Canucks fan says misogyny a factor after man belittled her cheering at a game

[fivethej]

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/canucks-fan-says-misogyny-a-factor-after-man-belittled-her-cheering-at-a-game-1.6151478

 

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On the night the Vancouver Canucks honoured former player Kevin Bieksa, it was important for Richmond's Hayley Montes to be in the building -- but she didn't anticipate a verbal conflict with another fan.

 

"I picked that game because Kevin Bieksa was my favourite player growing up," Montes said. She enjoyed the pregame ceremony, and was loudly cheering the team on as the Canucks and Anaheim Ducks played an entertaining, high-scoring game. But an interaction with a fan sitting in front of her that took place late in the game overshadowed an otherwise great night. "He turned to me and he said I'm going to need you to shut the f**k up because I need to focus," she said. "And I looked at him and I was like, 'Wow, you're crazy!'" She doesn't think the other fan would have spoken to her in the manner he did if she were a man. She says a short time later he turned around to speak to her again and when she didn't acknowledge him, he grabbed her knee and held onto it while clumsily attempting an apology. "I said 'Don't touch me. I don't want to talk to you,'" Montes told CTV News.

 

After the game, she posted about the exchange on Twitter. "This man really went out of his way to intimidate me and basically belittle who I was as a person all for cheering for my favourite team," the post said. Shortly after she shared the story online, staff from Rogers Arena reached out to Montes to learn more about the experience. She says the team's vice president of fan experience offered her tickets to a pair of future games and reassured her the organization doesn't take incidents of fan abuse lightly. "We take these matters very seriously and firmly believe all fans have the right to express themselves and show their support for the team without incident," Wynn Moody, Canucks Sports and said in a statement. Moody also encourages any fan who experiences inappropriate behaviour at a Rogers Arena event to contact the nearest staff member or call the fan services line at 604-899-7400.

 

Montes appreciates the way the team and the arena responded to her complaint but says the situation has still left her feeling rattled. She says the situation is an example of the kind of misogyny in sports directed at female fans, journalists and athletes. "I was pretty nervous to start tweeting again," Montes said. "Especially because people when they see that you're a woman they're like, 'Oh my goodness. What do you know?'"

Edited November 14, 2022 by fivethej

[Neversummer]

How is she sure that this is misogyny?  Maybe the guy in the front would have done the same had it been a male obnoxious fan?  

Edited November 14, 2022 by Neversummer

[aGENT]

Is a person acting like an entitled douche the same as misogyny?

[Dazzle]

29 minutes ago, fivethej said:

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/canucks-fan-says-misogyny-a-factor-after-man-belittled-her-cheering-at-a-game-1.6151478

 

Yeah, I think she needs to get over herself. Just because you're a woman doesn't necessarily mean the dude was misogynistic.

 

No one is going to deny that the dude was a douchebag though. I mean, he also tried to apologize. I feel he is a bad drunk, and nothing more. There are people will not apologize for their actions and they aren't drunk.

Edited November 14, 2022 by Dazzle

[CBH1926]

Meh, just another dumb guy at the sporting event.

[JeremyCuddles]

This is the same as throwing around the race card. He told you to shut the hell up. Is he a douchebag? Yes, of course. If he needs to focus maybe watch the game quietly at home. Does that inherently mean misogyny? No. Him touching her is definitely weird though. He's a creep douchebag, but I dunno if he's misogynistic. At least not in the situation as described.

[Canuck You]

1 minute ago, N7Nucks said:

This is the same as throwing around the race card. He told you to shut the hell up. Is he a douchebag? Yes, of course. If he needs to focus maybe watch the game quietly at home. Does that inherently mean misogyny? No. Him touching her is definitely weird though. He's a creep douchebag, but I dunno if he's misogynistic. At least not in the situation as described.

You really think he touched her?...I mean 2 sides to every story.

[Provost]

This is missing a lot of info or is seems like a huge stretch.  Something happening to a woman doesn’t equate to misogyny unless there was some actual indication of it.  She doesn’t suggest that there was, and just that she felt it wouldn’t have happened to a man (men tell each other to shut the fuck up a lot).

 

Maybe she was screaming into his ear for a long time while he was trying to listen to the ceremony and speeches and he eventually got annoyed and beaked off.   He then tried to apologize later on.

 

As per her responses, it doesn’t seem like she felt unsafe or intimidated.  She told him off.

