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34 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Interesting.  And we wonder why we have a societal problem with men objectifying and abusing women.  I doubt a girl’s first choice  is this type of work.  

Go to school and/or work hard and you can make something of yourself.  If you don't do that, all you have to sell is yourself.  Whether it is your physical labour and/or your body.

 

It may not be a person's first choice, but it is a choice.  If you make that choice, you must take responsibility for it.

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12 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

Go to school and/or work hard and you can make something of yourself.  If you don't do that, all you have to sell is yourself.  Whether it is your physical labour and/or your body.

 

It may not be a person's first choice, but it is a choice.  If you make that choice, you must take responsibility for it.

You can go to school and work hard and still not make what some of these girls make. Not even escorts, just stripping alone. At a stag the best man hired a couple girls from beachbunnies and the girls made 2k each .. they were there for like 2 or 3 hours...

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This is what rich billionaires do. Look at the Edmonton Oilers owner who tried to pay a monthly salary to a woman to have sex with her, and she had a bf. What matters here is did he coerce a young girl into doing sexual things or did he simply agree to pay. If he coerced, it will be a big problem. if he didn't, then no one will really care.

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20 minutes ago, peaches5 said:

This is what rich billionaires do. Look at the Edmonton Oilers owner who tried to pay a monthly salary to a woman to have sex with her, and she had a bf. What matters here is did he coerce a young girl into doing sexual things or did he simply agree to pay. If he coerced, it will be a big problem. if he didn't, then no one will really care.

It's the Patriots owner. This will fund ESPN for the next 30 days. 

 

 

Unless it comes out someone in the NBA was a part of it. Any government people involved will be swept under the rug. 

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Just now, Chip Kelly said:

Feel like they should lose one for this since Belichick was probably stealing McVay's hand signals in the Super Bowl.

McVay deserved to lose that game. He didn't change the gameplan at all...  It was terrible coaching. If they changed things up to start the second half I am sure they would have won.

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1 minute ago, peaches5 said:

McVay deserved to lose that game. He didn't change the gameplan at all...  It was terrible coaching. If they changed things up to start the second half I am sure they would have won.

Gurley not being healthy really through them off. He was by all accounts supposed to have a big role when game planning for the Super Bowl.

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Just now, Chip Kelly said:

Gurley not being healthy really through them off. He was by all accounts supposed to have a big role when game planning for the Super Bowl.

That again is poor coaching to have all yours play rely on one guy? Maybe he didn't trust Goff and didn't think he could handle too many plays. That is the only thing that would make sense.

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2 hours ago, NucksPatsFan said:

You can go to school and work hard and still not make what some of these girls make. Not even escorts, just stripping alone. At a stag the best man hired a couple girls from beachbunnies and the girls made 2k each .. they were there for like 2 or 3 hours...

That wasn't the point I was trying to make.  Alf was pitying those girls.  I was explaining to him that they had other choices.

 

There are people that pity porn stars.  I don't.  You want to make a few grand for an afternoon of sex rather than go to school.  That's your choice.

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2 hours ago, NucksPatsFan said:

You can go to school and work hard and still not make what some of these girls make. Not even escorts, just stripping alone. At a stag the best man hired a couple girls from beachbunnies and the girls made 2k each .. they were there for like 2 or 3 hours...

And what message does this type of interaction for money send to men?  It’s a free society, and people can do as they please, within the law.  However, just because a particular “job” earns a lot of money, doesn’t make it good.  I think people will justify what they are currently doing, even though they feel it’s wrong, with excuses - like the pay is great.  If the pay wasn’t so lucrative would they be doing that?  Likely not.  

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5 minutes ago, Alflives said:

And what message does this type of interaction for money send to men?  It’s a free society, and people can do as they please, within the law.  However, just because a particular “job” earns a lot of money, doesn’t make it good.  I think people will justify what they are currently doing, even though they feel it’s wrong, with excuses - like the pay is great.  If the pay wasn’t so lucrative would they be doing that?  Likely not.  

They don't care what message they're sending to men when they're driving around in their paid for G-wagons to their daily massage and yoga sessions. They're trading opening their legs for living the glamorous life. And for a lot of them, their "work" isn't all that "gross" in the sense they're being wined and dined in fancy high quality restaurants and spreading their legs in hotel rooms that cost over a grand a night. 

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8 hours ago, SabreFan1 said:

That wasn't the point I was trying to make.  Alf was pitying those girls.  I was explaining to him that they had other choices.

 

There are people that pity porn stars.  I don't.  You want to make a few grand for an afternoon of sex rather than go to school.  That's your choice.

The rub is that these girls use porn, stripping, amateur "lingerie modelling" etc  because it pays more, and is easier work then having to bust their ass at an honest job, like a typical waitress working long hours for tips.

 

How many girls would say yes to sending pictures of their feet to some fetish site,for a couple hundred bucks, when they want or need to make a few extra bucks?

 

A couple hundred bucks to help pay rent, buy food, clothes, or whatever when they want to.

 

Is it immoral behavior? Probably. Is it illegal though? Not unless girls are underaged or coerced in a form of online bullying or blackmail.

 

Sugar daddies are a big thing now too apparently. Rich and lonely desperate guys,mostly old dudes, pay big money just to have some young eye candy to flaunt on their arm in public.

 

As for feeling bad for these girls..well some come from legit bad homes, daddy issues, sexually abused at a young age.

 

Many lost their virginity at a very young age before they were fully mentally and emotionally prepared.

 

So in some cases you might feel bad.

 

Overall it is what it is I guess.

 

@debluvscanucks once made a comment about knowing someone who stripped to pay their way through school.

 

She basically argued that a traditional model was still selling her body and that it was no different than stripping.

 

@Alflives

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