Canuck Surfer Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I'm not quite sure I'm convinced @SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME? But bloody good argument! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: I'm not quite sure I'm convinced @SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME? But bloody good argument! Honestly, half the reason I’m making the argument is that I’m trying to balance my hype man side with my more conservative side. I’ve made a lot of really optimistic posts on Brassard but I also don’t want to oversell him. He still needs development time. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he’s ready to go pro by next season. I just don’t want to represent him as “fully cooked” because he’s not. But the AHL is a good development league so I’m not the least bit opposed to continuing his development there if the team decides they feel he’s ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Ray_Cathode said: Well, Chris Tanev was in a league even lower in Ontario as an overage and didn’t do too badly. My point was I believe Brassard needs to play against guys his own age and size. If you want him to develop edge, compete, positioning, a first pass under pressure, put him in the AHL? An underated option, rarely seen in N A merican kids, is send him to Europe. He'll have less of the physical play shift by shift. But it is still against men, and he'll still have to go to the corners. And he'll have to open up his skating, learn to handle the puck, use open space. Some items conceivably he would gain confidence doing against younger players as an overager in junior? I just like the Euro option against men better. As much as it is not a route with natural options waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: His skating is ok. Has a bit of the “heavy feet” problem. Gets around fine but he doesn’t look effortless while skating. Could probably benefit from some technical work. One positive is that he’s one of those players who goes the same speed whether he’s skating with or without the puck. His puckhandling (and hands in general) are underrated (although that’s changing with the goals he’s been scoring). Defensively, he can get turned around and maybe blow a tire when he’s dealing with some of the more shifty elite forwards. Doesn’t always make the right reads and sometimes loses his position. Pretty standard stuff for a developing D, and most of the times I can remember him getting beat happened when apparently he was nursing an injury (according to the report I posted earlier). Anyway, probably fair to say there's room for improvement in his own end. Like that report said though, he’s engaged and battles hard and plays a physical brand of defense, which is obviously a big plus. thanks for the post Edited February 17, 2018 by Canucks Curse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 9 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I’m still undecided. I’d like to see him signed at some point but I might prefer to have him do an overage year in the OHL. I’m certainly open to going the Utica route if he looks ready at camp. I’m just thinking that with his recent surge offensively, it might be better for him to have a year where he has a chance to dominate and play huge minutes as a 20yo in junior, just to see what kind of numbers he could put up in the role. He’s a late bloomer and I don’t think he’s quite reached the point where he can’t learn more and improve his game within the junior system. Might pay off better to let him springboard off this second half performance and hopefully take his game to even greater heights next year. This is an option that the Canucks don't shy away from. I think McEneny ( missed an entire OHL season ) and Sautner ( greatly improved after an AHL concussion issue ) both did the overage thing. I'm guessing that Carl Neill may have been encouraged to go that route too. Like most CDCers, I've only seen snippets of his play and the 'heavy foot' label that was attached to him seems accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 23 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: My point was I believe Brassard needs to play against guys his own age and size. If you want him to develop edge, compete, positioning, a first pass under pressure, put him in the AHL? An underated option, rarely seen in N A merican kids, is send him to Europe. He'll have less of the physical play shift by shift. But it is still against men, and he'll still have to go to the corners. And he'll have to open up his skating, learn to handle the puck, use open space. Some items conceivably he would gain confidence doing against younger players as an overager in junior? I just like the Euro option against men better. As much as it is not a route with natural options waiting... Skating isn’t learned in games, it’s learned in training, power skating, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said: Skating isn’t learned in games, it’s learned in training, power skating, etc. Skating yes, but let me clarify; Skating with the puck & making plays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Brassard with the primary assist on Oshawa’s 5-4 OT winner today. Nice execution of a set play off the opening OT faceoff to send Noel in all alone. Brassard was on the ice for all 5 Generals goals for, but ends up a -1 as most of Oshawa’s scoring came on special teams. He now has 42 points (14G 28A) in 57 games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Ryan Biech (Canucks Army) with a profile on Brassard as part of their midterm prospects rankings (#19): https://canucksarmy.com/2018/02/22/canucksarmy-2018-mid-term-prospect-ranking-19-matt-brassard/ I’ll copy paste in a spoiler: Checking in as the 19th ranked prospect in the organization is 2017 7th round pick, Matthew Brassard. Selected after his draft plus one season, the organization mentioned him as a player that they had been tracking in his first year of draft eligibility but ultimately didn’t select him. With Brassard still available in the 7th round this past June, they decided to grab the right-handed defender with the 188th overall selection. I’ve had the opportunity to watch Brassard quite a bit and have been impressed by his play relative to his draft position. Brassard has exploded offensively this season, already setting career highs in goals, assists, and points. This is in large part to be a regular on the top pairing, and if he isn’t there, he is the rock on the second pair. He plays regular powerplay time, penalty kill time, and quite a bit of 5v5 – averaging an estimated time on ice of 17:38 per game. He is ranked 5th among OHL defencemen in goals and 8th in points. The Barrie native is averaging 3.16 shots per game, which is tied for 4th among that same peer group. Brassard finished last season with 6th in SH/GP among OHL defencemen. It’s clear that he likes to shoot. If there was one criticism of his offensive game, it’s that he doesn’t get into higher danger areas enough. 174 of his 180 shots are from low danger and ideally that 96.6% of shots would be lower. Obviously, defencemen will have more low danger shots given their location, but I would like to see him move with the puck more or try to get into the home plate area when possible. An example of this is his goal on February 8th: Given space on the powerplay, he moves towards the net, adjusts the lane, and then scores. This is being nitpicky though as he does possess a good shot and isn’t afraid to just keep firing away. Brassard started the season off slowly, registering only 9 points in his first 24 games of the season. But has taken off since then, picking up 33 PTS (13-20-33) in last 32 games. On the defensive side of the game, Brassard is good at directing attackers to the outside, containing them, and forcing them to move it. There have been times where he has had issues with players who can beat him with speed, Jonathan Ang and Andrei Svechnikov for example, but those are not a regular occurrence. Brassard uses his size (6’2″ and 195 lbs) to his advantage, leaning on opponents in his own zone or pushing them out of the high traffic areas in front. He is willing to get into the corner and make his adversaries work for the puck. His decision making and read of the play is what helps him out in the defensive zone – he just has some issues with skating. The best way to characterize his skating is that he is heavy on his feet. He has a good top speed but lacks acceleration and quick pivoting. When he has time and space to get his feet going, he isn’t bad, it just takes some time to get moving or adjust. It has improved since the start of this season, which is an encouraging sign. Brassard is adept at moving the puck out of the zone efficiently. He has also been an alternate captain for the Generals this season. These flaws to his game are to be expected with a 7th round pick. But his ability to read the play, his shot, and offensive abilities are encouraging. With an analytic look, Brassard rates very well given his size and offensive production this season. With a successful cohort of 18.9%, Brassard presents tremendous value for a player taken in the 7th round. Obviously, quite a few of the players that were successful were nothing more than depth defencemen but having such a high percentage is something to keep an eye on. From a process standpoint, the Canucks selection of Brassard was a savvy dice roll. He didn’t put up huge offensive numbers last year, but had an extremely high shot generation rate and has an NHL frame. Add that he is a right-handed shot and it makes sense why the Canucks targetted him after tracking him for the better part of two seasons. Brassard is benefitting from a strong Oshawa team but is a key contributor to a team that is full of 2018 draft-eligible players. If, and that’s the big if, Brassard can carve out an NHL career, it will be as a depth defender. He will need to improve his skating and ensure that his getting beat by quick skaters is minimized. Brassard will turn 20 in August, which means that if the organization feels he is ready then he would able to go to Utica. If he continues to build on his hot streak and has a good playoff run, I could see the Canucks signing him to an entry level contract and make the leap to the pro ranks next season. Alternatively, he could go unsigned and head back to the OHL for his overage season. No matter what, I liked the selection of Brassard at the time and it’s good to see that he has taken that next step. All 7th round picks are long shots but there is a lot to like about the thought process behind the selection, Brassard as a player, and how he could project in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Brassard with 1 assist and 4 SOG tonight. Now has 43 points (14g 29A) in 58 GP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 It sure seems like he is on the score sheet every night and a lot of multi point games surprised to see he ain’t closer to a point per game guy, did he have a slow start this year? Very excited to see a 7th rounder playing this well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, LegionOfDoom said: It sure seems like he is on the score sheet every night and a lot of