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#61 Newsflash

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 07:01 PM

:picard: Subban is only in his 2nd season, and has gotten 38 and 36 points in his first two seasons, much better than Edler's first two. Subban is already better than Edler defensively, and will be better offensively than Edler, at Edler's age. Edler is also a ufa next year. It's an underpayment from us.


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Subban's 2nd season isn't much better than Edler's 2nd. They are similar defensively.

I always lol when people think potential>the real thing.

Montreal would not trade Subban for Edler. But we would not trade Edler for Subban.

If you ask other teams, believe it or not, there are some that would rather have Edler. His lack of on ice antics, and already being an established #1 (or at the worst, #2) make him a desirable asset. Whereas Subban's RFA status, age, and potential (although if you ask me, Edler still has room to grow) make him a desirable asset.

That trade is not worthy of a facepalm, and even though Montreal would probably not do it, it's not because Subban>Edler.

Buddy I called this EXACT situtation on here two years ago and was flamed, so I guess I have a bit of hockey knowledge, not to mention the 4 years I played in the OHL idiot.


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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:02 PM

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Subban's 2nd season isn't much better than Edler's 2nd. They are similar defensively.

I always lol when people think potential>the real thing.

Montreal would not trade Subban for Edler. But we would not trade Edler for Subban.

If you ask other teams, believe it or not, there are some that would rather have Edler. His lack of on ice antics, and already being an established #1 (or at the worst, #2) make him a desirable asset. Whereas Subban's RFA status, age, and potential (although if you ask me, Edler still has room to grow) make him a desirable asset.

That trade is not worthy of a facepalm, and even though Montreal would probably not do it, it's not because Subban>Edler.

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Subban's 2nd season isn't much better than Edler's 2nd. They are similar defensively.

I always lol when people think potential>the real thing.

Montreal would not trade Subban for Edler. But we would not trade Edler for Subban.

If you ask other teams, believe it or not, there are some that would rather have Edler. His lack of on ice antics, and already being an established #1 (or at the worst, #2) make him a desirable asset. Whereas Subban's RFA status, age, and potential (although if you ask me, Edler still has room to grow) make him a desirable asset.

That trade is not worthy of a facepalm, and even though Montreal would probably not do it, it's not because Subban>Edler.


Edler is not anywhere near a #1 D, we don't have one on this team. Until he improves his defensive side of the game he is a #2 AT VERY BEST.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:25 PM

Raymond won'r fetch you Subban, but just maybe, Raymond plus our first would fetch Tinordi....

i take that deal any day. lol.

tinordi will be as valuable as subban if his development continues the way it has. he has potential to be better than chara
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:28 PM

Edler is not anywhere near a #1 D, we don't have one on this team. Until he improves his defensive side of the game he is a #2 AT VERY BEST.


I consider Hamhuis to quietly be a damn good #1 defenseman.
I wish everyone would stop trying to trade Edler. The Canucks would regret that. I take comfort in the doubt that Gillis would.
Why wouldn't there be interest in Raymond - Chiarelli is no idiot. CDC has this grass-is-always-greener way of perceiving Canucks players - other teams and their fans for the most part likely look at the roster and see a whole lot of talent they would love to poach. I find it laughable that people on here complain about our blueline, but are pining to add a pair of Leafs... Careful what you wish for.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:40 PM

Lol at all the views because of "Rayond drawing intrest"

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:58 PM

I can't see them giving up more than a 5th or a 4th.

Canuck fans don't value their players as much as other teams do, CDC could propose something like Raymond for a cond. 7th round pick, while other teams might be throwing in their superstars.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:10 PM

Raymond ballard first for malkin
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:20 PM

Raymond ballard first for malkin

throw in crosby and rights to lemieux if he ever returns again and it's a deal
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:22 PM

I like Mason Raymond because of his speed. I think we should keep him and give him 82 games with Kesler and Hansen on the second line and he'll score 25 goals. Then have Booth and Higgins and Malhotra play on the shutdown line.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:35 PM

Raymond to MTL for ANYTHING would be overpayment by MTL hahaha.

maybe Raymond/3rd for Moen?

Sedins - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - ________
Higgins - Manny - Hansen
Moen - Lapierre - Kassian

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - ______
Salo - Tanev

With Raymond/Luongo/Ballard possibly gone, that's $13mil right there for a top 6 forward and a top 4 D. Any ideas?

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:46 PM

I would be happy if Raymond was traded for a 6th round pick.

This guy is absolutely useless. Has no strength, falls all the time, misses the net and fear to go in front of a goalie.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:15 AM

I would be happy if Raymond was traded for a 6th round pick.

This guy is absolutely useless. Has no strength, falls all the time, misses the net and fear to go in front of a goalie.



Yeah he scored 25 goals in the National League because he is useless and has no strength. Those pucks just went in by miracles.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:37 AM

i take that deal any day. lol.

tinordi will be as valuable as subban if his development continues the way it has. he has potential to be better than chara


Sorry Dude but.. :picard:

Chara is arguablly the best defender in the game (Along with Weber).

