J-23 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: If Gonchar is joining Tocchet I'm all in on this, Bruce is clearly not the long term guy so just pull the plug already. Gonchar is coming as well from what it looks like. Edited January 20, 2023 by J-23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 So if this Bruce’s last games. I’m really happy I’m going to these 2 games. Win the last one for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, Jaimito said: He's a tough MF. At least he won't let other teams step over them. I love that, and I hope JR also goes out and gets some players with some grit who can play. Maybe Tocchet will get more out of Joshua and Lazar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: If Gonchar is joining Tocchet I'm all in on this, Bruce is clearly not the long term guy so just pull the plug already. Why do you think Gonchar would be good? Not disagreeing just curious. I know he was an assistant in one of their cup wins. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 This does mean Yeo is gone correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Watch the owner decide it would look too bad to hire Tocchet now that it has become an embarrassing national story… and we end up with Babcock instead. Of course it would come out later that they bailed on Tocchet after offering him the job… and that would look even worse than hiring him under these classless circumstances. It is the worst kept secret, we already have been told Tocchet is even filling out his assistant staff with Gonchar and Housely. I wonder if the Canucks are leaking all this in hopes Boudreau quits and they save his salary. If it was accidentally leaked you would think they immediately pull the trigger on the firing and use one of the assistants who has head coaching experience as interim for a couple weeks. Even if they intend on firing all the assistants, that would play fine as the “new” head coach gets to decide on his assistants once he is hired. It actually takes work to bungle a normal coaching change this badly. Edited January 20, 2023 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 If we need “ major surgery “ would a top 5 pick not be the new heart transplant they need, we are trending towards that but with a coaching change we could get a bump and pick 10-20 and with a franchise type player in bedard why not put us in the best postion possible in the lottery This management group is mind boggling side note where and what does Allvin do around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Provost said: Watch the owner decide it would look too bad to hire Tocchet now that it has become an embarrassing national story… and we end up with Babcock instead. Of course it would come out later that they bailed on Tocchet after offering him the job… and that would look even worse than hiring him under these classless circumstances. It is the worst kept secret, we already have been told he is filling out his assistant staff with Gonchar and Housely. Maybe our owner signed Tocchet during his trip to Vegas (to meet with Tocchet) several weeks back? Tocchet had to give notice of a few weeks at his current job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, BertaNuck said: If we need “ major surgery “ would a top 5 pick not be the new heart transplant they need, we are trending towards that but with a coaching change we could get a bump and pick 10-20 and with a franchise type player in bedard why not put us in the best postion possible in the lottery This management group is mind boggling side note where and what does Allvin do around here Management is operating within the limited direction of the owner. No rebuilding moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Why do you think Gonchar would be good? Not disagreeing just curious. I know he was an assistant in one of their cup wins. Anything else? Look at the defence the Penguins have stayed consistent with, Letang, Pettersson and not much else and putting well above 500 records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, canuck73_3 said: Look at the defence the Penguins have stayed consistent with, Letang, Pettersson and not much else and putting well above 500 records. But they did that without Gonchar too. That comes down to just good scouting for me. Is there anything like a top penalty kill or anything else that he’s credited with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Housley and Martin please! No to Gonchar and Recchi! Might as well just move the team to Pittsburgh and be done with it. wasn't martin in pittsburgh too for like 5 or 6 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, DeNiro said: But they did that without Gonchar too. That comes down to just good scouting for me. Is there anything like a top penalty kill or anything else that he’s credited with? Top 10 PK in the league his second year, 18th his first and 27th his last but they were decimated with injuries and lost in the play in so 10-18th with a mediocre defense and Letang and Pettersson to work with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, tas said: wasn't martin in pittsburgh too for like 5 or 6 years? He’s been everywhere but yes he was part of their back to back cup wins. He would be my choice out of any possible coaches that Tocchett has coached with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Interesting comment form Farhan about Rick able to hold JT accountable at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, DeNiro said: But they did that without Gonchar too. That comes down to just good scouting for me. Is there anything like a top penalty kill or anything else that he’s credited with? 11th in the league in GA during the 3 years in Pittsburgh total despite how decimated the team was his final year there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 No new Coach... we don't need a bump which will still not get the team into the post season... or if it did, would be a quick 1st round exit. No, the team should be allowed to sink so the draft opportunities are optimized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, canuck73_3 said: 11th in the league in GA during the 3 years in Pittsburgh total despite how decimated the team was his final year there. Nice. Alright works for me. Having another Russian will help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 18 hours ago, Westcoasting said: Nope it’s not going to stay this bad… something has to change well coaching has been change multipled times now, this will be the 4th coach since horvat has been here and nothing has changed. How about change the mediocre defense that has been here since Gillis was the GM. I think the only time we had a good defense was when we still had AV, Luongo, Salo, Edler, Mitchell, Ehrhoff, Tanev etc. Now we have players in the top 4 that wouldn't have made the Canucks farm team back in the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 The Flyers were a big, mean bunch back in the day. The Broad Street Bullies. Surprised me to learn that Tocchet holds the all-time record in Gordie Howe Hat Tricks for the Flyers and the NHL (18). The guy used to produce and kick butt on a regular basis, and I'm really hoping he can instill more of that in the team. They don't necessarily have to fight, but they can be aggressive and physical, relentless. He's also won Cups, as a player and coach. He knows what it takes. I hate to see Bruce go, but I'm happy that he can get off this disaster of a rollercoaster and enjoy his family, maybe find another coaching job. He was put in an unfair spot when he was hired, and he's been positive and kind the whole way. I wish him the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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