KING ALBERTS Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Is it only me who finds it annoying that if you critisize a player on the team almost everyone will call the poster band wagooner or only post a face palm. I thought the poiny of the forum is to share your opinion on the team. And regarding Keslers play, he hasn't been the same as he waa his Selke season, but he has been having injury problems, give him some time. If he doesn't come back to his game maybe the Canucks management should consider trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyPB Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I would rather have Kesler get in the box for dropping the gloves rather than embarrassing himself and the team with his diving antics. Also, it's not like our PP was going to do anything based on how it has been since the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
literaphile Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 It seems like that since Raymond and Ballard is playing well, Rome is gone and luongo is performing, the idiots in Vancouver have turn to a new target as their whipping boy. This time it's Kesler and kassian...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I myself am not trying to be critical of Ryan as much as AV for not trying him on the wing. Ryan is not a passing center but he is a good player. We need a passing center to make our second line better. If we had a more effective second line it would take a lot of the checking off the twins in the playoffs. Trade that Lou kid for a second line center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 You know you can criticize a player without turning him into a "whipping boy", right? And you know that criticism can actually lead to insightful discussion, right? Instead of going off-topic, why not address the point at hand - Kesler's play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 YUPZ, COMPLETLYEYZ OVRZRATTED! TRADZ HIMS GILLIZZ!!! In case you couldn't tell, I hate this thread more than any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adniel_g Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 YUPZ, COMPLETLYEYZ OVRZRATTED! TRADZ HIMS GILLIZZ!!! In case you couldn't tell, I hate this thread more than any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Many seem to forget that kesler played literally on one leg for the team in the 2010 playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Not overrated but perhaps under-utilised. The knock is his offensive production, particularly 5 on 5. He is not a set-up centerman and not offensively gifted in the moves department to beat many defenders 1 on 1. Where he is very effective is in finding open ice for his quick release shot. That would make hime a very effective winger for a set-up guy like Schroeder (or Hank). Schroeder sees the ice very well and is a great passer, capable of getting the puck through lanes to the shooter and at speed! I would like to see him tried on the wing with Schroeder on the line. Who takes face-offs doesn't matter but setting up their offensive attack based on Kes on the wing could be effective. Kes could also do PP and PK time. I dont see this as a demotion for Kesler but perhaps a better allocation of assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Canuck Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I completely agree with the OP. I've been saying this for a long time. Not only is he overrated, he's so full of himself, has so much attitude. I think he is an ideal 3rd line centre but not 2nd line. One thing I could never understand is, why can't the coaching staff move him to the wing? The guy has a winger's mentality. As a centre, he has no idea when to get the puck to his wingers, never passes, has no on ice vision. Cody Hodgson never wanted out of Vancouver, he just wanted more playing time, so why couldn't they move Hodgson to second line centre and move Kesler to the wing? is the coaching staff scared of this prima donna? I say we should do what the Flyers did couple years ago with Richards and Carter and trade Kesler. His value is still high and we can get a similar return for him as Richards and Carter. A top prospect or top 6 fwd and a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Remember when Kesler used to fight eg. Iginla? More willing to drive to the net than to shoot from the blueline? Played with a chip on his shoulder like he had something to prove to the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Here's some reasons why he's struggling. 1. His defensive play. Believe it or not, when Kesler is at his best defensively, it makes him better offensively. Creating turnovers in the neutral zone and giving our team possession of the puck increased his chances off the rush and gave him more oppurtunities. 2. Forechecking. Doesn't look like the beast he usually is on the forecheck when he was pretty much our best forechecker but now he's getting knocked off the puck easily at times by physical defensemen. 3. Vision/Decision making. He needs to stop trying the wrist shot all of the time and either pass or drive the net hard. When Kesler was using his speed to drive the net and set up linemates he was a force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I completely agree with the OP. I've been saying this for a long time. Not only is he overrated, he's so full of himself, has so much attitude. I think he is an ideal 3rd line centre but not 2nd line. One thing I could never understand is, why can't the coaching staff move him to the wing? The guy has a winger's mentality. As a centre, he has no idea when to get the puck to his wingers, never passes, has no on ice vision. Cody Hodgson never wanted out of Vancouver, he just wanted more playing time, so why couldn't they move Hodgson to second line centre and move Kesler to the wing? is the coaching staff scared of this prima donna? I say we should do what the Flyers did couple years ago with Richards and Carter and trade Kesler. His value is still high and we can get a similar return for him as Richards and Carter. A top prospect or top 6 fwd and a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Kesler is indeed overrated, when he's not playing with the Twins on the PP. Seriously, most of his points have come off the man advantage, when he's getting beauty passes from Henrik or Daniel or Ehrhoff or Edler. The guy can rarely carry the offence by himself. Blame his linemates all you want, but star players make their linemates better, and Kesler has never really shown that. You can bring up the Nashville series, but he basically took advantage of Weber and Suter double shifting the entire series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Your a moron. Just back from off season surgery Shortened training season End of a road swing after playing hard three games in four nights Before tonight only one pp goal against on the road trip Team is just starting to gel missing their top offensive minded passing D man THE SKY IS FALLING! Quick go tell everyone............ Seriously. WTF? Go cheer for a different team ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Team USA sure thought highly of him to elevate him to the top line in the Olympics with Patrick Kane and Zach Parise. But I guess CDC says he's overrated so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Remember when Kesler used to fight eg. Iginla? More willing to drive to the net than to shoot from the blueline? Played with a chip on his shoulder like he had something to prove to the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Is that right? The whole six games he's been back? Imagin that. Oh he's also got 4 points in those six games big guy. People said the exact same thing about Daniel Sedin when he came back from his injury a couple years ago. And how did that turn out? It took Daniel 10 games to start playing even remotely well. Then he went on to almost tie his brother in points ( who won the art Ross that year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I completely agree with the OP. I've been saying this for a long time. Not only is he overrated, he's so full of himself, has so much attitude. I think he is an ideal 3rd line centre but not 2nd line. One thing I could never understand is, why can't the coaching staff move him to the wing? The guy has a winger's mentality. As a centre, he has no idea when to get the puck to his wingers, never passes, has no on ice vision. Cody Hodgson never wanted out of Vancouver, he just wanted more playing time, so why couldn't they move Hodgson to second line centre and move Kesler to the wing? is the coaching staff scared of this prima donna? I say we should do what the Flyers did couple years ago with Richards and Carter and trade Kesler. His value is still high and we can get a similar return for him as Richards and Carter. A top prospect or top 6 fwd and a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I completely agree with the OP. I've been saying this for a long time. Not only is he overrated, he's so full of himself, has so much attitude. I think he is an ideal 3rd line centre but not 2nd line. One thing I could never understand is, why can't the coaching staff move him to the wing? The guy has a winger's mentality. As a centre, he has no idea when to get the puck to his wingers, never passes, has no on ice vision. Cody Hodgson never wanted out of Vancouver, he just wanted more playing time, so why couldn't they move Hodgson to second line centre and move Kesler to the wing? is the coaching staff scared of this prima donna? I say we should do what the Flyers did couple years ago with Richards and Carter and trade Kesler. His value is still high and we can get a similar return for him as Richards and Carter. A top prospect or top 6 fwd and a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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