Blue Jay 22 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, khay said: Sounds reasonable regarding Houston sustaining a hockey team. But moving Arizona to the East? Do you mean relocate to an eastern city or just place the team in Eastern conference? If the latter, I don't think that's a good idea. If relocating to an Eastern city, then one of the central eastern teams like Detroit or Columbus can move back to the Western conference to have 16 teams on each conference. Move Arizona as in move them to an East Coast city like Quebec City or something. That's in a hypothetical scenario that the NHL wants to move the franchise. It would be too hard travel wise to just shift them to the Eastern Conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Arizona makes the most sense, most people just want them moved and likely wouldn't give a damn which division they played in. If you've got a choice between breaking up a traditional and heated rivalry in Edmonton/Calgary vs moving Arizona it makes a lot more sense to move Arizona. Hell, they don't even really have any rivals in our division. Let the Cali teams duke it out and let the Canucks duke it out with the Alberta teams and their natural rival in Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Move Arizona, the writings on the wall for them anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Canucks Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: Arizona makes the most sense, most people just want them moved and likely wouldn't give a damn which division they played in. If you've got a choice between breaking up a traditional and heated rivalry in Edmonton/Calgary vs moving Arizona it makes a lot more sense to move Arizona. Hell, they don't even really have any rivals in our division. Let the Cali teams duke it out and let the Canucks duke it out with the Alberta teams and their natural rival in Seattle. They wouldn't split up the Alberta teams. They'd just move them both over and bring Colorado over to the Pacific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Honestly, having Seattle in the Pacific sets up Arizona for a potential move to Houston. Houston and Dallas would become natural rivals in the Lone Star state and it makes sense for the divisional lineup, if that move happens, for the Central Division. I know Houston has been a place that was talked about in a potential Carolina Hurricanes move (but now that they have a new owner that isn't likely to move them... now, though he could easily try and move them in a few years ala the Vancouver Grizzlies moving to Memphis). Just a theory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Coconuts said: Arizona makes the most sense, most people just want them moved and likely wouldn't give a damn which division they played in. If you've got a choice between breaking up a traditional and heated rivalry in Edmonton/Calgary vs moving Arizona it makes a lot more sense to move Arizona. Hell, they don't even really have any rivals in our division. Let the Cali teams duke it out and let the Canucks duke it out with the Alberta teams and their natural rival in Seattle. 2 hour time difference to the rest of the division during daylight saving is the issue. They were mindful of time zones last re-alignement. 7pm 8pm 9pm Arizona Colorado CHI, DAL, MIN, NSH, STL 7pm 8pm LA, ANA, SJS, VGK, Seattle Edmonton, Calgary To have at most a 1 hour difference - Arizona should stay in the Pacific with Edmonton/Calgary switching spots with Colorado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, mll said: 2 hour time difference to the rest of the division during daylight saving is the issue. They were mindful of time zones last re-alignement. 7pm 8pm 9pm Arizona Colorado CHI, DAL, MIN, NSH, STL 7pm 8pm LA, ANA, SJS, VGK, Seattle Edmonton, Calgary To have at most a 1 hour difference - Arizona should stay in the Pacific with Edmonton/Calgary switching spots with Colorado. The time wasted on travel vs an hour difference is not comparable imo. Arizona just makes too much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 hours ago, MikeyBoy44 said: The time wasted on travel vs an hour difference is not comparable imo. Arizona just makes too much sense. It's also about viewership re revenue. Fans are less likely to watch games when they start 2 hours later vs just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 11 hours ago, mll said: It's also about viewership re revenue. Fans are less likely to watch games when they start 2 hours later vs just one. Arizona would fall under your "8pm" slot for the bulk of a season as well. Arizona still makes too much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, MikeyBoy44 said: Arizona would fall under your "8pm" slot for the bulk of a season as well. Arizona still makes too much sense. It would never be a 2 hour difference in the same division. Edmonton, Calgary, Colorado, Arizona all use mountain time - it's the same time in the winter months. Unlike the others Arizona does not use daylight saving which leads to this 2 hour difference in those months with the rest of the Central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, mll said: It would never be a 2 hour difference in the same division. Edmonton, Calgary, Colorado, Arizona all use mountain time - it's the same time in the winter months. Unlike the others Arizona does not use daylight saving which leads to this 2 hour difference in those months with the rest of the Central. I dunno man if I'm a gm I'd be fighting for better travel over a small timezone difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 57 minutes ago, MikeyBoy44 said: I dunno man if I'm a gm I'd be fighting for better travel over a small timezone difference. It's closer for Anaheim, LA, San Jose and Vegas to travel to Arizona than to Edmonton. Calgary is closer to Winnipeg than Arizona. They are going to have to balance the interests of all the teams. It's the playoff months where there is the 2 hour difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Move Vancouver to the Atlantic division, cause our travel isn't bad enough as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:46 PM, Rush17 said: With the pending Seattle franchise confirmation. One of the teams in the Pacific division would likely have to be shifted to bring balance to the division team totals. The most likely candidate would be the Arizona Coyotes. geographically