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#1 Alex Burrows 14

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:11 PM

Im kinda curious as to why we didnt go after him. Or get him for that matter. I easily would have traded raymond, sweatt, friesen, 2nd, 3rd for him

I understand we are going for it all in the next few years but this guy is a stud. He is going to be a franchise player no doubt. I can see him being like jonathan toews.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:12 PM

Elvis is coming...............
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:13 PM

Elvis is coming...............


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:15 PM

You guys are mean. I guess I should take it as a compliment I'm being used as a replacement for IBTL and the spiderman pictures.

But seriously, this should be in Proposals or the Forsberg/Erat trade thread.

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#5 Alex Burrows 14

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:17 PM

You guys are mean. I guess I should take it as a compliment I'm being used as a replacement for IBTL and teh spiderman pictures.

But seriously, this should be in proposals or the Forsberg thread.


Ya it should actually, wasnt thinking
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:17 PM

You guys are mean. I guess I should take it as a compliment I'm being used as a replacement for IBTL and the spiderman pictures.

But seriously, this should be in Proposals or the Forsberg/Erat trade thread.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:19 PM

Because we don`t need him. He won`t be Jonathan Toews anytime soon and I just dont see him being that great.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:20 PM

Because we don`t need him. He won`t be Jonathan Toews anytime soon and I just dont see him being that great.


Why dont u think he will be that great?
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:24 PM

I think he is more comparable to Cory Perry than Johnathon Toews.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:34 PM

You guys are mean. I guess I should take it as a compliment I'm being used as a replacement for IBTL and the spiderman pictures.

But seriously, this should be in Proposals or the Forsberg/Erat trade thread.


Hahahaha, too funny :lol:
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:34 PM

Why dont u think he will be that great?

He dropped so low for a reason and I just haven`t seen anything spectacular. Yakupov looks great but will he be a kovalchuck or ovie, doubt it. Drouin on the other hand has great hands which could make him successful, but that`s not the NHL. I don`t think they`ll be another Crosby or Ovechkin.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:36 PM

Ya it should actually, wasnt thinking


You're making this too easy...
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:40 PM

Im kinda curious as to why we didnt go after him. Or get him for that matter. I easily would have traded raymond, sweatt, friesen, 2nd, 3rd for him

I understand we are going for it all in the next few years but this guy is a stud. He is going to be a franchise player no doubt. I can see him being like jonathan toews.


We couldn't give up what Washington wanted, Burrows Kesler or one of the Sedins would be the only ones that would offer as much or more value than Erat
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:48 PM

Forsberg is not even close to Toews... He's a good skater, has a good shot release, has good size and good playmaking ability. Lots of good, nothing great. Think of Blake Wheeler as a good comparison.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

We couldn't give up what Washington wanted, Burrows Kesler or one of the Sedins would be the only ones that would offer as much or more value than Erat


This pretty much.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:34 PM

You guys are mean. I guess I should take it as a compliment I'm being used as a replacement for IBTL and the spiderman pictures.

But seriously, this should be in Proposals or the Forsberg/Erat trade thread.


Are you a mod? lol every thread that isn't in the right section or has been discussed before, youre the one that pounces on the op :P

No way I'd give up our roster player for forsberg.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:38 PM

I think you guys are undervaluing him a lot. He was in the top 3 for a lot of mock drafts and was projected to go top 3, the reason i think he dropeed was because of all the d men who were needed more. I think he has the leadership qualities and ok maybe hes not going to be the next toews but toews is the player he reminds me of. And i think we did have the pieces to acquire him without giving away our future. I dont see how erat is worth so much. Hes good but i mean raymond, 2nd > erat. So not sure how we didnt have the pieces to acquire him, like i said in the opening post raymond, sweatt, friesen, 2nd, 3rd i think could have gotten him. I think that package is much better then erat and latta
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:45 AM

Are you a mod? lol every thread that isn't in the right section or has been discussed before, youre the one that pounces on the op :P

No way I'd give up our roster player for forsberg.

Did I say I was a mod? More importantly, am I incorrect that this is (was actually, it's in Proposals now) in the wrong section or that it already has a thread it could go in? The OP already agreed with that and it was moved as I mentioned. I am on here a lot though...

