Goal:thecup Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: To New Jersey: JT Miller Travis Dermott To Vancouver: Damon Severson Michael McLeod Kevin Bahl Why New Jersey does this? They have a glut of RHD now and cannot play all of them in their top 4. Hamilton and Marino are signed long term and will be their two top 4 RHD, plus they have Simon Nemec in the wings. Severson, like Miller, is a UFA next summer so he looks like the odd man out. Dermott gives them a good option for their 3rd pairing and can play either side. Why Vancouver does this? Severson will immediately step into the lineup on the top pairing with Quinn Hughes. He is a bonafide top 4 Dman, can play 25 minutes a night, can play the 2nd unit PP and is one of the better PK'ers in the league. He can also put up 45-50 points from the backend, which is another area of need for us. He is not the perfect partner for Hughes but he will immediately become our best RHD by a mile. McLeod is as fast as they come. He will be our new 3C. Him and Mikheyev will form an unstoppable PK pairing that will bring our PK to the top of the league. As well, he is one of the best faceoff men in the entire NHL, so he will allow Horvat to focus on scoring and being a 2C. McLeod hasn't developed his offensive game yet in the NHL and may never live up to his draft ranking. However, he will add much needed speed and will be our #1 faceoff man as well as be able to make our penalty kill one of the best in the league. Kevin Bahl is a beast and is a local boy. He and Rathbone can battle it out for the 3rd pairing LHD role. We can switch them up depending on the competition. Bahl hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential in the NHL. At 6'6" and 230+ pounds he can really help us to get much bigger and meaner on the back end. There you have it. This trade takes care of several needs. A top pairing RHD for Hughes, a 3C who is as fast as they come and is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL, and a 6'6" beast of a Dman who has untapped potential and is also a local boy who would love to come back home. Flame away... We should do everything we can to pry McLeod out of Jersey. He's what you need. He's what you're looking for. - Dan, BC Lions 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bruce Boudreau Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: To New Jersey: JT Miller Travis Dermott To Vancouver: Damon Severson Michael McLeod Kevin Bahl Why New Jersey does this? They have a glut of RHD now and cannot play all of them in their top 4. Hamilton and Marino are signed long term and will be their two top 4 RHD, plus they have Simon Nemec in the wings. Severson, like Miller, is a UFA next summer so he looks like the odd man out. Dermott gives them a good option for their 3rd pairing and can play either side. Why Vancouver does this? Severson will immediately step into the lineup on the top pairing with Quinn Hughes. He is a bonafide top 4 Dman, can play 25 minutes a night, can play the 2nd unit PP and is one of the better PK'ers in the league. He can also put up 45-50 points from the backend, which is another area of need for us. He is not the perfect partner for Hughes but he will immediately become our best RHD by a mile. McLeod is as fast as they come. He will be our new 3C. Him and Mikheyev will form an unstoppable PK pairing that will bring our PK to the top of the league. As well, he is one of the best faceoff men in the entire NHL, so he will allow Horvat to focus on scoring and being a 2C. McLeod hasn't developed his offensive game yet in the NHL and may never live up to his draft ranking. However, he will add much needed speed and will be our #1 faceoff man as well as be able to make our penalty kill one of the best in the league. Kevin Bahl is a beast and is a local boy. He and Rathbone can battle it out for the 3rd pairing LHD role. We can switch them up depending on the competition. Bahl hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential in the NHL. At 6'6" and 230+ pounds he can really help us to get much bigger and meaner on the back end. There you have it. This trade takes care of several needs. A top pairing RHD for Hughes, a 3C who is as fast as they come and is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL, and a 6'6" beast of a Dman who has untapped potential and is also a local boy who would love to come back home. Flame away... My counter proposal To CBJ: C JT Miller To VAN: C Alexandre Texier, RHD Corson Ceulemans, 2023 1st round pick 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Chip Kelly said: My counter proposal To CBJ: C JT Miller To VAN: C Alexandre Texier, RHD Corson Ceulemans, 2023 1st round pick A trade with CBJ also crossed my mind. Miller and Gaudreau on a line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: A trade with CBJ also crossed my mind. Miller and Gaudreau on a line. Columbus only have 2.7 million left and have Laine to sign at 7.8 million?? I think Miller trade will be with NJ Devils or NYR and maybe NYI ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 To NJ JT - playoff leader for a young team. Pearson (Stanley Cup exp) Rathbone To Van Sharangovic (offsets JTs goals) Severson- immediate defensive help. Bahl - prospect for prospect. We had a chance of 2OA bit that doesn't look like it's going to happen in any way shape or form. NJ will keep their draft picks. The longer we wait the more slippery it gets. