garthsbutcher Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Hes so good Colorado is giving up on him at 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Newhook needed a change in scenery. Just wasn't going to progress up the lineup with Colorado looking to win, he fell down the depth chart. Montreal I think made a good bet on Newhook but a bit expensive. I forsee Colorado flipping those picks to add another bigger piece...perhaps Debrincat? So basically Kirby Dach reasoning? Seems like the Habs have a history of making head scratching moves when it comes dealing with centers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, iinatcc said: So basically Kirby Dach reasoning? Seems like the Habs have a history of making head scratching moves when it comes dealing with centers I’d be willing to bet he lines up as a winger in Montreal Edited June 27, 2023 by qwijibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Not a chance in hell. Garland is overpaid for what he brings and Montreal has several nhl ready guys who saw action last season thst could be pencilled in to where he would play for a fraction of the cost. Montreal also has a bunch of far more proven young defencemen in the system with more coming. Rathbone adds no value. So essentially it’s 5th OA for 11 OA. Montreal May drop back 2-3 spots max, and if they do the return is rumoured to be far better than that Look at Garlands numbers compared to PLD . Garland IS NOT over paid for his numbers. People have to realize his contract is good and to replace him unless it's on elc would cost the same if not more. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Just now, cripplereh said: Look at Garlands numbers compared to PLD . Garland IS NOT over paid for his numbers. People have to realize his contract is good and to replace him unless it's on elc would cost the same if not more. Agreed. He's not working out here at all, but that doesn't translate into him being overpaid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Newhook took like 9 face offs last year. I’d be willing to bet he lines up as a winger in Montreal Possibly but there's no doubt in my mind they hope he can be a center. My memory is foggy but wasn't that the hope when the Habs traded for Drouin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, cripplereh said: Look at Garlands numbers compared to PLD . Garland IS NOT over paid for his numbers. People have to realize his contract is good and to replace him unless it's on elc would cost the same if not more. Regardless. He adds no value to Montreal when they have guys who can do the same job on an ELC. Montreal isn’t moving the 5th OA for that package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: Agreed. He's not working out here at all, but that doesn't translate into him being overpaid. Only reason he is not traded is the cap not going up.It will but not enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 minute ago, qwijibo said: Regardless. He adds no value to Montreal when they have guys who can do the same job on an ELC. Montreal isn’t moving the 5th OA for that package. Nope that is laughable.They would need more and w piece or player they feel good about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Possibly but there's no doubt in my mind they hope he can be a center. My memory is foggy but wasn't that the hope when the Habs traded for Drouin? Different situation entirely. At the time Montreal had very few options at C. The Droiun fiasco was largely motivated by Bergevin giving into a small but vocal group of media and politicians who wanted more homegrown Francophones. It was a mistake the moment it happened. The fact that Newhook CAN play centre certainly doesn’t hurt Edited June 27, 2023 by qwijibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcheeze86 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Wouldve loved to see him as a canuck pretty sure he was huggys teammate in the WJC to bad guess will settle for a journeyman as our 3rd line c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, garthsbutcher said: Hes so good Colorado is giving up on him at 22 People that follow COL closely have often said Newhook is frustrating to watch. Probably the growing pains of a young still finding his way. MTL is probably a better situation for him, and COL cant afford to ip his cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Angry Goose said: People that follow COL closely have often said Newhook is frustrating to watch. Probably the growing pains of a young still finding his way. MTL is probably a better situation for him, and COL cant afford to ip his cap hit. I want to ip his cap hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: What do you think he's worth ? A 3rd round pick? About right and definitely not 2 picks especially in a deeper draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Topcheeze86 said: Wouldve loved to see him as a canuck pretty sure he was huggys teammate in the WJC to bad guess will settle for a journeyman as our 3rd line c newhook? newhook is canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, cripplereh said: I want to ip his cap hit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 2 hours ago, RWJC said: Anybody willing to do this? Not sure MTL does though. MTL trades: 5th overall Radek Dvorak Arber Xhekaj VAN trades: 11th overall 2024 1st round pick 2025 2nd round pick Connor Garland Jack Rathbone On our end is it overpayment to move up 6 spots? MTL ditches Dvorak’s contract now that he’s a 4th line C. We get an ideal RD in Wifi whom MTL would obviously be reluctant to give up. But, It addresses need and gets us into another potential franchise C drafting territory. Or, we turn around and trade that #5 tomorrow. Pretty sure Radek Dvorak retired 10 years ago. Xhejak isnt going anywhere. No one wants garbage like Rathbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Angry Goose said: Do not worry I tipe badly and ever second or third post you can gets me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, cripplereh said: Look at Garlands numbers compared to PLD . Garland IS NOT over paid for his numbers. People have to realize his contract is good and to replace him unless it's on elc would cost the same if not more. If he's not overpaid wouldn't the Canucks have traded Garland by now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Pretty sure Radek Dvorak retired 10 years ago. Xhejak isnt going anywhere. No one wants garbage like Rathbone Haha my bad. Christian Dvorak! Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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