IamHomer Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 The same day as the Sandy Hook shooting there was a school attack in China where they injured 23 people with a knife. Since it's hard to get a gun in China you will find all kinds of similar stories of school attacks with knives and box cutters ect. People will use what's available to them regardless of what's legal. Maybe we should ban pressure cookers too. You can cause way more casualties with a pressure cooker than a gun in a crowded area.Haha you're gonna compare little kids with college students? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Haha you're gonna compare little kids with college students? Americans banned lawn darts, and I loved tossing those around. I guess some kid got one in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Well lemme stop ya there First we'd also have to have an ignorant government willing to take money from any and all available lobbysists. We don't (openly) We'd have to have an ever greater sense of entitlement which we don't Then we'd have to give every man woman and child 1.68 guns which is the ratio of gun ownership in the us...legal gun ownership only that is So no. That ratio wouldn't even be close for gun related deaths imo I am all for owning firearms. I have no issue with it. Fully auto on the other hand and the tactical accesories sold by the millions not so much. But if we did have 320 million I can guarantee you would see plenty self entitled pricks and the gun ratio would go up. To think otherwise is just silly because were Canadian eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Americans banned lawn darts, and I loved tossing those around. I guess some kid got one in the head. That was me n my buddy back in 83' he took one in the forehead. Then they go n ban em, sorry guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 God bless America. Although if those student victims had been packing, then they could have defended themselves, and saved lives. Maybe everyone should pack? It would be a lot safer. No joke this is what the mentality has come to. It just actually increases the probability of an altercation with a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 People rape. Ban sex. People kill with guns, while others kill with knives, so why have any bans. Bottom line is people kill. Permit individuals to own of bombs, weaponized plutonium and anthrax in order to make USA a safer place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Correct. Except you gotta dig deeper into the numbers rather than just taking them at face value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks_kcchiefs Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 This guy asked who the Christians were before he shot them. Christians in the head, anyone else in a limb. Disgusting. Hate that no one talks about this, does that matter to any non Christians? Guess not, only when it involves race is it a hate crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 There is no proof he had mental illness. This sounds like atheist motivated terrorism. I'd say almost anyone who can commit something like this has a mental illness. At the very least very psychopathic and/or sociopathic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Remove gang related shootings and suicides, and the numbers are a lot closer than you think. No reason to remove them other than to make the numbers match what you want to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I am all for owning firearms. I have no issue with it. Fully auto on the other hand and the tactical accesories sold by the millions not so much. But if we did have 320 million I can guarantee you would see plenty self entitled pricks and the gun ratio would go up. To think otherwise is just silly because were Canadian eh ? why would the ratio go up? Those nnumbers have very little to do with population and a lot to do with regulations. Canada already has one of the highest gun to person ratio in the world. Kiev we are like 5th behind the US and Serbia and switzerland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 This guy asked who the Christians were before he shot them. Christians in the head, anyone else in a limb. Disgusting. Hate that no one talks about this, does that matter to any non Christians? Guess not, only when it involves race is it a hate crime. It only seems to qualify as a hate crime if a white male commits it, and the victims are black, jewish, female, muslim or gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Now, that being said. Anyone care to guess if this will be a terrorist act? Or another "mentally ill" individual? The difference? Skin colour or religious belief I agree with the rest of your comment, but this isn't necessarily the case and is part of the problem more than any solution. It's important NOT to start labeling a bunch of tragic and deplorable acts as "terrorism" because it dilutes things and does desensitize in an everyday occurrence way. So to be specific in pinpointing is pretty important. Before we start throwing everything into the "terrorism" pool (that helps support actions against "terrorism" that are often just an excuse to kill in support of hidden agendas). Timothy McVeigh was correctly deemed a "terrorist"...but there are a lot of "sick" people who are just that. Not sure how it's defined, but, in my mind, terrorism is more of an act that uses terror and barbaric acts and killing to perpetuate a feeling of fear and send a message moreso than a one time act that's the culmination of instability. I don't really want everything to be lumped under "terrorism" because there are people who exploit that for their own agendas. Let's not feed that ugly beast. Organized groups that have a mission and kill in support of it. That's different than some misguided, angry person who thinks the world is out to get him/her and fights back against it with irrational and deadly force. If that makes any sense at all? The whole blanket of fear being thrown over us thing. I do think we are bombarded with things/ideas/images that, in an unhealthy mind, can lead down paths and gather steam. If they're unchecked and allowed to fester it can build momentum...having someone intervene is critical. That isn't always happening. A fine line between an unhealthy mind/individual and a terrorist - it can cross over when acts are played out. There's not a whole lot separating the two and, honestly, they're all people who've lost sight of things and are taking it to an extreme in desperate acts supporting their "vision". I think I just did a full circle here to partially agree with you, which is the result of the complexity of this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Except you gotta dig deeper into the numbers rather than just taking them at face value. LOL - nice cherry pick - that's over all "intentional murder rate" not murders by guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I am all for owning firearms. I have no issue with it. Fully auto on the other hand and the tactical accesories sold by the millions not so much. But if we did have 320 million I can guarantee you would see plenty self entitled pricks and the gun ratio would go up. To think otherwise is just silly because were Canadian eh ? Except of course again America has a government and billion dollar funding lobbyists putting guns in the hands of everyone since the 30's We'd have almost 70 years of catching up to do. So again, no. Those numbers wouldn't even be close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_More_Larchide Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Wife and I were on our Honeymoon, (did a 3 week California/Oregon road trip) and we were 2 blocks away from this when It happened. We were at a stop light and 6+ police cruisers and an insane amount of Ambulances were driving by, we assumed it was a bad accident, then heard on the radio what was really going on.... Such a small town, I can understand how hard that hit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks_kcchiefs Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 It only seems to qualify as a hate crime if a white male commits it, and the victims are black, jewish, female, muslim or gay The sad truth. There's a lot of Christian hate out there and I can only assume this will keep happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 If by gangs you mean white kids who started smoking at age 13 doing petty crime and ending up in the drunk tank every week,calling themselves gangs, doing/selling drugs and beating each other up, then yes, there are a lot of "gangs" Yeah, that's who we keep hearing about. All these shootings in the lower mainland are by 13 year old white kids. Delusional much?? In PG the gang members have to shoot at houses to get in. Those never make the news. My friends house was hit by 3 bullets and just missed his daughter, yet it didn't even make the local paper. News media put in mainstream type stories and ignore a lot of what should be reported. Friendly crow, Bear spotted in pool, Orcas swimming, Whale spotted, Try the food from this restaurant, Taste this wine, Try this cocktail, Try this recipe on your bbq. They put a few real news at the start and distract people with feelgood stories except when they want to instill fear for political purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Question. Not that I'm pro-gun, but how will taking away guns help when a gun got into a gun-free zone (aka the school)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes!!! Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I go to the states for my guns and Canada for my Kinder Surprise. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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