[PGT] Minnesota Wild at Vancouver Canucks | Dec. 04, 2018

[DefCon1 786]

4 minutes ago, Kushman said:

I'm on board with BOBROVSKY! so long as Jay Onrait and Dan O'toole have to do our game highlights as part of the deal.

I wouldn't mind him if he was asking for 6 million, but he probably wants 10 million. I don't see how a goalie would be worth 10 million.

[Pete M 1,913]

10 minutes ago, 6string said:

In two years how many of the curretn D will be in the lineup...maybe 1!

Yeah, but JB needs to make wise and smart signings to compliment the prospects (draft picks) to be a winning team, or the window will close before it opens with this group.

Juolevi, Hughes, Tryamkin, Woo are a good starting point for drafting, but they need some good dmen signings to compliment them...no more placeholders.

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3 minutes ago, PrinceGeorgeGoon said:

The goalie is the last piece to worry about. We dont have a #1 Left wing for that matter a #2 left wing. We dont have a top Defence Pairing, We dont have a #2 Right wing. Center looks good (dusts off hands) "there got that done." Killing it Benning.

Horvat will be out of his peak before this rebuild is a contender.

Buckle up, optimists... 

 

I should ad, goalies matter.

Look at Philly or St Louis even. I’d say it is probably your most important position to solidly if you don’t have a Pens or 80’s Oilers roster. 

Edited December 5, 2018 by 189lb enforcers?

[DefCon1 786]

Just now, Mustapha said:

Man  the 650 radio station is insufferable.

 

Just a bunch of apologists.

 

The Canucks are the only team right now with a 1-8-1 record in their last ten. EVERY other team is winning more.

 

Nobody expected this team to be contenders. But dead last with no hope of winning? Come on.

 

"But they are good 5 on 5"

 

Special teams are part of the game. If you don't kill your penalties (after taking a bunch of bonehead penalties) you lose. Sorry.

 

 

Every analyst expected them to be dead last except Canucks fan...that is a fact. In fact, everyone was surprised how good we were at the beginning but its the same old pattern. Elias Pettersson has been great but he can't help us win with crappy goalie and defense. 

[Nuxfanabroad 10,700]

Tonite Bobrovsky gives up EIGHT on about 25 shots! Nah..pass

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58 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Not sure the team is hard to play against right now. Hard to watch, maybe.

 

Sorry Travis, you're going to have to let your team get some penalties for actually roughing up the other team. 

 

He wants the team to be hard to play against.  The team doesn't seem willing to up the physical game.  

Several of these grit guys went through significant injuries and might not really see the point in upping the physicality in a losing season. 

 

[RU SERIOUS 328]

We've now technically slipped to 26th but in reality all the teams behind us have between 2 and 5 games in hand and just few points behind us.  So we are almost 100% guaranteed last spot in the basement by Thursday next week and a good chance at first pick.  Fingers crossed !!!! 

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5 minutes ago, DefCon1 said:

well, they can't be traded now, because if we traded them, Pouliot and Del Zotto would be playing top pair on our team. Can you imagine that? Its like throwing the games away. 

It is a shame that Tryamkin was a bit of a headcase, he may have been one of our best defenseman right now.

[Mustapha 2,887]

Just now, Nuxfanabroad said:

Tonite Bobrovsky gives up EIGHT on about 25 shots! Nah..pass

If you watched that game you know it was crazy. Not to mention Calgary gave up 6 and still won. Calgary has been involved in a ton of high scoring games with good teams.

[-Vintage Canuck- 50,918]

POSTGAME | Travis Green

 

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1 hour ago, Great Granny said:

He had a fair shake. He said he could turn the team around quick. He was dead wrong. Linden is smoking a cigar in his recliner laughing hysterically right now.

You have really misjudged Lindens character.

 

says a fair bit about you.

[DefCon1 786]

2 minutes ago, Pete M said:

Yeah, but JB needs to make wise and smart signings to compliment the prospects (draft picks) to be a winning team, or the window will close before it opens with this group.

Juolevi, Hughes, Tryamkin, Woo are a good starting point for drafting, but they need some good dmen signings to compliment them...no more placeholders.

I keep wondering why Benning is spending a lot on bottom pairing D and bottom 6 forwards? I mean, we don't have anyone in the AHL that could fill those spots that we need to sign players like schaller, Beagle, Roussel etc. If we combine those salaries, we could've had a james neal or maybe a skinner or some other top 6 forward to complement horvat or EP. Problem is Benning is probably thinking that we can draft all the top 6 forward and all the top pairing D when in reality thats not how you build a team. You draft star players but you sign or do trades to supplement that. Not just to throw cap money on guys who are great on the 4th line. Look at how Toronto has depth, to the point that their 4th liner is being used on our top line.  

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Just now, Mustapha said:

If you watched that game you know it was crazy. Not to mention Calgary gave up 6 and still won. Calgary has been involved in a ton of high scoring games with good teams.

More & more I feel goaltender numbers are a reflection of the team D, moreso than their comparative abilities. So many teams now doing the side to side, pass/snipe, where you can't even really blame 'tenders.

 

Don't feel our 2 are as bad as their numbers say.

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1 minute ago, RU SERIOUS said:

We've now technically slipped to 26th but in reality all the teams behind us have between 2 and 5 games in hand and just few points behind us.  So we are almost 100% guaranteed last spot in the basement by Thursday next week and a good chance at first pick.  Fingers crossed !!!! 

I saw you taking flak for stating that a few weeks back when they were leading the division. Hate-facts. 

Cape straight-back, sir.

Keep on bringing reality into the discussion so it’s not so much like kumboyah time in here! 

 

[Mustapha 2,887]

2 minutes ago, DefCon1 said:

Every analyst expected them to be dead last except Canucks fan...that is a fact. In fact, everyone was surprised how good we were at the beginning but its the same old pattern. Elias Pettersson has been great but he can't help us win with crappy goalie and defense. 

Crappy goalie and defense wasn't the reason they gave up 3 PP goals. This team is where it is because of bad habits and poor attention to detail.

 

Not to mention players coasting (Eriksson) while contributing nothing.

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23 minutes ago, cory40 said:

"Soccer is for girls and Euro's".  ....Don Cherry

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Just now, RU SERIOUS said:

"Soccer is for girls and Euro's".  ....Don Cherry

I was going off the principal...LOL

[Mustapha 2,887]

1 minute ago, Nuxfanabroad said:

More & more I feel goaltender numbers are a reflection of the team D, moreso than their comparative abilities. So many teams now doing the side to side, pass/snipe, where you can't even really blame 'tenders.

 

Don't feel our 2 are as bad as their numbers say.

I don't like Markstrom that much, but this season I think he's been OK. It's just the bonehead plays in the D zone, and as much as people want to use the 'our D isn't that good' excuse, I can't help but think that these guys could be coached a lot better. We already tried this rookie coach thing with Desjardins. We will see about Green. Management says he's not going anywhere, but if 1 win in 12 games becomes 1 win in 20...21...22 games, there will be more pressure, even on this 'rebuilding' team. 

 

Somewhere along the line they have to learn how to win.

[Dumb Nuck 619]

1 hour ago, timmylu1 said:

Travis green is a great coach and I truly hope he survives this rebuild. He can’t help this tire fire of a defence. Also I’m over the Hughes banter. Canucks will probably finish dead last and still pick 5. Nothing new to see here. 

Great coaches don't lose 12/13.

Edited December 5, 2018 by Dumb Nuck

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8 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said:

Tonite Bobrovsky gives up EIGHT on about 25 shots! Nah..pass