speaking Edmonton or Calgary would be the closest to the central division as a whole. But Given the rivalry between the Alberta franchises, it makes little to no sense to move them. Vegas could be argued as another option given they are somewhat inland but the rivalry they are trying to build with the close by California teams make zero sense for them. This leaves Arizona as the most likely team to be shifted to the central division. After all, ARZ is close to the Dallas Stars. If this is going to happen. How do you guys feel this will help our squad and division? and how it will impact the other teams in the central? (Pacific would have 7 teams and Central 5 unless one moved) Pacific Divison would likely shape out: Vancouver Canucks Calgary Flames Edmonton Oilers Seattle Franchise San Jose Sharks Vegas Golden Knights Anaheim Ducks Los Angeles Kings Central Divison would likely shape out: Winnipeg Jets Minnesota Wild Chicago Blackhawks St Louis Blues Colorado Avalanche Nashville Predators Arizona Coyotes Dallas Stars Tell me what you guys think~ Curious if anyone has any alternative thoughts of who may go if not ARZ. :D Thanks folks! Here is current alignment map from the Vegas Expansion. Edit: Added photos for easier digesting of information. This map is wrong, there is no pipeline from Alberta to BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:46 PM, Rush17 said: With the pending Seattle franchise confirmation. One of the teams in the Pacific division would likely have to be shifted to bring balance to the division team totals. The most likely candidate would be the Arizona Coyotes. geographically speaking Edmonton or Calgary would be the closest to the central division as a whole. But Given the rivalry between the Alberta franchises, it makes little to no sense to move them. Vegas could be argued as another option given they are somewhat inland but the rivalry they are trying to build with the close by California teams make zero sense for them. This leaves Arizona as the most likely team to be shifted to the central division. After all, ARZ is close to the Dallas Stars. If this is going to happen. How do you guys feel this will help our squad and division? and how it will impact the other teams in the central? (Pacific would have 7 teams and Central 5 unless one moved) Pacific Divison would likely shape out: Vancouver Canucks Calgary Flames Edmonton Oilers Seattle Franchise San Jose Sharks Vegas Golden Knights Anaheim Ducks Los Angeles Kings Central Divison would likely shape out: Winnipeg Jets Minnesota Wild Chicago Blackhawks St Louis Blues Colorado Avalanche Nashville Predators Arizona Coyotes Dallas Stars Tell me what you guys think~ Curious if anyone has any alternative thoughts of who may go if not ARZ. :D Thanks folks! Here is current alignment map from the Vegas Expansion. Edit: Added photos for easier digesting of information. Calgary moving franchise to Quebec City solves the balance issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson-JH Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Also, Arizona is geographically closer to the Central than it is for Calgary and Edmonton... It is a 6 hours drive to Vegas and LA to get to Phoenix due to lack of Interstate access (which they are currently working on building it)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theinfamoust94 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 4:46 PM, Rush17 said: With the pending Seattle franchise confirmation. One of the teams in the Pacific division would likely have to be shifted to bring balance to the division team totals. The most likely candidate would be the Arizona Coyotes. geographically speaking Edmonton or Calgary would be the closest to the central division as a whole. But Given the rivalry between the Alberta franchises, it makes little to no sense to move them. Vegas could be argued as another option given they are somewhat inland but the rivalry they are trying to build with the close by California teams make zero sense for them. This leaves Arizona as the most likely team to be shifted to the central division. After all, ARZ is close to the Dallas Stars. If this is going to happen. How do you guys feel this will help our squad and division? and how it will impact the other teams in the central? (Pacific would have 7 teams and Central 5 unless one moved) Pacific Divison would likely shape out: Vancouver Canucks Calgary Flames Edmonton Oilers Seattle Franchise San Jose Sharks Vegas Golden Knights Anaheim Ducks Los Angeles Kings Central Divison would likely shape out: Winnipeg Jets Minnesota Wild Chicago Blackhawks St Louis Blues Colorado Avalanche Nashville Predators Arizona Coyotes Dallas Stars Tell me what you guys think~ Curious if anyone has any alternative thoughts of who may go if not ARZ. :D Thanks folks! Here is current alignment map from the Vegas Expansion. Edit: Added photos for easier digesting of information. Assuming Quebec city doesn't get a franchise or any other teams out east, it seems that it would make more sense if Florida and Tampa were in the metro and Columbus and Pittsburgh were in the Atlantic. Keep the Metro along the coast and rename that to the Atlantic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 6:16 PM, -Vintage Canuck- said: I know it's easier said than done, but I would love to see this happen sometime in the future: Expansion to Seattle Relocate Carolina to Houston Relocate Arizona to Quebec City Bonus: Go back to the old Division names This would be perfect. Lol for a second there I thought you were proposing a underground hyperloop lines for inter-division travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Woops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 The only thing I would like to see NHL to scrap 2 conference format and make it 8-team, 4 conferences and split divisions of 4 teams within and schedule matrix would be like this: 6 divisional games vs 3 teams, 4 conference games vs 4 teams and 2 inter-league games vs 24 teams for a perfect 82-games schedule. With that set-up, the Canucks would not have to fly back and forth to Central division teams twice a year and it becomes once a year. Their total air miles travel would go down dramatically from 45,000 miles to under 39,500-40,000 miles range and less time zone changes per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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