canuck73_3 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Maybe to you. 1/3 of the NHL disagrees with your thoughts on OEL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 People all hopped up on OEL tonight ... huffin' on his return to form ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr. Crossbar said: People all hopped up on OEL tonight ... huffin' on his return to form ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: He’s objectively better than that by every metric when healthy. He’s a pto. And he will show up to camp out of shape and that will be it. The league has no secrets. Only GMs who refuse to listen to the truth that’s available. We had a GM like that. And that’s how we ended up with OEL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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canucklehead44 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) The difference between OEL and Loui Eriksson is OEL was already terrible when we traded for him - he actually far exceeded expectations his first season here and it wasn’t his choice to sign that contract in Vancouver. Eriksson on the other hand went from being a very good player and scoring 30 goals to playing like absolute garbage after signing and struggling to score even half getting prime minutes with the Sedins and on the power play. I was in the camp of keeping OEL and seeing how he did with Hronek but I understand the buyout Trading OEL for Roussel, Beagle and Eriksson by itself would have still been a win for Arizona and a risk that would have made sense for the Canucks even if it failed. Perhaps a comparable albeit still worse version of the David Booth trade. But giving up a top 10 pick, a 2nd, 7th and now being saddled with Garland’s bad contract is unacceptable. Edited August 25, 2023 by canucklehead44 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: The difference between OEL and Loui Eriksson is OEL was already terrible when we traded for him - he actually far exceeded expectations his first season here and it wasn’t his choice to sign that contract in Vancouver. Eriksson on the other hand went from being a very good player and scoring 30 goals to playing like absolute garbage after signing and struggling to score even half getting prime minutes with the Sedins and on the power play. I was in the camp of keeping OEL and seeing how he did with Hronek but I understand the buyout Trading OEL for Roussel, Beagle and Eriksson by itself would have still been a win for Arizona and a risk that would have made sense for the Canucks even if it failed. Perhaps a comparable albeit still worse version of the David Booth trade. But giving up a top 10 pick, a 2nd, 7th and now being saddled with Garland’s bad contract is unacceptable. Hahahaha always a 2nd rounder in the mix. blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Hahahaha always a 2nd rounder in the mix. blah I know! How on earth did Arizona negotiate that. “Well we are giving you one of the worst contracts in the league and a player who will only agree to go to two markets… can you throw in a 2nd as well? Oh and before you go might as well give us a 7th” If we moved Miller for a top 10 Pick, 2nd, & 7th I’d be over the moon and he is infinitely better than OEL Edited August 25, 2023 by canucklehead44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, canucklehead44 said: I know! How on earth did Arizona negotiate that. “Well we are giving you one of the worst contracts in the league and a player who will only agree to go to two markets… can you throw in a 2nd as well? Oh and before you go might as well give us a 7th” If we moved Miller for a top 10 Pick, 2nd, & 7th I’d be over the moon and he is infinitely better than OEL I mean, technically we were also dumping 12M in cap which we had to pay for, even if it all expired after one year. The biggest problem was just how short-sighted the whole move was. It is a move teams make to try and push themselves over the top, not to try and finally make playoffs. I actually still think OEL is a serviceable defenseman, and should be better this year after a healthy offseason, but he never made sense for our timeline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Diamonds said: I mean, technically we were also dumping 12M in cap which we had to pay for, even if it all expired after one year. The biggest problem was just how short-sighted the whole move was. It is a move teams make to try and push themselves over the top, not to try and finally make playoffs. I actually still think OEL is a serviceable defenseman, and should be better this year after a healthy offseason, but he never made sense for our timeline. This the move had a window of 3-4 years max of OEL being effective, he was the first year and injuries torpedoed any chance of year 2 working out. I had anticipated year 4 onwards being bad here wasn’t expecting it happening so early. I would have preferred just finding a way to acquire Crouse and Garland in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 6 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: No surprise the Twitter “experts” are on there enjoying the sight of their own takes. Example one million of current or former players taking shots at the podcaster crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougieL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Hahahaha always a 2nd rounder in the mix. blah 6 hours ago, canucklehead44 said: I know! How on earth did Arizona negotiate that. “Well we are giving you one of the worst contracts in the league and a player who will only agree to go to two markets… can you throw in a 2nd as well? Oh and before you go might as well give us a 7th” If we moved Miller for a top 10 Pick, 2nd, & 7th I’d be over the moon and he is infinitely better than OEL You can thank the Sedin's for convincing Benning to include the 2nd that Arizona asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, dougieL said: You can thank the Sedin's for convincing Benning to include the 2nd that Arizona asked for. Long summer ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougieL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Long summer ? It's always a long summer when thinking about the course that the Sedin's have been partially responsible for setting this team on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougieL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 6/25/2023 at 11:03 AM, canuck73_3 said: 1/3 of the NHL disagrees with your thoughts on OEL. Where do you get this 1/3 number from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, dougieL said: Where do you get this 1/3 number from... Teams interested in signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, dougieL said: Where do you get this 1/3 number from... Have to wonder why there is interest from a Stanley Cup finalist, vs a basement dweller… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougieL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Teams interested in signing him. How do you know 1/3 of the NHL was interested in signing OEL? If that were true, don't you think he could have gotten a bigger contract than he did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougieL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 40 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Have to wonder why there is interest from a Stanley Cup finalist, vs a basement dweller… I'm sure you understand that there are varying degrees of "interest" - one end of the "interest" spectrum results in the signing of a player to a long-term big money contract; near the other end, it results in a one-year, nearly risk-free deal. I'll let you take a guess as to on which end of the spectrum was Florida's interest Cup finalists are typically fairly tight against the cap, and they can't afford to sign UFAs for big money. So they go bargain-bin shopping... I don't understand why you keep trumpeting "interest from a Stanley Cup finalist" - dude...they signed him to a 1y 2.25m deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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