[Proposal] Player Target - Travis Sanheim

[Rob_Zepp]

A little bit like Derrick Pouliot, though 2 years younger, he was a highly touted offensive dman in CHL but has not had great NHL success and has seemingly fallen into some disfavour in Philly (coaches/management) while fans seem to think he is getting a rough ride (that is unless Pouliot who was not universally loved by fans it seems).   May perhaps be able to pry away this summer.   Philly seems to like Manning over him (why, I have not a clue) and they have some other good D prospects - but Sanheim has top pairing potential.  It would probably take something considerable to get him but he could be a very nice piece of the puzzle for the Canucks.     

 

Something like Goldobin (who may flourish ala Grabner in the East) as Philly is looking for speed/offense (stated objective coming into 2017-18 and not addressed) and another middling piece - perhaps Gadjovich.   

[I.Am.Ironman]

I wonder if they are open to something around Hutton

[King Heffy]

I really don't want to move Gadjovich.  He's a big part of making this team harder to play against and has huge upside if he's able to produce offensively as a pro.  Would rather see a young defenseman targeted in a Tanev deal.  Foote, Timmins, Bowey would all be good targets if Philly isn't interested in Tanev.

[Undrafted]

I follow the Flyers because I have close friends who live there.  I've heard zero talk that the Flyers are disenchanted with Sanheim at all (nor should they be).  The fact is, he's only 21, which is very young for defencemen and he's still learning the game at the NHL level.  No chance that the Flyers would trade him away.  Pouliot's situation in Pittsburgh is not comparable.

[Phil_314]

Maybe not Sanheim in particular but maybe one of their guys like Morin or Hagg?  Goldobin should also have a step up on guys like Lindblom, Lehtera, etc. on the wings and if he gets a top-9 spot he should be good?  Even Filppula is having a rebound season and he'd be golden if he can play with Couturier or Patrick.

Goldie and maybe a pick for one of their emerging D-men

[Rob_Zepp]

45 minutes ago, Undrafted said:

I follow the Flyers because I have close friends who live there.  I've heard zero talk that the Flyers are disenchanted with Sanheim at all (nor should they be).  The fact is, he's only 21, which is very young for defencemen and he's still learning the game at the NHL level.  No chance that the Flyers would trade him away.  Pouliot's situation in Pittsburgh is not comparable.

Been scratched a lot and comments by GM were that he wasn't sure he was "cut out" to be a Flyer or something similar.   He has been passed on their depth chart by a few it would seem.   I think your friend should talk to mine who lives nearby (Plymouth Meeting) and is about a big a Flyer fan as can exist without being Bobby Clarke.

[Undrafted]

38 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Been scratched a lot and comments by GM were that he wasn't sure he was "cut out" to be a Flyer or something similar.   He has been passed on their depth chart by a few it would seem.   I think your friend should talk to mine who lives nearby (Plymouth Meeting) and is about a big a Flyer fan as can exist without being Bobby Clarke.

LOL, that could probably describe pretty much every Flyer fan.  There's actually a lot of parallels between the Flyers' and Canucks' respective fanbases, especially when it comes to being bipolar with their own players.

 

That said, in all seriousness, being scratched and even being sent down to the farm is par for the course with a 21yo defenceman in his first season playing at the NHL level, especially on a team that has depth at the position.  What I heard was that he was sent down because he wasn't getting an opportunity to play with the big club and he needed playing time.

 

Pouliot is three years older than Sanheim and from PIT's perspective, he wasn't progressing at all--he actually got less NHL games with each successive season in PIT and the organization really did give up on him.  I don't think PHI is anywhere near the same point with Sanheim.  No way the Canucks can get him for a steal as a reclamation project

[Canuck Surfer]

9 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

A little bit like Derrick Pouliot, though 2 years younger, he was a highly touted offensive dman in CHL but has not had great NHL success and has seemingly fallen into some disfavour in Philly (coaches/management) while fans seem to think he is getting a rough ride (that is unless Pouliot who was not universally loved by fans it seems).   May perhaps be able to pry away this summer.   Philly seems to like Manning over him (why, I have not a clue) and they have some other good D prospects - but Sanheim has top pairing potential.  It would probably take something considerable to get him but he could be a very nice piece of the puzzle for the Canucks.     

