R3aL Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 41 minutes ago, Crimson-JH said: I believe he is still grieving about his late father and it is still difficult to overcome that. Which is why he isn't as motivated as before the last post season. For some people it take longer to heal from a tough loss. Like Fleury for example, he wasn't doing well during one of his season due to loss of his dad too, and it does show in his performance. Hockey players are still human being, it is easy for fans to overlook that. I’m not overlooking anything. I’m a supportive fan of boeser as a player and as a person. I’ve defended him consistently throughout the boards and verbally in person to many people. loss is a part of life that we all experience. I understand grieving too and that it can even alter your brain chemistry. but this is his career and he’s paid an immense amount of money. The kind of money the sedins EARNED with their blood and sweat. brock also lost his best friend as a kid and it didn’t stop him from performing and getting drafted to the NHL. I don’t think that’s what’s happening any more. I have a problem trusting his physical health. I do not think he will be able to maintain the level of health required for him to be effective in the NHL long term. I could be wrong. But it’s hard to see / feel otherwise right now. i want so bad to see the best version of Brock where he’s engaged in play, making space for his shot, getting his shot off, scoring from distance, winning board battles, competing and fighting for pucks in our end and not just looking like a passenger or observer on the ice. I want more for Brock. When Markstrom lost his dad he was very professional and honestly I think sport / work / exercise helps you move through grief. I think his hand his back his injuries his compromised conditioning / speed from constant training breaks at unfortunate timing are what’s impacting him the most. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Per Elliotte Friedman on HNIC tonight: the Canucks have given permission to Brock Boeser’s management to discuss trade opportunities with other teams. HUGE news if true. Edited December 4, 2022 by RWJC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, RWJC said: Per Elliotte Friedman on HNIC tonight: the Canucks have given permission to Brock Boeser’s management to discuss trade opportunities with other teams. HUGE news if true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, RWJC said: Per Elliotte Friedman on HNIC tonight: the Canucks have given permission to Brock Boeser’s management to discuss trade opportunities with other teams. HUGE news if true. Isn't that Alvin's job? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doxm Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Shayster007 said: Isn't that Alvin's job? Yes and no. Boeser wants out - he can help find a group that wants him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KingRaj91 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 His values pretty low right now, I'd keep him. 3 years left, trade him when hes on a hot streak, not like we're really going anywhere anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doxm said: Yes and no. Boeser wants out - he can help find a group that wants him. Usually if the agent gets involved that means the club has been trying to trade the player but there aren’t any takers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 guy clearly needs a.fresh start. too bad. will likely be the first of a few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I will say, I think anyone expecting us to free up a significant chunk of cap by moving Boeser is probably out to lunch. I'd anticipate a larger cap hit coming back. Only four teams currently have the cap to absorb his entire contract in Chicago, Arizona, Anaheim, and Buffalo and none of them need a goal scorer who hasn't been scoring at that cap hit. Maybe Buffalo offers up Olofsson who expires after next season and says take it or leave it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Do we see the oft-bandied about Dumba deal finally materialize? Dumba on last year of his deal. Maybe trade BB6 straight up now and then move Dumba at deadline? Sad to see Brock go, given all that he’s gone through, but this is an exciting option for this club and overdue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougieL Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Management group signs Miller to a big contract citing him as our number one center. Then he gets moved to wing before the contract even begins. Now this. Is this "vaunted" management group as "smart" as many seem to be assuming they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Wouldn't surprise me if he's asked for a trade tbh. This is probably fluff but there's lots out there. https://vancouverhockeyinsider.com/2022/12/02/gms-canucks-phone-lines-are-open-team-day-to-day/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, RWJC said: Do we see the oft-bandied about Dumba deal finally materialize? Dumba on last year of his deal. Maybe trade BB6 straight up now and then move Dumba at deadline? Sad to see Brock go, given all that he’s gone through, but this is an exciting option for this club and overdue. Dumba isn't gonna fix this defense, he's overrated on the basis of a single 50 point season he had 5 seasons ago. He's average height and on the lighter side. Not remotely interested in Dumba. Minnesota could use a scoring winger, if Boeser were one, but what they desperately need is a second top six center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Coconuts said: Dumba isn't gonna fix this defense, he's overrated on the basis of a single 50 point season he had 5 seasons ago. He's average height and on the lighter side. Not remotely interested in Dumba. Minnesota could use a scoring winger, if Boeser were one, but what they desperately need is a second top six center. Yeah, for sure, but I’m not taking on Dumba as permanent fixture for this club. I’m taking him on to facilitate moving Brock and his deal, and then using Dumba to facilitate another deal at the deadline which might fetch a really good return. Gotta really manage assets now and accumulate however possible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, RWJC said: Yeah, for sure, but I’m not taking on Dumba as permanent fixture for this club. I’m taking him on to facilitate moving Brock and his deal, and then using Dumba to facilitate another deal at the deadline which might fetch a really good return. Gotta really manage assets now and accumulate however possible. Hmm, a flip and flip, I see where you're at. That would be more palatable, and yeah, it'd free up cap. I wonder if it's a move Minnesota makes while in cap hell though, or if they'd even have interest in Boeser. They'll always come up because he's a Minny boy but I don't think that matters to the Wild tbh. They don't need to sell the fanbase hometown boys, Minnesota fans love their hockey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Dumba isn't gonna fix this defense, he's overrated on the basis of a single 50 point season he had 5 seasons ago. He's average height and on the lighter side. Not remotely interested in Dumba. Minnesota could use a scoring winger, if Boeser were one, but what they desperately need is a second top six center. 33 minutes ago, RWJC said: Yeah, for sure, but I’m not taking on Dumba as permanent fixture for this club. I’m taking him on to facilitate moving Brock and his deal, and then using Dumba to facilitate another deal at the deadline which might fetch a really good return. Gotta really manage assets now and accumulate however possible. Still , if we are able to keep Dumba and Bear into their next contracts, perhaps they each keep their level of performance, and sign for a little less becoming our 4 / 5 guys . Still leaving room for better, and prospects to rotate in. .. the trade option is still as good or better as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted December 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Still , if we are able to keep Dumba and Bear into their next contracts, perhaps they each keep their level of performance, and sign for a little less becoming our 4 / 5 guys . Still leaving room for better, and prospects to rotate in. .. the trade option is still as good or better as well. If we did bring back Dumba I'd just retain on him and flip him at the deadline tbh, I don't want him but he's still an RD on an expiring deal and if we retain 50% I'm sure we could sell him at 3M That way we get assets and his expiring cap space 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: If we did bring back Dumba I'd just retain on him and flip him at the deadline tbh, I don't want him but he's still an RD on an expiring deal and if we retain 50% I'm sure we could sell him at 3M That way we get assets and his expiring cap space Bingo Bango Luongo Edited December 4, 2022 by RWJC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Coconuts said: If we did bring back Dumba I'd just retain on him and flip him at the deadline tbh, I don't want him but he's still an RD on an expiring deal and if we retain 50% I'm sure we could sell him at 3M That way we get assets and his expiring cap space 18 minutes ago, RWJC said: Bingo Bango Luongo Well it seems Bill Guerin was interested in him just before the season, let’s hope that interest still exists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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