I agree he has great potential, I just don't see him turning out as good as Chara let alone better.

He will be close (at best) but not quite as good.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 01:03 AM

Tinordi is what we need. A big mean player who can push other players around. But we also need speedy forwards like Raymond.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 01:03 AM

would be happy if Raymond could be traded for one of the L.A. big forwards or defensemen lower in their roster depth chart

get a Trevor Lewis or Dwight King's rights for Raymond and punch a soft spot in their roster when he plays lol... or swap his RFA rights and a 4th or something for Simon Gagne; both guys could use fresh starts and Simon could be the play maker for Kes

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:34 AM

Raymond is the ultimate asset. He is featured in 90% of potential CDC trades. We have only one chance to maximize return on this versatile trade-bait, and therefore we should target Sidney Crosby.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 06:11 AM

He'll probably have a Grabner-like season on any other team playing on their 1st line, then fade away.

I've always thought Raymond plays the same style as Crosby - a skilled game, not much physicality and great skaters and vision. They skate very similarly and puck handle along the boards the same, but obviously Crosby is about a billion times better at everything than Raymond.

If he can work on his strength Raymond is going to make a lot of CDC fans pissed off when he's tearing it up in 3 or 4 years time on another team. The kid still has potential to break out. I wouldn't mind him for 2 million playing on our 3rd line with Hansen, then drop him to the 4th line in the playoffs where he can be a sort of player who flies under the radar ala Gionta, Lewis, Bernier etc.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 07:23 AM

He'll probably have a Grabner-like season on any other team playing on their 1st line, then fade away.

I've always thought Raymond plays the same style as Crosby - a skilled game, not much physicality and great skaters and vision. They skate very similarly and puck handle along the boards the same, but obviously Crosby is about a billion times better at everything than Raymond.

If he can work on his strength Raymond is going to make a lot of CDC fans pissed off when he's tearing it up in 3 or 4 years time on another team. The kid still has potential to break out. I wouldn't mind him for 2 million playing on our 3rd line with Hansen, then drop him to the 4th line in the playoffs where he can be a sort of player who flies under the radar ala Gionta, Lewis, Bernier etc.

While I am prepared to see Raymond go in a deal that hopefully benefits the Canucks I agree that he still has potential. I also agree that his real position right now is on the 3rd line. IMHO his game should focus on the 3rd with PK duty. It would put him against opposing 3rd pairing dmen more often. To a degree I blame coaching for his season last year. His fundamentals could be a little stronger, ie body position on the puck and an ability to make the defensive play first and more physicality as in bumping opposing forwards more. I think he can come back and play a stronger game.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 07:39 AM

Hmmm... i hate boston and want nothing from them but montreal.... maybe if we through in our 1st round pick when can get subban :D

I want Plekanec.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:55 AM

Lol at all the views because of "Rayond drawing intrest"

everyone wants to see who exactly is that crazy.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:00 AM

Yeah he scored 25 goals in the National League because he is useless and has no strength. Those pucks just went in by miracles.



some did.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:24 AM

I want Plekanec.


It'll cost a hell of a lot more than Raymond to get Plekanec

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:10 PM

If this is true, I think Boston would be the better of the two, but only if the plan is to put him with Seguin. Seguin is a run and gun player who is most effective taking advantage of defensive mistakes and in the transition game. He has speed to go with his skills and would have no problems in keeping up. I, like every other Canucks fan out there, have no love for the Bruins and would not go out of my way to make them better. I think a team like Tampa or Pittsburgh may be a better fit. I think a second or third round pick in 2013 would be fair or maybe a throw in to get a deal done would be fair given his current production rate.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCe85jLBfXk

some did.


for his "first" career hattrick, tying George Laroque in that they both have their "first" !

That 25 goal season had probably 5-7 that were so lucky, and another 5-7 that the goalie definitely should have made the save.(like REALLY bad goaltending)
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 02:33 PM

I like Mason Raymond because of his speed. I think we should keep him and give him 82 games with Kesler and Hansen on the second line and he'll score 25 goals. Then have Booth and Higgins and Malhotra play on the shutdown line.


lol- not much to say.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 03:23 PM

Yeah he scored 25 goals in the National League because he is useless and has no strength. Those pucks just went in by miracles.


Hey sorry if I offended u MayRay lover but what has he done since that? Scoring 25 goals a couple years ago doesn't mean anything when he played so horribly the year before that and the year that just passed.

All speed and no finish, just like the comment you just made! Lol

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:11 PM

I bet Raymond's reading this thinking "Other teams want me! :bigblush: "
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 06:40 PM

Thanks news flash

That was the only drawing on this misleading thread, but it wasn't even a drawing of Raymond

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 07:16 PM

Raymond + Gragnani for Emelin and a pick

Where do i sign?
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 07:22 PM

Hey sorry if I offended u MayRay lover but what has he done since that? Scoring 25 goals a couple years ago doesn't mean anything when he played so horribly the year before that and the year that just passed.

All speed and no finish, just like the comment you just made! Lol


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