rekker Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, stawns said: I never said anything about any other part of his game being deficient........but if he can't win draws, he won't be playing C I agree. But the Oilers dont. McSaviour is horrible at draws. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, rekker said: I agree. But the Oilers dont. McSaviour is horrible at draws. Lol. Don't compare EP to McDavid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 hours ago, The_Rocket said: Yeaahhhh okay nowhere in my post did I say I would be upset if pettersson plays the wing. In fact I think he would have a very good season if he played there. My point was that his weak FO shouldn’t inhibit him from playing centre, as many young players have very successful seasons at centre despite bad FO%. The decision to put him at Wing or at centre shouldn’t be based on his FO. Of course it will be. Draws are one of the two most important aspects of a cman's game. You're not going to put a player at C if he can't win a draw. Any coach who did would be fired........and spare me the McDavid argument, it's ridiculous. If he can't win a draw, he will spend every shift chasing the puck and call me crazy, but I'd rather having opposing players chasing him with the puck. Maybe he just had a bad weekend in the dot, but he wasn't good enough to take them in the SHL, nor was he good enough to take them.at the WJHC.........but suddenly, a little work with MM and he's going to, magically, be able to take them against the best faceoff guys in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old guy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) "I seen him lose 4 in a row" There is no such thing in English language usage as using "seen" that way. I'm not trying to be a grammar policeman but just trying to help. If you speak or write that way you will mark yourself to some people as being under-educated. The past tense of "see" is "saw". The past participle is "seen" usually used with a helper verb such as "have", "is", "was"," are". I saw the coyote in the park yesterday (simple past usually requiring a specific time frame-yesterday). I have seen the coyote in the park before (past participle with helper verb "have" referring to an indefinite time in the past). Just trying to help. Edited September 10, 2018 by old guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, stawns said: Don't compare EP to McDavid Then you can't imply that playing C is largely dependent on your FO%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: EP cleanly won 4 FO's in the 2nd game....while I don't have the stats ...I am sure that he was at least 50% in the second game which is a huge improvement from the first. Also the Jets were beating everybody at the dot...Gaudette had a horrible night at the dot...I seen him lose 4 in a row in one period of play....so the Jets have better FO guys... We have better guys....period...guys that can take the puck away after a faceoff loss.... Gaudette is unlikely to be playing C in Van (though he likely starts in Utica) if he can't win draws either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Hutton Wink said: Then you can't imply that playing C is largely dependent on your FO%. If EP can do what McDavid does, he could lose every draw. It's a laughable argument to use the best player in the world as your example. I have few doubts that with a cpl seasons of work with MM, he'll probably become a full time 1C, but from everything I saw this weekend and his lack of playing time at the position at the WJHC and in the SHL, he won't be taking many draws anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, old guy said: "I seen him lose 4 in a row" There is no such thing in English language usage as using "seen" that way. I'm not trying to be a grammar policeman but just trying to help. If you speak or write that way you will mark yourself to some people as being under-educated. The past tense of "see" is "saw". The past participle is "seen" usually used with a helper verb such as "have", "is", "was"," are". I saw the coyote in the park yesterday (simple past usually requiring a specific time frame-yesterday). I have seen the coyote in the park before (past participle with helper verb "have" referring to an indefinite time in the past). Just trying to help. I hear this every day, it drives me crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, old guy said: "I seen him lose 4 in a row" There is no such thing in English language usage as using "seen" that way. I'm not trying to be a grammar policeman but just trying to help. If you speak or write that way you will mark yourself to some people as being under-educated. The past tense of "see" is "saw". The past participle is "seen" usually used with a helper verb such as "have", "is", "was"," are". I saw the coyote in the park yesterday (simple past usually requiring a specific time frame-yesterday). I have seen the coyote in the park before (past participle with helper verb "have" referring to an indefinite time in the past). Just trying to help. Oh Oh! Look out CDC'rs We have an English professor onboard! Lord help us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old guy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Couldn't help myself. That's what screeching on a blackboard does to me-makes me do crazy things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, stawns said: Don't compare EP to McDavid He didn’t actually. He compared your statement against an example of where that statement is found to be untrue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, nzan said: He didn’t actually. He compared your statement against an example of where that statement is found to be untrue. He compared EPs issues with faceoffs with McDavids and used it as an example to show why EP should play C in the NHL. It's a ridiculous comparison. I'll be thrilled if EP can get to the 35-40% mark and, at least, play at C a bit. But if he's losing 70-75% of his draws, I have a very happy d time seeing him playing C at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 36 minutes ago, stawns said: If EP can do what McDavid does, he could lose every draw. It's a laughable argument to use the best player in the world as your example. Did McDavid start on the wing, or was that because he was already the "best player in the world" before he even played a single NHL game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, stawns said: Of course it will be. Draws are one of the two most important aspects of a cman's game. You're not going to put a player at C if he can't win a draw. Any coach who did would be fired........and spare me the McDavid argument, it's ridiculous. If he can't win a draw, he will spend every shift chasing the puck and call me crazy, but I'd rather having opposing players chasing him with the puck. Maybe he just had a bad weekend in the dot, but he wasn't good enough to take them in the SHL, nor was he good enough to take them.at the WJHC.........but suddenly, a little work with MM and he's going to, magically, be able to take them against the best faceoff guys in the world? Nathan MacKinnon Evgeni Malkin Mathew Barzal Evgeny Kuznetsov Jack Eichel Jonathan Marchessault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, stawns said: I never said anything about any other part of his game being deficient........but if he can't win draws, he won't be playing C I never said you did say anything about other parts of his game. I was simply stating another observation I had supporting my claim I think he would be a well suited center even this year. The discussion point at hand though is draws. My eyes told me he improved over the weekend. I could very easily be wrong, like you said I was. I simply asked how you were confident enough to completely dismiss my claim of his improvement over the weekend. I have not been able to find any score sheets after the prospect game yet to check the stats. If we was able to make, even a minor improvement over the course of 2 games, I would be willing to give him the opportunity to show how much he can improve over the course of 82 with one of the greats in the dot coaching him. Edited September 10, 2018 by shayster007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, stawns said: He compared EPs issues with faceoffs with McDavids and used it as an example to show why EP should play C in the NHL. It's a ridiculous comparison. I'll be thrilled if EP can get to the 35-40% mark and, at least, play at C a bit. But if he's losing 70-75% of his draws, I have a very happy d time seeing him playing C at all Control of the puck of the face off is only won by a clean win by the center. A fair amount of face offs are won by the center scrambling the draw and letting his winger get position of the puck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted September 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) I think I'd like to see how he does at face offs etc over the course of the preseason before I declare anything about his game or where I think he should play. Edited September 10, 2018 by aGENT 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 hours ago, aGENT said: Because Boeser's spot on the PP is on Edler's back hand. Higher turnover/lower completion risk. Had nothing to do with not liking passing to Boeser specifically. nah he hates boeser 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Odd. said: nah he hates boeser Clearly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: I think I'd like to see how he does at face offs etc over the course of the preseason before I declare anything about his game or where I think he should play. I agree completely, but he just went through a weekend of faceoffs against the easiest competition he'll face going fwd. It's not a shot or criticism of EP, he had an amazing weekend and I'm excited to see him play against NHL'ers. But, faceoffs are, despite what some are trying to convince themselves of, a very big deal for cmen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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