And your reasoning for why it's a bad trade is because we give up a roster player for him? Even if we were considering letting Raymond go as a cap casualty, or if he was replaced by Booth as a cap dump for us? I'd drop the picks, and maybe one of the prospects even, so I wouldn't do the trade as suggested, but I wouldn't be that offended if it was Raymond and Sweatt for Forsberg.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:12 AM

Did I say I was a mod? More importantly, am I incorrect that this is (was actually, it's in Proposals now) in the wrong section or that it already has a thread it could go in? The OP already agreed with that and it was moved as I mentioned. I am on here a lot though...

And your reasoning for why it's a bad trade is because we give up a roster player for him? Even if we were considering letting Raymond go as a cap casualty, or if he was replaced by Booth as a cap dump for us? I'd drop the picks, and maybe one of the prospects even, so I wouldn't do the trade as suggested, but I wouldn't be that offended if it was Raymond and Sweatt for
Forsberg.


But i think washington would want more
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:38 AM

He was simply the steal of the draft for WSH, i'm so disappointed in them trading away such a top quality player, I guess they felt they had enough young talent that he became an expendable piece, I also feel McPhee was under a lot of pressure to make the playoffs, they've been through 3 couches in 2 years his job was next on the chopping block.
He did drop in the draft but he also openly admitted he wouldn't be making the jump to the NHL in his first year. Just think 8 players that were selected before him we D he was the 3rd highest drafted forward last year. He will be a star in this league, he's got speed, hands, leadership, and size. If I'm Gillis I throw the book at bringing him in from NSH. Imagine what he could become with a couple of his fellow swedes mentoring him.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:18 PM

But i think washington would want more

Oh, I agree they'd likely want a little more, although Raymond might be the right piece to help for right now. I wonder if they wouldn't take one of Rodin, Grenier or maybe even LaBate along with Raymond for us to get back Forsberg though.

Forsberg is a higher end prospect in return for us giving up a roster player and a prospect, although that doesn't help our team going into the playoffs. Raymond is a more affordable offensive player (albeit a pending UFA) at $2M+ less cap hit than Erat so that could be a plus for them.

I actually proposed a deal on their boards, but the posters that replied didn't think it was a good trade for them:

Neuvirth, Forsberg and a 2nd
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Luongo, Raymond and Anton Rodin

I weighted it a bit in their favour I thought, but they said no and they'd rather trust Holtby. Some were even thinking Erat would be better for them despite the cap worry.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:29 PM

Really?

I would have thought Lou for Forsberg is exactly the trade they would have needed... edit > the value we needed.

Indrpendent; honey badger???

Oh, I agree they'd likely want a little more, although Raymond might be the right piece to help for right now. I wonder if they wouldn't take one of Rodin, Grenier or maybe even LaBate along with Raymond for us to get back Forsberg though.

Forsberg is a higher end prospect in return for us giving up a roster player and a prospect, although that doesn't help our team going into the playoffs. Raymond is a more affordable offensive player (albeit a pending UFA) at $2M+ less cap hit than Erat so that could be a plus for them.

I actually proposed a deal on their boards, but the posters that replied didn't think it was a good trade for them:

Neuvirth, Forsberg and a 2nd
for
Luongo, Raymond and Anton Rodin

I weighted it a bit in their favour I thought, but they said no and they'd rather trust Holtby. Some were even thinking Erat would be better for them despite the cap worry.


Edited by Canuck Surfer, 09 April 2013 - 04:15 PM.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:07 PM

Raymond was not the player Wash needed. Erat is a far more complete player that can make others better. Pretty under-rated.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:01 PM

Raymond was not the player Wash needed. Erat is a far more complete player that can make others better. Pretty under-rated.

$4.5M for the next two years wasn't what Washington needed either.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:20 PM

$4.5M for the next two years wasn't what Washington needed either.

They are in the midst of a battle to squeeze into the playoffs. Erat is obviously a player that they targeted and for good reason as well. The guy had 8 straight seasons where he put up nearly 50 points. Raymond has reached 50 point once in his career and has never come close since. There is no question that Erat is the better player. This is similar to the Preds giving up a 1st round pick for Paul Gaustad last year. The Preds goal was to gain an edge over the teams they were competing with and they obviously paid a lot for it. I doubt the Preds trade Forsberg at least until they see what they have in him.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:04 PM

I agree Erat is better, but the season's they're having this year aren't significantly different, certainly not enough to warrant an extra $2.25M in cap hit. Raymond might be due for a raise next year, but not as much as Erat currently makes still.

In any case, it's my opinion and we don't all have to agree. Certainly the discussion here is about why we didn't go after him and how it might have worked if we did.
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