[PGT] Ottawa Senators at Vancouver Canucks | Apr. 19, 2022

[CanucksJay]

9 minutes ago, Jayinblack said:

What was especially hard to watch was the way they laid back on their heels for the first 5-8 min of the 2nd and 3rd periods.

I get they were tired and due for a let down, but once again that sit back and let the game come to mentality gave Ottawa a lot of life.

I think 2 goals in 10 shots gave them false confidence. The followup shifts were still good effort but they lost that feeling of desperation. It looked like they were coached to continue play hard and not let up rather than feeling that desperation all throughout 60 min. 

 

 

[Beary Sweet]

Looks like we’re cheering for both Vegas and Dallas to lose tonight. Go Caps and Coilers

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[CanucksJay]

1 hour ago, mikeyman109 said:

Have you watched Petan play this season? silly to focus on one point in the game for sure but its not crazy to ask why when you do have better options on the bench

I heard Shorty say numerous times yesterday "Petan fails to clear the puck" 

The guy is a poor man's Reid Boucher. 

[RU SERIOUS]

13 hours ago, Devron said:

Nic Petan 

 

13 hours ago, 250Integra said:

Dries in OT? Petan in shootout? Yikes 

 

13 hours ago, Qwags said:

Why no Podkolzin in OT or shootout?

 

13 hours ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said:

I know. I said WTF out loud and woke up my kid. 

 

13 hours ago, guntrix said:

Putting Petan on a penalty shot to make or break the season is criminal from Boudreau. 

 

13 hours ago, Rackdawg said:

I thought same..

 

13 hours ago, Devron said:

Hughes, Podkolzin, OEL? Petan frickin Petan. Unbelievable 

 

13 hours ago, Coconuts said:

#FreePodz

 

13 hours ago, DeNiro said:

I seriously don’t get it…

 

Is it just a thing with every coach to keep a favourite player around that sucks?

 

Why the hell would Petan be shooting before Podz? He’ll even Richardson should be ahead of him!

 

13 hours ago, kurtis said:

Bruce there he goes... Brock, Petty and PEDAN!!!!!

 

13 hours ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

What’s Boudreau issue with putting Podz in overtime or the shootout. Makes no sense. Hmm let’s put Dries out and Petan. Just idiotic.

 

13 hours ago, the_impersonator13 said:

Where was the Moscow Mule?

 

13 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:

Nic Petan?  That's going to cost Bruce his job. No playoffs for you!!

 

13 hours ago, iceman64 said:

Omg Bruce, Petan over Podz? Wtf? I'd have put Podz before Garland even the way he's playing.. 

 

13 hours ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

Ya, Podz has been scoring like crazy but let’s put out Dries and Petan who have had one goal between them. Dumb

 

13 hours ago, Drive-By Body Pierce said:

 

 

13 hours ago, Filthymitts32 said:

Very poor player usage. Why is dries out there in ot, and not podz. Why is petan in the shootout lineup. Gave away a point they desperately needed and frankly, should have easily secured. It's Ottawa... 

 

13 hours ago, Muttley said:

Agree with many others here. Podkolzin was an absolute natural to be shooting after the initial three. Don't get it. 

 

13 hours ago, Mustard Tiger said:

What a way to potentially put the cap on the season. Start with horrible coaching decisions and finish with them as well. feels bad

 

13 hours ago, Rindiculous said:

The only thing I hate about Boudreau is his post regulation usage.  It's god &^@#ing awful.  Green was great at those.  Can we have Green post regulation and Boudreau the rest?

 

13 hours ago, Locke Lamora said:

Putting Petan, and even Garland, in the shootout over Podz and his laser wrist shot has to be Boudreau’s biggest blunder this season.

 

I’m gonna guess, if the media has the stones to ask him about it, that Bruce will say he didn’t want to put the kid into that kind of pressure cooker. To that I would say what a load of BS.

 

13 hours ago, amplified0ne said:

When they cut to Allvin it look like he shook his head in disbelief when he saw it was Petan up next 

 

13 hours ago, Alflives said:

That could be the signal that Bruce “There it is” will not be back.  Big changes coming if Bruce isn’t back.  

 

13 hours ago, Stech said:

How dare you bring sensible reactions into this thread

 

13 hours ago, DarthMelvin said:

Abby shoot outs don't count lol for real hahaa

 

And if he performed the way he did in tonight's shoot out.. then the skill level in that league is low. 

 

13 hours ago, CanuckinEdm said:

I let like 6 guys shoot before him lol. 

 

13 hours ago, EddieVedder said:

How do you not put podz in ot or shootout.  Makes zero sense

 

13 hours ago, Iron Man said:

You'd think after he's put on PP1, that they've put a bit more trust in his game.