multi point games surprised to see he ain’t closer to a point per game guy, did he have a slow start this year? Very excited to see a 7th rounder playing this well Yeah, only 8 assists (and no goals despite a tonne of shots) in his first 24 games. And then around a point per game (and one of the OHL’s top goalscoring Ds) since his slow start. Reportedly was nursing an injury to start the year and it took a while before he felt right and really got going. Edited February 26, 2018 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Fixed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Yeah, only 8 assists (and no goals despite a tonne of shots) in his first 24 games. And then around a point per game (and one of the OHL’s top goalscoring Ds) since his slow start. Repeatedly was nursing an injury to start the year and it took a while before he felt right and really got going. Repeatedly?..Sid, do you mean he was getting drunk every night to deal with the injury?..Or did you mean *reportedly* ? :^) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Repeatedly?..Sid, do you mean he was getting drunk every night to deal with the injury?..Or did you mean *reportedly* ? :^) Lol, my damn phone has been changing words all day! Worse than normal on the autocorrects. Not sure if it’s the new update or the thing’s just being extra annoying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead80 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Wonder what the chances are we sign Brassard. Do we see the Canucks signing him or letting him go the way of Olson and Neill? Would be eligible for Utica next season if management saw fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Brassard sure doesn’t like Nic Hague and the feeling seems to be mutual. Those two have been going at it all game. Rivalry goes back at least to last year when Hague cheap shotted Brassard with a spear to the nuts. Tonight lots of pushing and shoving and gloved punches. Hague threw a flying elbow on one of the Gens and Brassard grabbed Hague and gave him the speedbag treatment. They’ve both been off for unsportsmanlike conduct. Nice to see though. Nic Hague is a big boy (6’6”, 220) and Matt seems more than willing to engage with him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 2018-02-17 at 6:48 AM, Canuck Surfer said: My point was I believe Brassard needs to play against guys his own age and size. If you want him to develop edge, compete, positioning, a first pass under pressure, put him in the AHL? An underated option, rarely seen in N A merican kids, is send him to Europe. He'll have less of the physical play shift by shift. But it is still against men, and he'll still have to go to the corners. And he'll have to open up his skating, learn to handle the puck, use open space. Some items conceivably he would gain confidence doing against younger players as an overager in junior? I just like the Euro option against men better. As much as it is not a route with natural options waiting... The AHL is a good league but many don’t realize that there is a fair amount of talent that stays in Europe that is equal to the AHL talent pool. The bigger ice and added room for skilled players to work makes it a tougher league for defence men IMO. It’s not a bad option and it should be looked at more closely by NHL clubs and NA prospects as a solid development path, a better pay cheque and a cool experience. It worked for Mathews, so why not others! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Brassard with the sweet outlet pass to send Krastenbergs in all alone. 5-4 Gens. Brassard with one primary assist. EDIT: And that holds up as the game winner. Brassard with 1A and 3 SOG tonight. He now has 44 points (14G 30A) in 60 games. Edited March 1, 2018 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Brassard sure doesn’t like Nic Hague and the feeling seems to be mutual. Those two have been going at it all game. Rivalry goes back at least to last year when Hague cheap shotted Brassard with a spear to the nuts. Tonight lots of pushing and shoving and gloved punches. Hague threw a flying elbow on one of the Gens and Brassard grabbed Hague and gave him the speedbag treatment. They’ve both been off for unsportsmanlike conduct. Nice to see though. Nic Hague is a big boy (6’6”, 220) and Matt seems more than willing to engage with him. Brassy, Brass Knuckes Brassard could be the next Bieska! Late rounder that took a while to get there, but turned out good enjoy the that the CDC gets exicited about any defence man drafted in the 5th round. He sounds like a guy that could have done better taking the college route with a longer time for training and development. Always positive to have any serious talk about any lower round pick. EmW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: Brassy, Brass Knuckes Brassard could be the next Bieska! Late rounder that took a while to get there, but turned out good enjoy the that the CDC gets exicited about any defence man drafted in the 5th round. He sounds like a guy that could have done better taking the college route with a longer time for training and development. Always positive to have any serious talk about any lower round pick. EmW He’s not much of a fighter. At least when it comes to really squaring off and going toe to toe. Only two proper fights to his name and he lost both. He’s not afraid to mix it up in the scrums though. But he’s probably gonna need some combat sports training if he’s ever going to earn a nickname like “Brass Knuckles Brassard.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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