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I was fixated on their 1st rounder, but I really like this trade. McLeod and Mikheyev on the 3rd line would be a pain to play against--speed for days. And McLeod might have untapped offensive potential. If we had a choice between Bahl and Mukhamadullin, I'd choose Mukhamadullin. But Bahl might fit our needs more. Hughes - Severson would be an amazing 1st pairing. I'd rather trade for Severson than sign Klingberg for sure. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Nave said: I was fixated on their 1st rounder, but I really like this trade. McLeod and Mikheyev on the 3rd line would be a pain to play against--speed for days. And McLeod might have untapped offensive potential. If we had a choice between Bahl and Mukhamadullin, I'd choose Mukhamadullin. But Bahl might fit our needs more. Hughes - Severson would be an amazing 1st pairing. I'd rather trade for Severson than sign Klingberg for sure. Sure if Severson provided at least adequate play in his own end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Myers = Severson as far as quality. He would not become our best RHD by a mile. Don't mind the proposal... I think we are giving up way too much value though, I would make New Jersey take on Ferland's LTIR contract too, to even things out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 5 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Myers = Severson as far as quality. He would not become our best RHD by a mile. Don't mind the proposal... I think we are giving up way too much value though, I would make New Jersey take on Ferland's LTIR contract too, to even things out a bit. Or Dickinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 6 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Myers = Severson as far as quality. He would not become our best RHD by a mile. Don't mind the proposal... I think we are giving up way too much value though, I would make New Jersey take on Ferland's LTIR contract too, to even things out a bit. Severson is better than Myers. He's younger, way better at carrying the puck, has a better shot, and the Devils had the 14th ranked PK largely because of him. Where was the Canucks' PK ranked? Oh yeah, 30th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 people really comparing Tyler Myers to Damon Severson in this thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 9:13 PM, wildcam said: Columbus only have 2.7 million left and have Laine to sign at 7.8 million?? I think Miller trade will be with NJ Devils or NYR and maybe NYI ?? I think Van can make it work with retained salary bury Dickinson, Poolman and Ferland on LTIR. Maybe ship Rathbone or Hoglander attached to Garland or Pearson in a separate move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 11:03 PM, Hairy Kneel said: To NJ JT - playoff leader for a young team. Pearson (Stanley Cup exp) Rathbone To Van Sharangovic (offsets JTs goals) Severson- immediate defensive help. Bahl - prospect for prospect. We had a chance of 2OA bit that doesn't look like it's going to happen in any way shape or form. NJ will keep their draft picks. The longer we wait the more slippery it gets. Sharangovic 24, 6'2 Gp 76--G 24 - 46 PTS - I like this player lots of upside 1 yr @ 2 million RFA next summer. Severson 27, 6'2, RD, - Very good player #2 D man for sure can play 21-25 mins would be great with Hughes.. Bahl 21 -6'6 LD-- could be #5 guy soon.. Giving up Rathbone I would want 3rd rounder added 2023 Really feel Rathbone will have a break out season..Future # 3 D man for sure , great skating and offensive talent..Has some grit .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, wildcam said: Sharangovic 24, 6'2 Gp 76--G 24 - 46 PTS - I like this player lots of upside 1 yr @ 2 million RFA next summer. Severson 27, 6'2, RD, - Very good player #2 D man for sure can play 21-25 mins would be great with Hughes.. Bahl 21 -6'6 LD-- could be #5 guy soon.. Giving up Rathbone I would want 3rd rounder added 2023 Really feel Rathbone will have a break out season..Future # 3 D man for sure , great skating and offensive talent..Has some grit .. Yup. Miller + Bone for Severson + Sharangovic + Bahl is a great trade for us. No third rounder (from them) needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Yup. Miller + Bone for Severson + Sharangovic + Bahl is a great trade for us. No third rounder (from them) needed. I really don't think NJ is parting with draft picks very easily. Otherwise the 2OA would have been in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 How many 1st round picks do we get back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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