N4ZZY Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Pure961089 said: I think the Canucks management are fine with just letting this ride. And I’m kinda cool with it too. As long as we get something for him at the trade dead line, or we lose him for nothing. But in the mean time …HOLLA! Kuzmenko - JT. Miller - Boeser Garland - Pettersson - Mikheyev Hoglander - Horvat - Podkolzin Lockwood -Lazar - Pearson Never had this much depth of talent especially in the top 9 We cannot afford to lose Miller for nothing. We criticized Benning for losing players for nothing. They just walked away as free agents without getting anything for them leading up to the Trade Deadline. What would be different with this management group if they did the same thing with one of our largest assets? Miller needs to be moved before then. There’s so much variables if JT is still here during the season. What if he gets injured during the season? What if the team is in playoff contention? Do they trade JT at that time? The only way for this team to improve its backend is with Miller. Who else do they have that could bring back a good young player besides the core pieces like Petey, Hughes, Demko, etc. Those guys aren’t being traded. They are the current core to move this team forward, unless management thinks we’re in for another rebuild? But that’s not the sense that I’ve received with Rutherford and Allvin. Seems to me like they want to be competitive and they want to win this upcoming season and push for playoff contention. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Pure961089 said: Has an NHL team in recent history been BODIED like the Calgary Flames. Johnny Hockey basically told the press Anywhere would be better than Calgary. Oooffff. Brings joy to my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Pure961089 said: I think the Canucks management are fine with just letting this ride. And I’m kinda cool with it too. As long as we get something for him at the trade dead line, or we lose him for nothing. But in the mean time …HOLLA! Kuzmenko - JT. Miller - Boeser Garland - Pettersson - Mikheyev Hoglander - Horvat - Podkolzin Lockwood -Lazar - Pearson Never had this much depth of talent especially in the top 9 Is that group not over the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Is that group not over the cap? Technically yes. But they can get under the cap come opening day after putting Ferland on LTIR. Edited July 15, 2022 by DeNiro 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Pure961089 said: I think the Canucks management are fine with just letting this ride. And I’m kinda cool with it too. As long as we get something for him at the trade dead line, or we lose him for nothing. But in the mean time …HOLLA! Kuzmenko - JT. Miller - Boeser Garland - Pettersson - Mikheyev Hoglander - Horvat - Podkolzin Lockwood -Lazar - Pearson Never had this much depth of talent especially in the top 9 Who on the that top line is going to backcheck? I like horvat with hogz and podz tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Pure961089 said: I think the Canucks management are fine with just letting this ride. And I’m kinda cool with it too. As long as we get something for him at the trade dead line, or we lose him for nothing. But in the mean time …HOLLA! Kuzmenko - JT. Miller - Boeser Garland - Pettersson - Mikheyev Hoglander - Horvat - Podkolzin Lockwood -Lazar - Pearson Never had this much depth of talent especially in the top 9 If we keep this group around then I think Boudreau runs 3 lines again. And Petey and Mikheyev would be on separate lines as they are the two best defensive players out of the top 9 forwards. Mikheyev Miller Boeser Kuzmenko Pettersson Podkolzin Pearson Horvat Garland Dickinson Lazar Lockwood Mikheyev needs to play with Miller to cover for him defensively. I like Petey with the Russians as Kuzmenko adds alot of skill to that line. Horvat would be the 3C with his buddy Pearson. There isn't any room for Hoglander and he's a waste on the 4th line. So he would be the odd man out. We'd have great depth. The problem is the defence. If we can flip Garland for Marino and then play Hoglander on the 3rd line that would give us some pretty good balance overall. Mikheyev Miller Boeser Kuzmenko Pettersson Podkolzin Pearson Horvat Hoglander Dickinson Lazar Lockwood Hughes Marino OEL Myers Rathbone Schenn Demko Martin That team would be good enough to make the playoffs, so then the problem becomes how do we trade Miller at the TDL when we are in a playoff spot? Would Aquilini sanction the trade? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If we keep this group around then I think Boudreau runs 3 lines again. And Petey and Mikheyev would be on separate lines as they are the two best defensive players out of the top 9 forwards. Mikheyev Miller Boeser Kuzmenko Pettersson Podkolzin Pearson Horvat Garland Dickinson Lazar Lockwood Mikheyev needs to play with Miller to cover for him defensively. I like Petey with the Russians as Kuzmenko adds alot of skill to that line. Horvat would be the 3C with his buddy Pearson. There isn't any room for Hoglander and he's a waste on the 4th line. So he would be the odd man out. We'd have great depth. The problem is the defence. If we can flip Garland for Marino and then play Hoglander on the 3rd line that would give us some pretty good balance overall. Mikheyev Miller Boeser Kuzmenko Pettersson Podkolzin Pearson Horvat Hoglander Dickinson Lazar Lockwood Hughes Marino OEL Myers Rathbone Schenn Demko Martin That team would be good enough to make the playoffs, so then the problem becomes how do we trade Miller at the TDL when we are in a playoff spot? Would Aquilini sanction the trade? That defense is soft af and is going to get wrecked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 minute ago, EddieVedder said: That defense is soft af and is going to get wrecked. I agree, but it's what we have now plus Marino. Unless there is a better trade option for Garland I don't see how we can improve the defence without trading Miller. So unless Miller is traded our defence won't get much better. Manson would have been the perfect partner for Hughes. Is there another Manson type out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCan2023 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Pure961089 said: The speed Mikheyev brings will open up so many more options for Pettersson. He will give Pettersson so much more time and space through his speed. Mikheyev will give no time for the opposing defence to react they’ll end up backing right up on top of their goalie. Mikheyev’s is dangerous not because of his points he scores, it’s his speed that opens up lanes for our creative players to create. If Bruce puts Mikheyev with Pettersson he’ll have a lot more time and space Let's hope this is correct. My concern is is tenaciousness and his ability to make those millisecond "smart" plays instinctively. Yanik