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#1 honey badger36

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

Soo we know the main reason Tallon wont take Luo is the $$$ not the cap.

I suggest we take a player that could help us with a cup run but would most likely get Bought out by Tallon next season... That player is Upshall. Hear me out Upshall is a Streaky rugged Playoff style player and his salary would be similar in cost to the price Tallon will have to pay based on the "Luongo rule" if he were to take on Luo. Which might get him to listen to the rest.

So the deal I propose would be Luo Raymond Tallon will love Raymond cheep speedy top 6 player on their team. Here he will be stuck on the third until injury.

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Well since Bjugstad (sp) is a non starter for a prospect back I would suggest Q Howden.
"Howden has excellent speed and agility and can be a dangerous short-handed threat on the penalty kill. Howden has an above average shot and scoring touch, and the puck-handling skills good enough to allow him to avoid defenders and distribute the puck effectively. Howden has improved his physical play, but he will need to continue to develop that aspect of his game to see NHL success."

For the roster player J Skille. 3rd line grinder with size and wheels former 5th overall draft pick so he must have some hands. Hes in a contract year and my impression is probably won't be resigned because they have soooo many great prospects to give his spot to. Somewhat of a throw in we could use though right shooting speedy truculent.

One of Theodore or Clemmensen most likely the latter because he as 2 years on his contract and Theo has a NTC. Clemmensen is a NHL vet and would be a good go between until Lack is ready of course I'd prefer Theo.

And of course Upshall he's mainly a salary dump (3.5m x 3years) but I think he could use a fresh start and could be a younger Raffi Torres light type guy.


OK flame away. Some other smaller pieces could be added but overall I think this could be a good trade for both sides. with Luo and Raymond I bet there back in the playoffs. But overall I think Luo for Howden, a solid backup and a couple throw in playoff style guys is a solid deal.
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#2 Everybody Hates Raymond

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:47 PM

This is new and original
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#3 Scott Hartnell's Mane

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:50 PM

Harry Belafonte strongly disapproves of you using his song title in the weak attempt at humor in this thread title.
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Well I tell you what Heretic..if Tim Tebow becomes Terry Bradshaw I will shave off all my hair, convert to Christianity, go into the ministry and become a preacher.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

If I was the FLO gm i would realize were not winning anything this year and stay the course to get Jones at the draft..
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:56 PM

This is new and original


If your looking for original I suggest not opening Luo to Florida trade proposals they only have so many players that they would part with same for the canucks.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

so Howden, Skille, Theodore and Upshall for Luongo and Raymond?
we give up a lot for crap that wont actually help us
Raymond>Upshall
Luongo>Theodore,Skille, Howden

the only thing intriguing is Howden
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:26 PM

so Howden, Skille, Theodore and Upshall for Luongo and Raymond?
we give up a lot for crap that wont actually help us
Raymond>Upshall
Luongo>Theodore,Skille, Howden

the only thing intriguing is Howden


Pretty much but Howden is the type of prospect we need. Raymond won't be resigned anyway though I am a huge fan of his (one of the few). And if you think Luo value > Theo Skille Howden he won't be if he isn't moved before the cap goes down and teams that might have been interested won't be because there paring down to make the cap.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:28 PM

No point in trading Luongo if that's all he can get.
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:41 PM

I don't understand you would rather sit on 5mill worth of backup goaltender for the next ten years because he wont get us the golden goose. At least these guys can help us and we get a future 1st line pf on an EL contract
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:58 PM

I don't understand you would rather sit on 5mill worth of backup goaltender for the next ten years because he wont get us the golden goose. At least these guys can help us and we get a future 1st line pf on an EL contract

Why? Cause the Canucks will be looking at a lottery pick if they make this trade? :towel:
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:08 PM

Harry Belafonte strongly disapproves of you using his song title in the weak attempt at humor in this thread title.

I thought it was cute.

Better than: Come Mr. Taliban, tally me Bin Laden...
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:09 PM

Why? Cause the Canucks will be looking at a lottery pick if they make this trade? :towel:


Really a lotto pick cuz we gave up Raymond?? Luo is on his way out the more he sits on the bench the lower his value monitarily and to the team. If MG didn't think we could make the playoffs with out Luo then he wouldn't be entertaining trade offers.

Howden is Projected to be easily a top 6 forward prob a first liner on half the teams in the NHL he will slot nicely into Booths spot when he becomes expendable.

Edited by honey badger36, 31 January 2013 - 09:16 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

I thought it was cute.

Better than: Come Mr. Taliban, tally me Bin Laden...


Yeah you would :P and ok, a bit better than that I guess.
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Well I tell you what Heretic..if Tim Tebow becomes Terry Bradshaw I will shave off all my hair, convert to Christianity, go into the ministry and become a preacher.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

Really a lotto pick cuz we gave up Raymond?? Luo is on his way out the more he sits on the bench the lower his value monitarily and to the team. If MG didn't think we could make the playoffs with out Luo then he wouldn't be entertaining trade offers.

Yes he is sitting on the bench a lot these days :rolleyes:
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

Yeah you would :P and ok, a bit better than that I guess.

At least the syllables matched up, haha.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

Pretty much but Howden is the type of prospect we need. Raymond won't be resigned anyway though I am a huge fan of his (one of the few). And if you think Luo value > Theo Skille Howden he won't be if he isn't moved before the cap goes down and teams that might have been interested won't be because there paring down to make the cap.


Gillis didn't even want Quinton, that's why the Ballard trade panned out. Why would he want him now at the expense of potentially his #1 goalie? I'd also be someone who is changing my mind about Raymond. Who knows, he may be CLOSE to that scoring form that brought him to 25 goals several seasons ago. Skille on the other hand is left with an "e". Theodore or Clem would have to be moved or come here but nothing else is worth the deal from Vancouver's perspective IMO.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

I don't understand you would rather sit on 5mill worth of backup goaltender for the next ten years because he wont get us the golden goose. At least these guys can help us and we get a future 1st line pf on an EL contract


What?

I didn't that in the trade... Where?
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:49 PM

But seriously who else do they have that they would be willing to give up. Luo isn't going to TO and what they have to offer is far worse than Florida. Edmonton would be ridiculous. Washington could potentially be interested in Luo but with Ovie sucking up 10mill cap they need to move mountains to take Luo. Philly has Briz to drag them down for the next eternity thats a huge buyout don't see it happening. Florida desperately needs a goalie especially now that there future starter has one of the worst injuries a goalie can have. IMO usually when a deal is right both sides feel they gave too much. I think taking upshall is just about right value to get Tallon to consider taking Luo's cap.

@ Aladeen he may have played the past few games well but in the words of MG "I haven't even considered trading Corey" we may have #1 and #1a for the time being but you can't believe if we wait till the deadline or off season his value will be more. It won't work like that or the title of my post would have been "Deadline come and Luongo home"
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:10 AM

I don't understand you would rather sit on 5mill worth of backup goaltender for the next ten years because he wont get us the golden goose. At least these guys can help us and we get a future 1st line pf on an EL contract

I don't think any of them help us more than what we already have and Howden is not a 1st line PF. It could happen, but that's not really a solid projection for him at this point. He's more likely to be a 2nd liner or a good 3rd line, 2-way forward.

Nothing wrong with him, but you're really overselling our return in this deal.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:44 PM

how about q howden shore and upshall for luongo and raymond
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