Hairy Kneel Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Of 20 hits: 9 were from Schenn and Josh Of 13 blocks: 5 were from Bear On our bottom 6 and our bottom D, we have a lot of players that aren't getting involved physically. In our two wins with Burrz vs Sea and Pitts Burrz had 4 hits and 4 blocked shots Play more Burrz Edited November 4, 2022 by Hairy Kneel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, DeltaSwede said: Agree with this 100%. I can imagine Canucks management making a shortlist of prioritized players. A power ranking of sorts. I agree with the sentiment of 3 players being off the table and the rest are available (Demko, Quinn, Petey). Kuz though, making me think that number should be 4 and that his extension should be prioritized. Think the Canucks have a decent chance here to get a bridge deal and wait out an expiring Tyler Myers contract for example. I don't even mind them selling low on Boeser at this point, just to make sure there is enough wiggle room to keep Kuz and Horvat around and look to improve the defense. I posted in the off-season that the Canucks set themselves up for some auditions this year. Kuz has come in and showed that he can replace a top 6 forward plus we have Hoglander and Podkolzin on the roster. The musical chairs game is on, it really is. We need to move forwards out and so far into this audition period here, I don't think we would downgrade too much with the depth we have, guys are proving they are ready to step in and replace others. Agreed, play/keep the 25 or younger players and Kuz/Mikheyev and restock with the others. If handled correctly, mgmt could successfully remake this team at the TDL...let hope the team doesn't wiff like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Alienhuggyflow said: Ya Horvat has been on some kind of run the 25ish games. Our wonderful management have now created a worst case scenario, trade him for a poor return, or pay him way more now with his start and the fact it's looking like the cap is going up 4.2 million next season. Them offering 5.5 was an insult, 6.8-7 was always going to be what a team friendly 8 year deal would probably look like imo. Gotta figure that's about a million off. Teams going to have cap flexibility but with Kuzmenko looking like a star and the glaring need for a RHD, every dollar counts. Thought overall our D played well, we moved the puck better and the forwards did a much better job coming back.. 3rd had a few brain cramps but again goaltending and pK needs to get sorted out. It's actually ideal if we intend to trade Horvat. His stock keeps going up. I'm always wary of guys having career years just before their next deal is up. Wonder why the same effort/production wasn't there before... Edited November 4, 2022 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Mad Bro? Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Aaron Rome wasn't built in a day. No, it was about 20-30 minutes of naughty fun time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wai_lai416 Posted November 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, IBatch said: It's actually ideal if we intend to trade Horvat. His stock keeps going up. I'm always wary of guys having career years just before their next deal is up. Wonder why the same effort wasn't there before... nothing to do with effort, more to do with the opportunity.. Horvat was never afforded the offensive opportunity the other guys had in their career.. and now that he's put in more offensive situation? oh look he's starting to get result.. kinda like when Miller was first traded to the canucks.. he was given the opportunity.. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: nothing to do with effort, more to do with the opportunity.. Horvat was never afforded the offensive opportunity the other guys had in their career.. and now that he's put in more offensive situation? oh look he's starting to get result.. kinda like when Miller was first traded to the canucks.. he was given the opportunity.. Horvat has been a fixture on our PP for most of his career now. Last year he was given better wingers to work with, actually played with everyone but Miller. So wouldn't go that far. And most of his goals have been on the PP ... I'm not going to get too carried away (yet), maybe the team backed the wrong horse for sure, all i can say is at least he's showing he might earn his raise. Last year 6.5 was where the math wizards say he was at overall with his cap hit. If a team wants to offer him 8-9 then I would rather take the picks/prospects then do that wouldn't you? We just got through an era of that (waiting for UFAs to retire or waive) ... and at least they did something. Edit: I do agree he hasn't had a lot to work with up until last year 5 x 5 though, plus Brocks rookie season. Edited November 4, 2022 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBurrows14Yu Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: How about Burrows!? He had two straight hat tricks and then a two goal game! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, IBatch said: It's actually ideal if we intend to trade Horvat. His stock keeps going up. I'm always wary of guys having career years just before their next deal is up. Wonder why the same effort wasn't there before... If they trade horvat and keep miller the entire front office should be canned immediately 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 4 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said: We now only need to win 6 of the next 9 games to be at .500 at the 20 game mark - which is the unofficial benchmark for those hoping to sliver into the very last bottom wildcard spot. It will be a miracle on Ice if that happens but time will tell. We won on Dallas Eakins night. Not exactly a good benchmark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, stawns said: If they trade horvat and keep miller the entire front office should be canned immediately All i will say is there is a lot of hockey left. Horvat isn't lighting the lamp 5 x 5. He's feasting on the PP which was also red hot last year after Bruce arrived. All Bo is doing, is making a similar deal to Millers look more palatable. Before we get too inspired, let's see what it looks like in 2023 shall we? Scott Walker was the player of the week one year too, league wide. Edited November 4, 2022 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, AlexBurrows14Yu said: How about