 

13 hours ago, AlphaNuck said:

Alex burrows for shoot out coach 

 

13 hours ago, Locke Lamora said:

Lol. Somewhat predictably the Boudreau-loving Vancouver media didn’t ask Bruce about his shootout player selection.

 

13 hours ago, goog16 said:

This OT shootout loss totally on coaches tonight...Petan has 1 assist all season,WTF is he even on the ice for a shootout???

Quinn Hughes and Podkolzin were no brainer decisions over him!!! Hell,Dickinson would have been better!!!

 

11 hours ago, buddhahoodlum said:

Putting out Petan for the shootout is Travis Green-level coaching. SMH.

 

10 hours ago, RolexSub said:

I still don’t get why Petan is playing and can’t believe he was one of the shooters during shootout. Of all shooters coach Bruce picks him. What does he see in this dude. 

 

3 hours ago, grandmaster said:

Petan should not be playing in the NHL, never mind if he should be in the shootout. Bad call by BB

 

3 hours ago, rekker said:

Yip. Pods should of had the chance. 

 

2 hours ago, BureBurrito said:

Nic Petan....

 

The strategy used during 3 on 3 (Miller he's either stellar, or a complete buffoon with the puck during 3 on 3)

 

See you next season. Let's drop a couple spots to get a better draft pick at this point and play the young kids please.

 

1 hour ago, mikeyman109 said:

Have you watched Petan play this season? silly to focus on one point in the game for sure but its not crazy to ask why when you do have better options on the bench

 

1 hour ago, Gawdzukes said:

I've only missed two games this year. I guess unlike you I assume BB wanted to win the game and picked his best option. You seem to think he was busy ordering pizza for after the game or something and put Petan in by mistake, or he mixed up Petan with someone else, or just picked a guy at random. Doesn't really fly with me but this is CDC so 

HEY BRUCE;   "THERE IT IS !   

 

CANUCKS NATION HAS SPOKEN and we can't all be wrong!

[-DLC-]

3 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

again who cares if you beat the good/great teams if you are just going to follow it up by losing to bad teams? you can't expect to be a consisntent playoff team if you are going to have 10+ lost every season to non playoff teams which is every season since 2014. no one expects you to win all the games against bad team.. but having 10+ lost every season and playoff is your goal? 

I think you missed the point (completely).

 

Let me use your wording:  "again who cares if you lose to the bad teams if you beat the good teams". Or: a win is a win and a loss is a loss regardless of if it's versus a good or bad team.

 

You don't seem to be asking for consistency, you seem to be asking for perfection.

[Strawbone]

16 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HEY BRUCE;   "THERE IT IS !   

 

CANUCKS NATION HAS SPOKEN and we can't all be wrong!

OK you put some serious effort in to collecting all those quotes. Nice work!

[Devron]

1 minute ago, Strawbone said:

OK you put some serious effort in to collecting all those quotes. Nice work!

I don’t even know how he did that. Haha 

[Alflives]

15 minutes ago, -DLC- said:

I think you missed the point (completely).

 

Let me use your wording:  "again who care if you lose to the bad teams if you beat the good teams". Translation: a win is a win and a loss is a loss regardless of if it's versus a good or bad team.

 

You don't seem to be asking for consistency, you seem to be asking for perfection.

I think some fans (many?) want JR/Allvin to build a consistent playoff team.  Currently we have a bublle team, at best.  To get to be a consistent playoff team (for a prolonged period of time) there needs to be big changes.  

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, Strawbone said:

OK you put some serious effort in to collecting all those quotes. Nice work!

@RU SERIOUS put in more effort into that one post than the Canucks did in their entire game last night.  

[-DLC-]

7 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I think some fans (many?) want JR/Allvin to build a consistent playoff team.  Currently we have a bublle team, at best.  To get to be a consistent playoff team (for a prolonged period of time) there needs to be big changes.  

I think it's tough to assess at this point.

 

I mean, Green's team or Bruce's team? 

 

Currently we've been on a tear then our captain got hurt. I do agree that in those situations you have to have a solid plan b. But people want to ignore what we did do in the bubble and under Bruce and use the negative stuff only in their assessment. 

 

I don't think this team is as far off as some think they are and they were just really starting to give us a good picture of what they are. Confidence is huge and they had none under Green at the end of his run. 

 

Penciling new guys in doesn't guarantee anything...because chemistry matters.  This team's starting to develop some and know where the other guys will be on the ice and how they think. It's starting to click. Building a consistent team also has to allow for them to do so.

[Petey40]

48 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

There is a good chance Fleury starts in net as well.

 

 

I’m not even worried, easy win. 

[Toyotasfan]

After losses to Detroit , Buffalo, and now Ottawa, it seems the Canucks are their best when the the other team dictates play and the Canucks cause turnovers. When the opposition is less skilled and the Canucks have to dictate play seems to be where they run into trouble.

[Alflives]

5 minutes ago, -DLC- said:

I think it's tough to assess at this point.

