canuck73_3 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 4 hours ago, grandmaster said: He is a negative value player in my opinion. OEL has been on the decline since he was in the Coyote organization, his play steadily worsen year after year. It was thought that he would have been rejuvenated coming to Vancouver but that was not the case. They can talk all they want about him getting better next year but we’ve heard that song and dance before. OEL at a league min contract is overpayment! Good riddance. That is just completely factually incorrect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: That is just completely factually incorrect. Only CDC thinks a guy 1/3rd of the NHL is interested in bringing in is trash. Just cause we bought him out doesn't mean he's garbage and can't contribute good hockey. Hell, I think buying him out was a mistake, but we needed the cap and management has no picks to sell our overpaid players. OEL is a good player, and I think it's gonna be pretty wild if Boston can make it work. They been rumored in being interested in him almost as long as our team was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 do teams have to wait till July 1 to sign OEL? I'd have thought not, as in my view he has no contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, JeremyCuddles said: Only CDC thinks a guy 1/3rd of the NHL is interested in bringing in is trash. Just cause we bought him out doesn't mean he's garbage and can't contribute good hockey. Hell, I think buying him out was a mistake, but we needed the cap and management has no picks to sell our overpaid players. OEL is a good player, and I think it's gonna be pretty wild if Boston can make it work. They been rumored in being interested in him almost as long as our team was. OEL is a good player? Really. Maybe you shouldn’t make comments unless you saw some of last years games. OEL and Myers were both statistically the WORST defending duo in the ENTIRE NHL. Here are some facts before you keep spewing your absolutely wrong take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, grandmaster said: OEL is a good player? Really. Maybe you shouldn’t make comments unless you saw some of last years games. OEL and Myers were both statistically the WORST defending duo in the ENTIRE NHL. Here are some facts before you keep spewing your absolutely wrong take. Yes, he played the entire year until shut down injured, the year before he was one of the best shut down pairs. So no, he is not negative value even at league minimum, not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Yes, he played the entire year until shut down injured, the year before he was one of the best shut down pairs. So no, he is not negative value even at league minimum, not even close. Our defence was just as porous the year before where wins were mainly a result of JT and Dem dominance. OEL was average at best and has never been a first star in any games in either season as a Canuck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Our defence was just as porous the year before where wins were mainly a result of JT and Dem dominance. OEL was average at best and has never been a first star in any games in either season as a Canuck. Nope. Last season was different. https://canucksarmy.com/news/amp/the-oliver-ekman-larsson-tyler-myers-pairing-lynchpin-last-season-actively-hurting-canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Our defence was just as porous the year before where wins were mainly a result of JT and Dem dominance. OEL was average at best and has never been a first star in any games in either season as a Canuck. Yet somehow some people think he’s going to flourish on another team. The guy is damaged goods. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 On a different note, the trades today are illustrating the significant premium on cap space, which support the decision for this buyout… at least short term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Yet somehow some people think he’s going to flourish on another team. The guy is damaged goods. He may not flourish but he will still be a capable top 4 dman. Just because he's not an elite level dman anymore does not mean he's useless and not even worth a league minimum either... Edited June 24, 2023 by canuck73_3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: He may not flourish but he will still be a capable top 4 dman. Justy because he's not an elite level dman anymore does not mean he's useless and not even worth a league minimum either... OEL is done. If a team signs him they will play him in their bottom pairing in sheltered minutes. Then soon after he will be watching from above and eating popcorn as a healthy scratch. The said himself he always relied on his natural talents and didn’t train hard enough. Time caught up with his lack of commitment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: He may not flourish but he will still be a capable top 4 dman. Justy because he's not an elite level dman anymore does not mean he's useless and not even worth a league minimum either... sure thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: I’m surprised at how much people think Dumba is going to get. This has him in the 4s and I’ve seen as high as 6 mil projected for him. I’d look at him for around 3 mil on a shorter deal but only after exhausting Mayfield, Peeke and Schenn. Edit: while we’re contemplating pillaging the Bruins, Connor Clifton might be a nice guy to snag as well if we can’t get a bigger body to play with Hughes. Edited June 24, 2023 by ilduce39 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, Alflives said: OEL is done. If a team signs him they will play him in their bottom pairing in sheltered minutes. Then soon after he will be watching from above and eating popcorn as a healthy scratch. The said himself he always relied on his natural talents and didn’t train hard enough. Time caught up with his lack of commitment. I'm pretty sure Juolevi and OEL share the same personal trainer, lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, grandmaster said: OEL is a good player? Really. Maybe you shouldn’t make comments unless you saw some of last years games. OEL and Myers were both statistically the WORST defending duo in the ENTIRE NHL. Here are some facts before you keep spewing your absolutely wrong take. Find me a graph for the season before. It's easy to trash players playing on a bad team. Or players dealing with injuries. OEL fits both of those bills. But sure, you know better than 1/3rd of the NHL cause some random ass spreadsheet. Owen Power and Moritz Seider are on that list too. Must be pretty ass. They should really trade them. Can't believe LA traded for Gavrikov. He is terrible. Good facts guy. Really sold your point. Edit: Didn't even mention the fact OEL is on that list with Myers. The guy the entire fanbase is literally memeing as the tank commander. Lol. Broken foot we expected OEL to carry the guy we are cheering on to hurt our team for a chance at Bedard. But yes, OEL is trash. Edited June 24, 2023 by JeremyCuddles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: sure thing Yeah, there is a middle ground between Top Pair dman and AHL Fodder, shocking I know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Yeah, there is a middle ground between Top Pair dman and AHL Fodder, shocking I know. Yup. That middle ground is an nhl 6/7 guy who eats a lot of popcorn on nights he’s healthy scratched. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 OEL going to Tampa is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 47 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. That middle ground is an nhl 6/7 guy who eats a lot of popcorn on nights he’s healthy scratched. He’s objectively better than that by every metric when healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said: Yeah, there is a middle ground between Top Pair dman and AHL Fodder, shocking I know. Maybe to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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