At trade deadline Bob Mackenzie was saying Canucks are getting significant offers for Schneider
Teams aren't that interested in Luongo
Go look through BMacs twitter for the Luongo Schneider value and teams interest in them, I think he said it on the team1040 too. The reason why SY is after Bernier over Luongo is because of age, SY has said he wants a goalie to grow with Stamkos and wants a younger goalie who could become a star. SY said he'd take a 20 year old Luongo
“Obviously I’d love to have a 20-year-old [Roberto]or Martin Brodeur and not worry about goaltending for the next 20 years, but that’s hard to do," Yzerman said on 620 WDAE.
the only one who is talking out of their ass is you, I'm just being realistic, it's simple Schneider holds more value due to age, contract not being so huge and taking him into his 40's and his play which stats and just watching him play he's showing he's the better goalie, he took the starter role from Luongo at the start of the season and again at the end in the playoffs. Luongo is still a great goalie and I think will be for many more years but Schneider is better and because of age a safer option. What blows my mind is your inability to put this together.
At trade deadline: This is when Luongo was the clear #1 on this team. I don't doubt he had significant offers, but his trade value was definitely not higher than Luongo's. The issue at hand here isn't Schneider's trade value - I'm sure we can get some significant piece(s) for him. The issue is who has a higher trade value - Luongo or Schneider. At the deadline, Luongo clearly would have had a higher trade value if available.
Teams aren't interested in Luongo: Again, teams have to pay a premium for a proven starter like Luongo. You go after the less expensive options and hope that they can get you through the year and into the playoffs. Heck, teams have more interest in Vokoun, who is older and not as good as Luongo, than Luongo right now - that's because he comes cheap and is a short fix. Or teams try for Bernier, who is cheap because he's unproven and take the risk like Colorado did with Varlamov.
Truth is, Luongo is the most expensive goaltender on the market, and rightfully so - he is the most proven commodity and will get you the results. It's premature to say that there is no interest in Luongo a month prior to free agency and a few weeks before the draft during the Stanley Cup Final.
Steve Yzerman: Yzerman can't afford Luongo - if Luongo could be had at the price that Bernier could be had, then there is no way Yzerman would turn down Roberto. Luongo obviously has a higher trade value than Bernier. Age isn't the only factor - it's the pieces you need to give up the player, and you clearly
have to give up more for Luongo than Bernier.
Age is the deciding factor definitely - if both players are proven. But the fact of the matter here is, Schneider has never played a full NHL season as a starter, and Luongo has many years and is good for at least 4-5 more years. You need to understand that. If Schneider played 1 full season as the starter and put up the numbers he did this year, no doubt Schneider's value would trump Luongo's. But fact of the matter is, Schneider doesn't have that under his belt.
And good young goaltenders like Schneider are abundant these days - Schneider, Quick, Price Rask, Varlamov, Bernier, Holtby, Pavelec, Lindback, Markstrom, Dubnyk etc - All under the age of 26. A few are already starters, some are backups waiting to be starters. You don't think a team can draft and develop a goaltender to replace Luongo in 4-5 years when he's out of prime and ready to retire? Heck, we have Eddie Lack and Joe Cannata in the AHL who could replace Luongo 4-5 years down the road if we trade Schneider.
But guys like Luongo - who have been starters for a decade and consistently put his team into the playoffs and put up 30+ wins in the latter half - these guys don't come around often. And when they do, teams need to pay a premium because they know exactly what they are getting back in a trade. If there are more teams interested in Schneider, it's not just because he's younger, but also because he can be had for cheaper because he is unproven.
And you still haven't provided me with a quote that says "Schneider's value >>> Luongo's value". Stop beating around the bush with CDC threads that don't actually address the issue.
Edited by Dasein, 03 June 2012 - 02:34 PM.