Not something I am going to be giving much attention to unless a lot more information comes out.  They will know who was sitting around the people so can contact them and ask what happened.

 

 

Edited November 14, 2022 by Provost

[86Viking]

Did this not happen to a family member of someone on this forum??

 

Alcohol will always make a small % of males act like complete idiots...

 

If the person in question for doing this can be identified maybe the organization makes a statement and bans him from entering the arena for ANY event for life...

[Slegr]

Shame on the team's vice president of fan experience. It sounds like she already had a bad enough experience, but you go on and give her pairs of tickets to more games? Hasn’t she been through enough?

[Neversummer]

^ who had too much to drink?  The guy in the front or the lady making the complaint?  

[chon derry]

[MeanSeanBean]

If there isn't more to this story, this sounds like a stretch to me. Sounds like he was being a massive douche, but doesn't sound like he was being an asshole just because she was a woman. I don't like that he initiated physical contact with her with her though. I would say the same thing if some drunk asshole tried to touch me though as well.

 

Don't touch people.

Edited November 14, 2022 by Shayster007

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

Here’s her own account on Twitter:

 

 

Surprising how much the CTV report seems to leave out and/or get wrong.

 

I agree that some entitled (and likely drunk) a-hole telling a fan to “shut up” is probably not misogyny. I think that guy probably would tell anyone to “shut up,” regardless of their gender, so long as he felt he could intimidate them (and, perhaps most importantly, he wasn’t intimidated by them).
 

The grabbing her thigh part, however. Yikes. I’m not sure anyone who isn’t a misogynist would ever dare to put their hands on a woman in that way. 
 

The guy sounds like a prick. And most likely he is a misogynist. Not sure, however, whether the initial interaction (where he told her to shut up) had anything to do with her gender.

 

That all said, hockey culture has a pretty rough reputation, and much of it deserved. Whether it’s women, BIPOC, or LGBTQ folks, many people have dealt with some really ugly stuff over the years, and those people’s experiences and their feelings around them are valid.

 

I’m sure most women who participate in the sport and its culture, either as fans, or directly (as players, coaches, staff, etc), have dealt with many instances of misogyny. Easy to understand how an experience like this one (getting yelled at and told to “shut up”) could feel like more of the same.

[cuporbust]

For f sakes. Misogyny? All this liberal cancel culture is accomplishing is lowering the bar for actual offenses.  Everyone sees how ridiculous it's getting , and long term , going to this extreme just de sensitizes everyone. It's a joke .

[cuporbust]

I know the general consensus not talked about is people being angry they can't say anything anymore without being labeled something. The same people at the watercooler saying they ate frustrated with this crap are afraid to not agree . It's brutal. 

 

Sure , misogyny.  Lol. My God. 

[cuporbust]

Homofobic , transfobic , racist,  misogynist/ sexist,  toxic masculinity,  politically incorrect....

 

And my personal favorite,  cultural appropriation.  We are all the same , and all equal..     unless a white girl gets dreadlocks. Then she's guilty of cultural appropriation ? Makes totally sense. 

 

So basically,  everyone is running around like  angry hypocrites without a clue as to why they are actually mad, and publicly shaming people into not honestly talking about how they feel.  Right on. 

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

Don't think he was being misogynistic, just an entitled #$%& 

 

I've seen these kinds of people at sporting events literally trying to shush people near them saying they're being too loud cheering. 

Even to other guys.

 

It's a sporting event. Not a library you clowns.

Edited November 14, 2022 by -DLC-

[Devron]

Fact: There are assholes everywhere

 

Make a big story out of it maybe you can get free stuff. Ugh people 

[MeanSeanBean]

59 minutes ago, cuporbust said:

Homofobic , transfobic , racist,  misogynist/ sexist,  toxic masculinity,  politically incorrect....

 

And my personal favorite,  cultural appropriation.  We are all the same , and all equal..     unless a white girl gets dreadlocks. Then she's guilty of cultural appropriation ? Makes totally sense. 

 

So basically,  everyone is running around like  angry hypocrites without a clue as to why they are actually mad, and publicly shaming people into not honestly talking about how they feel.  Right on. 

Quit yelling at clouds. There are more then enough cases of racism, sexism and transphobia to fill your boots. Just because a story comes out that doesn't necessarily sound like it fits the bill doesn't mean everything else gets a free pass.