 

I mean, Green's team or Bruce's team? 

 

Currently we've been on a tear then our captain got hurt. I do agree that in those situations you have to have a solid plan b. But people want to ignore what we did do in the bubble and under Bruce and use the negative stuff only in their assessment. 

 

I don't think this team is as far off as some think they are and they were just really starting to give us a good picture of what they are. Confidence is huge and they had none under Green at the end of his run. 

 

Penciling new guys in doesn't guarantee anything...because chemistry matters.  This team's starting to develop some and know where the other guys will be on the ice and how they think. It's starting to click. Building a consistent team also has to allow for them to do so.

I agree that we are close.  But our best player (Miller) will be 30 starting his next contract.  Are we close enough now to sign MIller to the contract he will deserve?  Will his decline in play (due to age) be offset by younger players coming up in other parts of the club? 

Or do we continue down the current path where we need a year end miracle to get into the playoffs?  

Winning or losing to Ottawa should be a moot point at this late date because we should be set as a playoff team.  

 

[mikeyman109]

2 hours ago, Gawdzukes said:

I've only missed two games this year. I guess unlike you I assume BB wanted to win the game and picked his best option. You seem to think he was busy ordering pizza for after the game or something and put Petan in by mistake, or he mixed up Petan with someone else, or just picked a guy at random. Doesn't really fly with me but this is CDC so 

I havent missed any games this season all anyone is saying is they havent seen from Petan what BB must have seen because of the players on that bench last night he would probably be the last one in my list. I might have let Demko have a shot before him. I think Demko may have more points than him as well.

Doesnt really fly with me that coaches never make mistakes or that someone will defend them.

Marc Crawford made a lot of good decisions as a coach also but leaving Gretzky out of the shootout in Nagano was not a good one.

Boudreau could have picked Hughes, OEL, Richardson, Dickenson but went with leading scorer Petan he of the hefty contract deserving one assist this season. If you are only going to play him 9 minutes last night he wasnt really a threat to score was he?

[Putgolzin]

1 hour ago, Alflives said:

The "Mighty" Quinn to Jersey for a HUGE haul?  Fill all the holes in one move.

Except for the Quinn Hughes hole.

[RU SERIOUS]

30 minutes ago, Strawbone said:

OK you put some serious effort in to collecting all those quotes. Nice work!

2 cups of coffee, a sandwich, three gummie bears and a toothpick (chewed to bits).   Phew............!

[Strawbone]

26 minutes ago, Alflives said:

@RU SERIOUS put in more effort into that one post than the Canucks did in their entire game last night.  

I think the boys were trying their darnedest last night, but just ran out of stream. It was more a problem of execution than effort. Playing elimination games for a month straight has to get tiring. 

[DrJockitch]

8 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I agree that we are close.  But our best player (Miller) will be 30 starting his next contract.  Are we close enough now to sign MIller to the contract he will deserve?  Will his decline in play (due to age) be offset by younger players coming up in other parts of the club? 

Or do we continue down the current path where we need a year end miracle to get into the playoffs?  

Winning or losing to Ottawa should be a moot point at this late date because we should be set as a playoff team.  

 

The Avs are close, Florida is close we aren’t close to being a consistent contender for the Stanley cup. 
We fall squarely into the contender for the playoffs and hope Demko gets hot at the right moment category. 
The Leafs spent decades there before finally deciding to tank and are back there again because they cut bait on the rebuild too quickly and built an imbalanced roster, that being said they are closer than us. 
I get we got hot once Bruce came over but again and again this year we have worked our way up to the threshold to fall flat on our faces against bad teams.  Maybe a miracle will happen and we will still get in Playoffs which is an amazing testament to the will of this team but realistically we are not built for a deep playoff run.  With Demko anything is possible but that is not a plan to build a consistent contender. 

[-DLC-]

13 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I agree that we are close.  But our best player (Miller) will be 30 starting his next contract.  Are we close enough now to sign MIller to the contract he will deserve?  Will his decline in play (due to age) be offset by younger players coming up in other parts of the club? 

Or do we continue down the current path where we need a year end miracle to get into the playoffs?  

Winning or losing to Ottawa should be a moot point at this late date because we should be set as a playoff team.  

 

Again, you have to consider that they WOULD be in a playoff spot without the horrible start and Green's failure to adjust.

 

The team ran out of gas last night, plain and simple. They played extremely hard for 5 periods in a row and it's sad because I feel the piss poor game management/reffing really helped to play into Ottawa's hands by letting things go in the 3rd. It was a clear momentum shift and Ottawa completely took over. After Brady cried to the refs for 20 minutes they basically put their whistles away and allowed him to do whatever. Free wheeling. 

 

Year end miracle is an opinion and worded to make it seem more desperate than it really is. I mean, if we are "close" then we don't need miracles because that's on a larger scale.