qwijibo Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) Excellent low risk signing for Montreal. They were a better team when he was healthy and playing last season. Playing through a broken foot caused a groin injury. Hopefully he can stay healthy this season Edited June 20, 2023 by qwijibo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 15k bonus on $2M. Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted June 20, 2023 Author Share Posted June 20, 2023 Just now, DrJockitch said: 15k bonus on $2M. Weird I would assume it’s a games played bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, qwijibo said: I would assume it’s a games played bonus. yes, 26 games played 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted June 20, 2023 Author Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) He had 17 points in 25 games last year playing hurt. If he can stay healthy Montreal could flip him at the deadline for a decent return. Edited June 20, 2023 by qwijibo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Smart move by the Habs. They have Monahan to play 2C so Dach can play wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhippy Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Now that is a quality signing wow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Take note for those that feel Ethan Bear should get over $2M+. Yes, different positions, but Monahan is probably a middle 6 forward, and Bear is a bottom tier defenceman. Similar values IMO. There's just not enough cap to go around right now, which means the Canucks REALLY should be weaponizing their cap space and not burning it on a UFA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, HKSR said: Take note for those that feel Ethan Bear should get over $2M+. Yes, different positions, but Monahan is probably a middle 6 forward, and Bear is a bottom tier defenceman. Similar values IMO. There's just not enough cap to go around right now, which means the Canucks REALLY should be weaponizing their cap space and not burning it on a UFA. Bottom tier Defenceman so since this is Vancouver $6M dollars/year? He was on our top two pairings most of the year. Anyways, I would seriously consider walking on Bear, think the cap flexibility is more important and valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Just now, DrJockitch said: Bottom tier Defenceman so since this is Vancouver $6M dollars/year? He was on our top two pairings most of the year. Anyways, I would seriously consider walking on Bear, think the cap flexibility is more important and valuable. I think that's more a reflection of how bad our defence core was (particularly on the RHD side). Let's face it, he couldn't beat out Chatfield in Carolina for a 3RHD spot lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, HKSR said: I think that's more a reflection of how bad our defence core was (particularly on the RHD side). Let's face it, he couldn't beat out Chatfield in Carolina for a 3RHD spot lol Cool story bro... In their only year as teammates Bear played 58 games averaging over 16 minutes. Chatfield played 16 games averaging under 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highstickin Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, HKSR said: Take note for those that feel Ethan Bear should get over $2M+. Yes, different positions, but Monahan is probably a middle 6 forward, and Bear is a bottom tier defenceman. Similar values IMO. There's just not enough cap to go around right now, which means the Canucks REALLY should be weaponizing their cap space and not burning it on a UFA. Agree that we need to be careful about overvaluing Bear in contract negotiations but the Monahan contract is so far from a comparable for him it's really not relevant. Can we also stop with the weaponizing cap space! The canucks buy out OEL to get some cap breathing room and suddenly people want us to fill it back up with crap contracts just to get some measly 3rd round picks. MOVE ON. This team does not need to load up on 3rd round picks or even 2nd round picks when our core is getting closer to their prime ages. What team "weaponized" their cap space recently and had success with it? None, if you do that your just entering a long and painful rebuild that may or may not work out. I understand your concern over spending in free agency and I will agree that we cannot keep overpaying players and hoping they play up to that contract but look around at successful teams. The Stanley Cup champs this year alone had only 1 player they actually drafted and 8 players that were signed during FA who played a role in their run. There are a lot of ways to build a successful team but when a teams core is nearing its prime and you have limited cap space, you don't take on poor contracts to get marginal returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, coryberg said: Cool story bro... In their only year as teammates Bear played 58 games averaging over 16 minutes. Chatfield played 16 games averaging under 15. And then who eventually took the spot and ran with it? Just cuz they were teammates for a year and Bear played more, doesn't mean squat. Carolina clearly felt they would improve with Chatfield instead of Bear, and so Bear was put on the market. Not like a lot of teams wanted him either. I believe only a few teams were somewhat interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, qwijibo said: He had 17 points in 25 games last year playing hurt. If he can stay healthy Montreal could flip him at the deadline for a decent return. He used to be a pure goal-scorer back when he first got extended with Calgary but he's changed his game remarkably. He has no finish but is a solid two-way playmaker now. STAY HEALTHY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Was hoping we could snag him for our 3rd line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, HKSR said: And then who eventually took the spot and ran with it? Just cuz they were teammates for a year and Bear played more, doesn't mean squat. Carolina clearly felt they would improve with Chatfield instead of Bear, and so Bear was put on the market. Not like a lot of teams wanted him either. I believe only a few teams were somewhat interested. Bear requested a trade leaving a hole that Chatfield filled admirably but make no mistake about it Bear is the better player. Chatfield is a solid 6-8 Dman who is making league minimum and a great value for the Canes especially on a D core that is stacked ahead of him allowing him to play sparingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Like most of us, he peaked in his teenage years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 53 minutes ago, HKSR said: Take note for those that feel Ethan Bear should get over $2M+. Yes, different positions, but Monahan is probably a middle 6 forward, and Bear is a bottom tier defenceman. Similar values IMO. There's just not enough cap to go around right now, which means the Canucks REALLY should be weaponizing their cap space and not burning it on a UFA. So, what’s the best way to leverage their cap space, knowing they want to make the playoffs next year, and needing two top 4D, and a 3C? We won’t be taking contracts with picks for FC the way CHI has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, coryberg said: Bear requested a trade leaving a hole that Chatfield filled admirably but make no mistake about it Bear is the better player. Chatfield is a solid 6-8 Dman who is making league minimum and a great value for the Canes especially on a D core that is stacked ahead of him allowing him to play sparingly. Bear requested a trade when he was left sitting. He didn't request the trade BEFORE he lost his spot to Chatfield. This was nothing to do with cap either. The Hurricanes had cap space. They simply chose Chatfield over Bear. End of story. https://nhltradetalk.com/ethan-bear-requested-trade-from-carolina-hurricanes/ Edited June 20, 2023 by HKSR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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