Burrows!? He had two straight hat tricks and then a two goal game! Burrows? Do we really need him? Hard to believe Bure isn't on that list either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, IBatch said: Horvat has been a fixture on our PP for most of his career now. Last year he was given better wingers to work with, actually played with everyone but Miller. So wouldn't go that far. And most of his goals have been on the PP ... I'm not going to get too carried away (yet), maybe the team backed the wrong horse for sure, all i can say is at least he's showing he might earn his raise. Last year 6.5 was where the math wizards say he was at overall with his cap hit. If a team wants to offer him 8-9 then I would rather take the picks/prospects then do that wouldn't you? We just got through an era of that (waiting for UFAs to retire or waive) ... and at least they did something. So what’s wrong with PP goals? The way you guys talk about it you would think more than half of his goals were on the PP when it’s not true. Look at the shorten 56 game season. Look at all the ppg leader. Majority of them scored more than 50% of their goals on the pp. so do we say well they are lucky they got most of their goals on the PP more than 50%. Stamko Kreider pavelski draistial + many more have almost 50% or more of their goals on the pp. mcdavid have half of his goal this year on the Pp.. last year he had better player.. aka he set a career high in goals? So better player better opportunity = more offensive production is that hard to comprehend? 13 of the 31 goals were PP he still scored 18 other goals in other situation? again I’m saying Horvat never had the same opportunity as miller. Not even close, but looks like when given the opportunity he can equally be as effective. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, stawns said: If they trade horvat and keep miller the entire front office should be canned immediately Agreed but what do they do though? Trade Miller or ... I don't see how they can afford both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Agreed but what do they do though? Trade Miller or ... I don't see how they can afford both. They can if they manage to pay off the escrow and the cap go up 4mil earlier than anticipated and they dump out some contracts prolly Pearson and possibly find a taker on boeser maybe with 1mil retention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Agreed but what do they do though? Trade Miller or ... I don't see how they can afford both. Absolutely trade Miller........and Boeser and probably Hughes while they're at it. Petey is up after next season and he'll be in the 9's. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Oh that didn’t look encouraging. W is a W. Is the the start of the run for 16OA we all know is coming? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: So what’s wrong with PP goals? The way you guys talk about it you would think more than half of his goals were on the PP when it’s not true. Look at the shorten 56 game season. Look at all the ppg leader. Majority of them scored more than 50% of their goals on the pp. so do we say well they are lucky they got most of their goals on the PP more than 50%. Stamko Kreider pavelski draistial + many more have almost 50% or more of their goals on the pp. mcdavid have half of his goal this year on the Pp.. last year he had better player.. aka he set a career high in goals? So better player better opportunity = more offensive production is that hard to comprehend? 13 of the 31 goals were PP he still scored 18 other goals in other situation? again I’m saying Horvat never had the same opportunity as miller. Not even close, but looks like when given the opportunity he can equally be as effective. Last year Horvat came alive the last 30 or so games yes. I don't expect you to read all my posts, but i get awfully worried when a guys contract is up, and then out of nowhere the production spikes. Compare Miller as a case study. Both coaches used him all over the place. Bruce barely tried the Lotto line, because that was one and done. Green kept trying it and it wouldn't work. Miller was on 3 of the 4 most effective lines last year, and came into the season 40 plus points ahead of second place (EP) in 202 games since he arrived, 217 points. Horvat scoring on the PP IS great, ive also said that since last season - it's not EP but Horvat scoring at a 45ish goal pace going into next season... EP and close to 40 though... Do i like Miller more then Horvat? Not really - always felt Horvats game would be better suited in the bottom six the latter half of his legacy deal. That said, i am for sure wary about his sudden scoring touch. Haven't seen Horvat go end to end and score a goal that i can remember ... Miller did that last year. Also hate this Miller vs Horvat mumbo jumbo too. But i do trust the coaches. They are way smarter then me. And Horvat did get each guy but Miller last year, both with Green and with Bruce and he didn't do anything remarkable work it. Miller did though. Didn't matter whom they put on his line - with the exception of the lotto line, that didn't work. Two different coaches. Get they are a couple years apart. But let's be real, is a 27 vs 29 year old much different? Not really ... other then the carrot that is. Horvat is impressing the heck out of me too right now. He's doing what Miller did last year as in putting the team on his back. Hope we have room for both and can cut bait on others, and use that cap on the D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Oh that didn’t look encouraging. W is a W. Is the the start of the run for 16OA we all know is coming? Sh!t don't kill my buzz man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulCap Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 The next 4 games will be interesting as each of them are only 2 wins ahead of us. Will be a good test to see if we can be an offensive juggernaut that rides our luck. Only the sens have scored at the same pace. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck-lifer Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Petey... wow, that was his best game as a Canuck IMO. Not just 5 points but both ends of the ice and chance after chance. 111 point pace. Yep, we have a superstar on our roster! Now if everyone else can defend we got this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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