Ghostsof1915 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 On 8/29/2023 at 2:27 PM, -Vintage Canuck- said: So is Mik going to be not playing until like the first quarter? I don't want him rushing himself and reinjuring his knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 So Mik's new MGMT's version of Sutter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 On 8/27/2023 at 2:13 AM, -AJ- said: He was on about a 40-point pace in his first year with us, but really struggled after that. What were his stats before and after? I don’t recall. I just know he struggled and that was probably after the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: So is Mik going to be not playing until like the first quarter? I don't want him rushing himself and reinjuring his knee. I wonder if he can get a conditioning stint in Abbotsford before he is play to play for Vancouver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Citizen Erased said: What were his stats before and after? I don’t recall. I just know he struggled and that was probably after the injury. Year one was before the injury. Two and three were after. 39-point pace in year one (highest pace of his career) and a combined average of an 18-point pace over the next two seasons. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, -AJ- said: Year one was before the injury. Two and three were after. 39-point pace in year one (highest pace of his career) and a combined average of an 18-point pace over the next two seasons. Who's stats are those ? , not Mikheyev's, Ilya Mikheyev Career Stats Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PPG PPP SHG SHP GWG OTG S S% FO% Career - 192 49 51 100 31 38 5 8 5 6 9 0 443 11.1 2019-2020 TOR 39 8 15 23 7 4 0 0 1 1 1 0 98 8.2 75 2020-2021 TOR 54 7 10 17 5 6 0 0 0 1 2 0 107 6.5 100 2021-2022 TOR 53 21 11 32 16 26 4 5 4 4 4 0 147 14.3 0 2022-2023 VAN 46 13 15 28 3 2 1 3 0 0 2 0 91 14.29 20 Edited September 3, 2023 by vancan2233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, vancan2233 said: Who's stats are those ? , not Mikheyev's, Ilya Mikheyev Career Stats Season Team GP G A P +/- PIM PPG PPP SHG SHP GWG OTG S S% FO% Career - 192 49 51 100 31 38 5 8 5 6 9 0 443 11.1 2019-2020 TOR 39 8 15 23 7 4 0 0 1 1 1 0 98 8.2 75 2020-2021 TOR 54 7 10 17 5 6 0 0 0 1 2 0 107 6.5 100 2021-2022 TOR 53 21 11 32 16 26 4 5 4 4 4 0 147 14.3 0 2022-2023 VAN 46 13 15 28 3 2 1 3 0 0 2 0 91 14.29 20 Roussel’s stats from his time with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Citizen Erased said: Roussel’s stats from his time with the Canucks. Ok, I missed something. How did Roussel's become apart of the Mikheyev's discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, vancan2233 said: Ok, I missed something. How did Roussel's become apart of the Mikheyev's discussion? He was brought up on the previous page because he had the same injury as Mikheyev and Roussel stated it took him a year and a half to feel normal again after his surgery. That’s why his offensive production suffered after the surgery. There were concerns the same thing may happen with Mikheyev. Edited September 3, 2023 by Citizen Erased 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 5 hours ago, vancan2233 said: Ok, I missed something. How did Roussel's become apart of the Mikheyev's discussion? Probably related to injury discussions. We allow discussions to wander a little off topic as long as it doesn't last too long and totally take over the thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Sounds like management dropped the ball in regards to dealing with injuries again if Mikheyev is not ready to play at 100% by the start of the season. It would have been optically terrible to announce Mik would have to undergo surgery right after training camp last season, right after we got him. But it sounds like it would have been the correct and prudent move in the long run. He may have then even been able to test it out for a few games at the end of last season. And more importantly be able to work out more aggressively this summer to be ready for this season. Hindsight is 20/20 of course. But if its true a player needs at least one full year to recover properly from this kind of surgery, ie. Roussel, then management has shot itself in the skate. If he's questionable for training camp, that does not bode well for any thought that he will be the player when he signed here to start in October this year. And may take most of the season to catch up, maybe taking him off the top six. I hope not. I do not get why any team would delay a needed surgery to a top six player, unless they were regarded to be a team on the cusp of a Stanley Cup contending season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gurn Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 6:49 PM, aliboy said: yea-wanted to be ready for this year-so kept playing till Jan of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Would it really be so horrible if Mik wasn't ready to play and stayed on LTIR until sometime during the season? It's not as if we will need to be using Megna or Chaput to fill in for him. We have an abundance of wingers, some young, promising, deserving a shot and who are worth watching. Injury depth is part of the game. Anybody remember a dozen or so years ago when it seemed to be a given at the start of the season that Bieksa was tradebait because we had too many solid/expensive #2/3 Dmen? But through the magic of LTIR, when the playoffs rolled around we still had: Salo, Hamhuis, Edler, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Tanev, Ballard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Would it really be so horrible if Mik wasn't ready to play and stayed on LTIR until sometime during the season? It's not as if we will need to be using Megna or Chaput to fill in for him. We have an abundance of wingers, some young, promising, deserving a shot and who are worth watching. Injury depth is part of the game. Anybody remember a dozen or so years ago when it seemed to be a given at the start of the season that Bieksa was tradebait because we had too many solid/expensive #2/3 Dmen? But through the magic of LTIR, when the playoffs rolled around we still had: Salo, Hamhuis, Edler, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Tanev, Ballard... No, it wouldn’t be horrible, but I believe the team would be better with him in the lineup. It would not only give opportunities to younger players, but it will help management buy some time to make a better deal for one of their abundance of wingers and some cap relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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