DeNiro Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 staal a third line center, not gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieCrumbs Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I don't think Ballard is going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauer1337 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ballard and a first for weber?!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauer1337 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ballard and a first for weber?!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 He's good enough to be a first line centre though, that's the thing. Edler for Staal is actually a pretty fair trade for both teams. Both of them are on the last year of their contracts and both have reasonable cap hits. Sedin Sedin Burrows Booth Staal Kesler Hamhuis Bieksa Suter Salo Ballard Tanev Definitely solves our second line problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shea Weber Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Keep him! He was your best Dmen all playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxin07 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 ^ which is why they were out in 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 to Buffalo- Keith Ballard and an apology letter to Christian Ehrhoff to Vancouver- Christian Ehrhoff well..we can dream anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead53 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Well he did play better than most (if not all) of our D-man in the playoffs. I guess its all about second/third chances. I'd say keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gill17 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 People keep talking about coach v not trusting him The last two games he was one of the dman with 18 plus minutes in ice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 How many players do we have to trade before we don't have our designated minimum of roster players sitting in the pressbox in place of "gritty" scrubs because of our coach's love/hate relationship with players that happen to fit/unfit perfectly with his definition of what a player is supposed to be? I SUPPOSE we could trade him for some fourth liners. It would at least make the coach happy. Not sure how that became the team's number one priority..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 the canucks need to resolve the ballard situation.he is paid 4.5 mill to sit in the press box or be on the 3rd pair.gillis needs to do something.any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ballard had a good 5 games. Whopee. He still wasn't out against the Kings top line consistently (Hamhuis and Bieksa did that). IMO, our 4 best defencemen are : Hamhuis, Bieksa, Edler and Salo. They are all better than Ballard. Hamhuis and Bieksa are not going anywhere and i think we should keep Edler- he may or may not end up as an elite & consistent defenceman, but IMO, he is going to be consistently in the top 15 of the league overall and if we can sign him long term to 4.5-4.75 million range, it'd be worth it. Which means, Ballard is out of luck. We cannot, i repeat, cannot, afford a 3rd pairing defenceman for 4 million +. What we need, is a big body stay at home defenceman for Edler, preferrably a right shot and Salo to perhaps come back for a year or two. IMO, Salo-Tanev/Rome/Alberts/Gragnani is quite a good 3rd pairing, especially with Salo's servicability anchoring our 2nd unit PP. This means, Ballard needs to get traded. As some have noted above, Ballard's high cap hit and lack of bona-fide minutes the last couple of seasons means he is a low value trade. Therefore, he must be packaged- IMO, package Ballard, Booth and Raymond's rights for high draft picks and a decent 2nd line winger/Edler's partner type player. Ballard and Booth are both suited better for east coast hockey and will fetch good value if packaged together, as they instantly help limping teams (such as the Islanders). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 why would we send him an apology letter when he wanted 10million dollars the first year and he htought that buffalo had a chance to win the stanley cup - HE SHOULD BE WRITING US THE APOLOGY LETTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 For whatever reason, he's just not working. Surely there'll be a team out there needs a veteran d-man and has lots of cap room, hopefully we could get a 3rd-rounder for him or something at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 to Buffalo- Keith Ballard and an apology letter to Christian Ehrhoff to Vancouver- Christian Ehrhoff well..we can dream anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 If gillis doesn't fire AV then he better trade Ballard, because AV has never given Ballard the benefit of the doubt and will not give him a fair shot at the top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 First, even if Lidstrom does sign, Detroit has enough cap space & money to sign Suter. 2knd, you can say get over it but Bertuzzi still has a lawsuit pending where he expects the Canucks to pay his tab. Guaranteed he's not being signed while he is suing us! IF Lidstrom doesn't sign for another season with Det. And that's a big 'If' in my opinion. Then they are going to be looking for D-man that can quarterback a power-play and has good speed and poise with the puck. Ballard could look like a cheap, and potentially very effective, option. Granted they do have Kyle Quincey and Brendan Smith on the NHL roster, both of whom have decent offensive potential, however neither look to be ready to replace the 34 points and +21 that Lidstrom produced last year while playing almost 24 minutes per game. They also have Logan Pyett in Grand Rapids but again he is years from that kind of NHL production - if he ever gets there. However all three of these internal options look to be shaky at best and Ken Holland is not one to risk rushing a player into the NHL. Ballard has proven that with top minutes and the right partner he can produce upwards of 35 points. And he would come cheap, Gillis would be out of his mind to ask for anything more than a 3rd liner, 5th-6th dman, or 2nd pick (not together completely separate) and with Tatar ripping up the AHL already they will most likely be looking to make room for him in the top 6. And who you ask would they ever give us that would help us win now while also hopefully freeing up salary cap room? How about Mr. Todd Bertuzzi? 2.075 million cap hit through 2014 For 4.2 million cap hit through 2015 and we throw in a 5th rounder (probably a 80 point player in 4 yrs the way DET drafts) Has about the same risk for both sides and no I am not saying Ballard is going to DET to be the next Lidstrom but he would bring a bit more offense from the back end than their current roster minus Liddy. Bertuzzi would be a great fit back in Van IMO - a natural RW which would help us with that problem of always having someone on the right who is a natural LW, Booth and Higgins looked decent but it was obvious how much better they played when on the left side. Also Bertuzzi would bring a ton more offense and grit than someone like Raymond and would be a great leader in the room and on the ice. Not to mention the fact that Bertuzzi is a heart and soul player who is always the first to step up and defend his teammates. BIG BERT for BALLARD + 5th rd. MAKE IT HAPPEN MG! cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACIC Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ballard ,raymond and a bag of pucks for Ryan suter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 How do you think that them TRADING Allen and letting the others walk when their time was up has anything to do with the Moore incident? Have you seen this: That incident was a horrible mistake and the sole bad mark on his career, it's in the past and people need to get over it. Moore took out our captain and Bertuzzi's great friend with a cheap shot that could have ended Naslund's career, I do not condone what bert did but he had years of great production and success in van but all of that apparently means nothing to you because he did one irrational emotional retaliatory thing. And what could be better for Kassian than playing with his Idol? it would do nothing but show him how to be a real NHL power forward and stick up for teammates legally; Bertuzzi VS Weber comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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