Hanson had the speed. heart, but couldn't keep up with the big time out of your seat rushes you see with the big boys. Mason Raymond was even faster, but lacked even more. Speed is non negotiable in todays game, and your best chance to make the bigs, but if your brain and hands can't keep up with it, you'll be a valuable 3rd-4th liner on numerous teams for around 8 years... I'd still take that life anytime lol.. My hope is something semi close to another Dylan Larkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alienhuggyflow Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Pure961089 said: I think the Canucks management are fine with just letting this ride. And I’m kinda cool with it too. As long as we get something for him at the trade dead line, or we lose him for nothing. But in the mean time …HOLLA! Kuzmenko - JT. Miller - Boeser Garland - Pettersson - Mikheyev Hoglander - Horvat - Podkolzin Lockwood -Lazar - Pearson Never had this much depth of talent especially in the top 9 3 hours ago, Pure961089 said: I think the Canucks management are fine with just letting this ride. And I’m kinda cool with it too. As long as we get something for him at the trade dead line, or we lose him for nothing. But in the mean time …HOLLA! Kuzmenko - JT. Miller - Boeser Garland - Pettersson - Mikheyev Hoglander - Horvat - Podkolzin Lockwood -Lazar - Pearson Never had this much depth of talent especially in the top 9 This should be one of our better forward groups we've iced since 2011, liking that 4th line. I think the real wildcard is, is this the season Petey and Brock put it all together and truly breakout for a full 82? I fully expect JT to not only remain but continue to excel and we saw in games where both Petey and JT were at their best teams really didn't have an answer. The D has questions no doubt but hopefully a full season of TD and Rathbone help along with better luck health wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Alflives said: If Miller is with us next season I think we run with our three bog boppers down the middle. Mikheyev Miller Garland Pods, Petey, Boeser Pearson, Bo, Kuzmenko Joshua, Lazar, Hogs Ya Alvin has said this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 52 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I agree, but it's what we have now plus Marino. Unless there is a better trade option for Garland I don't see how we can improve the defence without trading Miller. So unless Miller is traded our defence won't get much better. Manson would have been the perfect partner for Hughes. Is there another Manson type out there? Get Hoglander and Dickinson out for a D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 23 hours ago, lmm said: Pearson is like Schenn penciled in on the 4th line or 4th D pairing until play starts then moves up the line up because they bring what others can't I like Pearson on the team, but if I'm honest, there are other players who can do what he can at a lower price. The fact that he can play up and down the lineup is really helpful. I hope he sticks.....but then I also hope Miller signs a $7M/yr x 5 year contract (ha!). Dreaming I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCan2023 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, NHL'er said: Get Hoglander and Dickinson out for a D. What NHL team is going to give up a decent defenceman for those Two? They barely can, or will make our team this year. Better up the ante X10 if you even want a sniff at a top 4 dman. Most teams only have 3 max top quality D on there opening line up, if one gets injured they have 2. Moral of the story, a few solid D men are available, but not available for exchange with below average players that are uncertain to play on a mid average team... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, VanCan2023 said: What NHL team is going to give up a decent defenceman for those Two? They barely can, or will make our team this year. Better up the ante X10 if you even want a sniff at a top 4 dman. Most teams only have 3 max top quality D on there opening line up, if one gets injured they have 2. Moral of the story, a few solid D men are available, but not available for exchange with below average players that are uncertain to play on a mid average team... Unless traded, I can't see Hogz not making this team. He better bring some consistent tenacity though or he's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: Unless traded, I can't see Hogz not making this team. He better bring some consistent tenacity though or he's out. Is he waiver eligible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: Is he waiver eligible? 1 year left I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCan2023 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: Unless traded, I can't see Hogz not making this team. He better bring some consistent tenacity though or he's out. Considering his tenure and experience, along with your uncertainty in his unproven consistency to stay relevant = a below average player. Not saying he always will be, I hope and pray he makes me eat humble pie and wins the Conn Smythe. However up and until then my statement remains even pee-wee herman wouldn't agree to a Hog and Dicky for a decencent dman trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: If we keep this group around then I think Boudreau runs 3 lines again. And Petey and Mikheyev would be on separate lines as they are the two best defensive players out of the top 9 forwards. Mikheyev Miller Boeser Kuzmenko Pettersson Podkolzin Pearson Horvat Garland Dickinson Lazar Lockwood Mikheyev needs to play with Miller to cover for him defensively. I like Petey with the Russians as Kuzmenko adds alot of skill to that line. Horvat would be the 3C with his buddy Pearson. There isn't any room for Hoglander and he's a waste on the 4th line. So he would be the odd man out. We'd have great depth. The problem is the defence. If we can flip Garland for Marino and then play Hoglander on the 3rd line that would give us some pretty good balance overall. Mikheyev Miller Boeser Kuzmenko Pettersson Podkolzin Pearson Horvat Hoglander Dickinson Lazar Lockwood Hughes Marino OEL Myers Rathbone Schenn Demko Martin That team would be good enough to make the playoffs, so then the problem becomes how do we trade Miller at the TDL when we are in a playoff spot? Would Aquilini sanction the trade? If we end up keeping Miller the I like your lineup more. He will create a lot of scoring chances for Petey on the PK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, NHL97OneTimer said: Unless traded, I can't see Hogz not making this team. He better bring some consistent tenacity though or he's out. I think if he isn’t traded he‘s gonna be the first call up from Abby since he still has a year waiver exemption left I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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