 

Something like Goldobin (who may flourish ala Grabner in the East) as Philly is looking for speed/offense (stated objective coming into 2017-18 and not addressed) and another middling piece - perhaps Gadjovich.   

I love your target! 

 

I'm not sure its realistic.  But, just maybe...

 

Hextall has forced more than a few prospects through the grind of development. Even at the expense of their best NHL line up being iced, wasting prime years of Giroux, Simmonds, Voracek, etc..? I'm also not aware of disenchantment? But I'm by no means connected?  There is a year left before he is waiver eligible. So Philly can be patient.  True, he did het passed by Hagg as a defensive D. And they like Manning's conbative personality for some reason?  But with Provorov and Ghost to handle primary puck moving and PP responsibilities as LHD, my sense is they just have no need to rush him?  

 

Maybe when they're finally flushed of MacDonald's contract?  And even then they also have LHD Morin (to replace Manning) & Hagg to handle the left side as true defensive specialists. Not that they will add scoring from the back end as would Sanheim? But do they need that... And Travis has not scored in the NHL (why would he, if they give O'zone shifts to Gost & Provy?)? But is nearly a PPG in the AHL.

 

What they REALLY need, with just Radko Gudas as the lone NHL RHD & prospect Phillip Myers their only RHD prospect of note?

 

What they need badly is Chris Tanev? Put that on the table, suddenly Philly has a reason to play turkey!

7 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

Been scratched a lot and comments by GM were that he wasn't sure he was "cut out" to be a Flyer or something similar.   He has been passed on their depth chart by a few it would seem.   I think your friend should talk to mine who lives nearby (Plymouth Meeting) and is about a big a Flyer fan as can exist without being Bobby Clarke.

If I were Sanheim, killing the AHL for the 2knd year in a row? And getting no NHL offensive minutes?? I would not be surprised if he was making waves. And comments by old pro Hextall would just be designed to keep his attitude in check...

 

So add it all up & Hextall has a great asset he does not really need?  And is doing a good job playing poker!

 

Tanev is what they want, need, and it will take to get Sanheim IMO.

 

It would create a HUGE hole for us?  But X&^%!@ could we look good down the LHS of our D in 2 years with;

 

Juolevi _____ (Dahlin, don't win the lotto, go all in on Mike Green or John Carlson, draft Boqvist, Wilde, Bouchard, Dobson)

Sanheim Stecher

Tryamkin Gudbranson

Brisbois Pouliot 

 

That's a good D core!

 

I love your target!

[ForsbergTheGreat]

Sanheim has two years of waiver free eligibility left so it’s not really like puoliot situation. Also if flyers want Goldie they can likely claim him for free next year. 

[Rob_Zepp]

7 hours ago, Undrafted said:

LOL, that could probably describe pretty much every Flyer fan.  There's actually a lot of parallels between the Flyers' and Canucks' respective fanbases, especially when it comes to being bipolar with their own players.

 

That said, in all seriousness, being scratched and even being sent down to the farm is par for the course with a 21yo defenceman in his first season playing at the NHL level, especially on a team that has depth at the position.  What I heard was that he was sent down because he wasn't getting an opportunity to play with the big club and he needed playing time.

 

Pouliot is three years older than Sanheim and from PIT's perspective, he wasn't progressing at all--he actually got less NHL games with each successive season in PIT and the organization really did give up on him.  I don't think PHI is anywhere near the same point with Sanheim.  No way the Canucks can get him for a steal as a reclamation project

Two year difference in draft years.   There is a trend with him that is starting same way trend with DP did.   Let’s see but I think targeting may just get some traction.

[IBatch]

10 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

A little bit like Derrick Pouliot, though 2 years younger, he was a highly touted offensive dman in CHL but has not had great NHL success and has seemingly fallen into some disfavour in Philly (coaches/management) while fans seem to think he is getting a rough ride (that is unless Pouliot who was not universally loved by fans it seems).   May perhaps be able to pry away this summer.   Philly seems to like Manning over him (why, I have not a clue) and they have some other good D prospects - but Sanheim has top pairing potential.  It would probably take something considerable to get him but he could be a very nice piece of the puzzle for the Canucks.     

 

Something like Goldobin (who may flourish ala Grabner in the East) as Philly is looking for speed/offense (stated objective coming into 2017-18 and not addressed) and another middling piece - perhaps Gadjovich.   

