Nucker 67 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) I would want them to do player for player trades (e.g.) 1. Boeser for a #3/4 RD (25 and under) 2. Pettersson for a Top Line C/W (23 and under) 3. Horvat for a Top 6C or D (25 and under) 4. Myers+ for a Top 4 D (25 and under) Getting strictly picks back may or may not work out, and the Canucks would need immediate help back, especially if they're shipping out one or more of these guys. Edited March 23, 2022 by NUCKER67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, VancouverHabitant said: Not a bad idea actually Yup; money puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: can not do pderformane clauses for his age. Fur Hand! Didn't your mother tell you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, khay said: This is so grossly incorrect. His 7.5 mil QO doesn't matter $hit to cup contenders. Any playoff team would love to acquire Brock for a low 1st, use him for the playoffs, and just let him walk if they don't like the QO. If you can acquire a 20+ goal rental for 25th or lower overall, you do it if you are at the cusp of winning it all. lol his 7.5mil doesn't matter?? what cup contender casually have 7.5mil sitting around for a guy that have an awful season and would love to spend 7.5mil of their salary hoping for a guy would bounce back? his 7.5mil only doesn't matter at the TDL.. are the canucks prepared to sign him to 7.5mil and hope he plays well till the TDL? probably not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: lol his 7.5mil doesn't matter?? what cup contender casually have 7.5mil sitting around for a guy that have an awful season and would love to spend 7.5mil of their salary hoping for a guy would bounce back? his 7.5mil only doesn't matter at the TDL.. are the canucks prepared to sign him to 7.5mil and hope he plays well till the TDL? probably not Brock as a pure rental (if we retained 50%) would have returned a lot from a top team. If we do Qualify him then we could trade him as a rental to a contender TDL 2023 and get a very good return too. I hadn't thought of trading Brock to a contender as a pure TDL rental and retaining 50%. I think that's our best way to get a good return on him. I'm all in on trading Brock TDL 2023 at 50% retained. Granted the first would be 24 - 32 but it's still a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: I said sign him for 5.5-6, but personally I’d rather trade him. I just don’t see his value. Id rather see a sniper who can skate. If the winger is going to be that slow, he better be huge, and a real mean SOB. Personally, I’m done with the whole drafting for character shtick. Nice guys finish last. Let’s get some big, mean, greasy pieces of trash on our team that want to win no matter what. I also want to see a savage with a point shot. Break a couple shin bones and people won’t want to block your shots. Instead, we have a couple guys tossing muffins from the point and everyone knows it. Quoted it cuz I wish I had typed it. I'd like to adjust it a bit to a more modern meathook, if you would allow me: A real mean SOB who skates faster than Ben Johnson runs on roids. Come to think of it; I'd pay top dollar for beasts; enough of this namby-pamby look'n at the refs to save you bs, etc. The guys who should be earning the top dollar on our team should be the Cam Neelys of the modern NHL. Guys like Miller and Bo, but also some serious gate-crashers who look forward to you objecting to their transgressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Alflives said: Brock as a pure rental (if we retained 50%) would have returned a lot from a top team. If we do Qualify him then we could trade him as a rental to a contender TDL 2023 and get a very good return too. I hadn't thought of trading Brock to a contender as a pure TDL rental and retaining 50%. I think that's our best way to get a good return on him. I'm all in on trading Brock TDL 2023 at 50% retained. Granted the first would be 24 - 32 but it's still a first. lol you are banking on him bouncing back if he has another season or regress u ain't getting anything close to a 1st for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: lol you are banking on him bouncing back if he has another season or regress u ain't getting anything close to a 1st for him ....and if he has a career year you are still in a bind Are you banking he's got it or that he played for a contract ? Nothing will be easy and will be more of a complicated gamble they make (with a dollar in mind or trade deciding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 maybe sign and trade. we still need a top 4 right defense. apparently canucks and nyr were in talks for multi player trades but nyr balked at someone canucks wanted and canucks wouldn't budge from their ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, smithers joe said: maybe sign and trade. we still need a top 4 right defense. apparently canucks and nyr were in talks for multi player trades but nyr balked at someone canucks wanted and canucks wouldn't budge from their ask. Yeah-But. If we sign him for too much, we won't get much in a trade; best it is a low ball contract. (I do not want to retain, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: lol you are banking on him bouncing back if he has another season or regress u ain't getting anything close to a 1st for him As a rental (50% retained) Brock will definitely get a first 2023 TDL. We should have done that this TDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I've read that a QO can be taken to arbitration. Not sure how it works, but if so, I would think Brock would lose. Maybe someone else can explain how this works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: I would want them to do player for player trades (e.g.) 1. Boeser for a #3/4 RD (25 and under) 2. Pettersson for a Top Line C/W (23 and under) 3. Horvat for a Top 6C or D (25 and under) 4. Myers+ for a Top 4 D (25 and under) Getting strictly picks back may or may not work out, and the Canucks would need immediate help back, especially if they're shipping out one or more of these guys. Thank god no one will ever ask you to gm a team. Stick to fantasy hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefcake Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 The core of this team has to change, and change starts with trading Brock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I was impressed by Allvin's discipline in dealing with Motte. They wanted to keep him but not at the price that he wanted. I heard that it was double his present salary which is essentially $2.5. Boeser is another good player but not at his QO (7.5). He's barely worth his AAV (5.8) imo. I have a sinking feeling that Brock is on his way out (and so is Miller) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuck1991 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Jester13 said: Try to lock him in long term for 5.5-6 and then see him have a great offseason and comeback healthy, quicker, and playing above his pay grade. Win. yea and mayb set him up with BOs skating coach...come on people boeser is not getting any faster, stop pretending that he is an elite goal scorer! Dude is top 9 on a loaded team. Never scored 30 goals and people here want to give him 5m +. LMAO Trade him please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedalus Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I voted to trade him. This may be an unpopular opinion but I think he is overvalued within the Canucks organization. So we’ll most likely not get exactly what we want for him. The sooner we get rid of him, the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, Alflives said: As a rental (50% retained) Brock will definitely get a first 2023 TDL. We should have done that this TDL. No retentions. No wasting our future. Lo ball him and if he signs, it is without clauses, and ship him out if he doesn't show in this run up to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuck1991 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 hours ago, JayDangles said: Someone stop me if I'm wrong.... but we have to wait until end of season to trade him, at which point he has no contract. So how can we even trade him? Other option is we sign him, then we trade him.... but if we sign him to a reasonable contract then we would likely keep him... So my understanding is either we lose him for nothing, or we sign him for cheap, or we sign him for his QO... am I missing something?. we can trade the rights of RFA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupIsComing Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I picked sign him to longterm 6.5-7.0 Million. Then TRADE him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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