-Vintage Canuck- Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Wonder why he went in ahead of Fleury? (yes, *I* can separate the politics from the player...well, in most cases ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Dude just completely vanished post-NHL career, even Flames fans find him elusive, helluva tender for a while there though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Howdy boys, last year was a sh**show and fans are pi$$ed! Treliving messed things up so bad, hopefully he'll continue to do that in Teranna. I reckon we need to give the fanbase a boost, get things kicked off on the right footing this season. We need a feel good story fast. Think boys, think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Great goalie. Turd fanbase and franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 He is the reason I started playing hockey. His 2004 run was just different... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: He is the reason I started playing hockey. His 2004 run was just different... That was definitely an exciting time to be a hockey fan... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Congratulations Kipper but his jersey going up before Fleury is ridiculous. It's one thing for the Hall of Fame to do Fleury dirty but the Calgary Flames organization shouldn't. Edited July 18, 2023 by Kevin Biestra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Congratulations Kipper but his jersey going up before Fleury is ridiculous. It's one thing for the Hall of Fame to do Fleury dirty but the Calgary Flames organization shouldn't. Meh. Fleury has been a polarizing figure going back to his playing days. His attitude, history of substance abuse (he used his own infants sons urine to cheat drug trsts) and problematic politics just don't make him a likeable enough guy to want to celebrate. Yeah. He was a point a game player during the firewagon period of hockey. Lots of guys were. But I don't think he ever won any individual awards. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Meh. Fleury has been a polarizing figure going back to his playing days. His attitude, history of substance abuse (he used his own infants sons urine to cheat drug trsts) and problematic politics just don't make him a likeable enough guy to want to celebrate. Yeah. He was a point a game player during the firewagon period of hockey. Lots of guys were. But I don't think he ever won any individual awards. Don't care AT ALL about his politics. Take his substance abuse and put it against his sexual abuse survival and he comes out way ahead or at least he should in people's eyes. He was top five for the Hart Trophy twice. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Don't care AT ALL about his politics. Take his substance abuse and put it against his sexual abuse survival and he comes out way ahead or at least he should in people's eyes. He was top five for the Hart Trophy twice. Main reason why I'm willing to cut him a little slack no matter how bat**** crazy some of his political opinions are. I can't say I'd end up "normal" if I had to go thru what he had to go thru. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Don't care AT ALL about his politics. Take his substance abuse and put it against his sexual abuse survival and he comes out way ahead or at least he should in people's eyes. He was top five for the Hart Trophy twice. Cool. But retiring a number is as much a PR move as it is a celebration of the player's accomplishments. You're celebrating the person. He's not deserving of that honour 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Cool. But retiring a number is as much a PR move as it is a celebration of the player's accomplishments. You're celebrating the person. He's not deserving of that honour PR move isn't a very good reason to retire a jersey in my opinion. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Kevin Biestra said: PR move isn't a very good reason to retire a jersey in my opinion. Welcome to the world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Welcome to the world today. Optics over results. Enjoy. Let's not celebrate perhaps the greatest small player in NHL history, an inspiration to anyone around his height that it's not completely impossible to make it, a First Nations player, probably the greatest of all time other than Trottier, also a guy who could have won the Masterton Trophy for what he overcame in junior (either the sexual abuse OR the arm nerve injury), a guy who was also a builder and invested in the Calgary major junior hockey team...because you don't like what he thinks about COVID? Edited July 18, 2023 by Kevin Biestra 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Any jersey retirement is a PR move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Any Canucks fan from the WCE and the years leading up to 2011 know how good Kipper was in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I’m a little surprised it took this long to retire his number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maninthebox Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Both are deserving, but Fleury should have been honoured first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Also why on earth doesn't Al MacInnis have his jersey retired in Calgary? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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