Id love the idea of prying Sanheim out of PHI, he stated the season as a can't miss D with big upside.  Also like Hanafin and Slavin in CAR.   Don't know exactly what it would take to get one of these guys, but CAR needs centers so maybe Gaudette could be a main piece in a deal there, and something like your idea for Sanheim.   

[kloubek]

If any team has young D to give up, it's Philly.  I'd love to get Sanheim.  Aren't we pretty filled up on the left side though once Juolevi is on the team, and especially on the event Tryamkin comes back?  

[JM_]

58 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Id love the idea of prying Sanheim out of PHI, he stated the season as a can't miss D with big upside.  Also like Hanafin and Slavin in CAR.   Don't know exactly what it would take to get one of these guys, but CAR needs centers so maybe Gaudette could be a main piece in a deal there, and something like your idea for Sanheim.   

we're not deep enough in top 9 talent to lose Gaudette tho. 

 

LHD so we'd have to move out Hutty either as part of the deal or another one. I wonder i they'd do Hutty for Sanheim and a late pick? PHI and extra 5ths and 7ths. 

[Rob_Zepp]

2 hours ago, IBatch said:

Id love the idea of prying Sanheim out of PHI, he stated the season as a can't miss D with big upside.  Also like Hanafin and Slavin in CAR.   Don't know exactly what it would take to get one of these guys, but CAR needs centers so maybe Gaudette could be a main piece in a deal there, and something like your idea for Sanheim.   

If it took Gaudette and a piece, very worth considering for Sanheim in my opinion.  I think Philly has a core that is a little older and window isn't "forever" even with their good young guns too so depends if they want to stay 'in the mix' or make a run.  Tanev would interest them but seemingly they want more offense (or at least Hextall says they do).

[Rob_Zepp]

1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

we're not deep enough in top 9 talent to lose Gaudette tho. 

 

LHD so we'd have to move out Hutty either as part of the deal or another one. I wonder i they'd do Hutty for Sanheim and a late pick? PHI and extra 5ths and 7ths. 

Doubt that gets it done but start with that if you make the call.   Point is, I would make the call and test the waters as they have a potential logjam and the kid is a stud.

[Noble 6]

Tanev to the Flyers makes a lot of sense. Their only RHD is Gudas. To be honest, I'd rather target some of their picks (they have 2 1st rounders) instead. I can't see them giving away Sanheim for cheap.

[IBatch]

2 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

If it took Gaudette and a piece, very worth considering for Sanheim in my opinion.  I think Philly has a core that is a little older and window isn't "forever" even with their good young guns too so depends if they want to stay 'in the mix' or make a run.  Tanev would interest them but seemingly they want more offense (or at least Hextall says they do).

At this point Tanev would be a huge gain for PHI, that trade makes sense for both clubs.  Provorov and Ghost could use someone like Tanev to help with match ups.  

[Blömqvist]

3 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

If it took Gaudette and a piece, very worth considering for Sanheim in my opinion.  I think Philly has a core that is a little older and window isn't "forever" even with their good young guns too so depends if they want to stay 'in the mix' or make a run.  Tanev would interest them but seemingly they want more offense (or at least Hextall says they do).

 

2 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

Tanev to the Flyers makes a lot of sense. Their only RHD is Gudas. To be honest, I'd rather target some of their picks (they have 2 1st rounders) instead. I can't see them giving away Sanheim for cheap.

 

51 minutes ago, IBatch said:

At this point Tanev would be a huge gain for PHI, that trade makes sense for both clubs.  Provorov and Ghost could use someone like Tanev to help with match ups.  

 

Tanev and Goldobin for Sanheim and a pick?

[Noble 6]

33 minutes ago, Blömqvist said:

 

 

 

Tanev and Goldobin for Sanheim and a pick?

 

Maybe we take Lehtera off their hands to slightly enhance our return:

 

To PHI:

 

Tanev

Goldobin

 

To VAN:

 

Lehtera

1st 2018 (PHI)

1st 2019 (top-10 protected)

[IBatch]

1 hour ago, Blömqvist said:

 

 

 

Tanev and Goldobin for Sanheim and a pick?

The more I read the replies, the more PHI as a trading partner makes sense.  Earlier this year is was hoping VAN could do something to pry Theodore out of Vegas, Sanheim is an equally good target with more logical trades available.  Benning better have someone looking at these forums and make this happen ha ha.