Hamhuis2 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Not sure how Jaden Schwartz is a bust, did he not captain Canada at the last WJC? He will be on their team, probably in a top-6 role, if the season resumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Imagine if every years draft was done this way. It actually wouldn't be too bad, since garbage teams wouldn't be rewarded with stanley cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemy Time Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 We've had few more too, that just weren't with us for long. Hodgson, Grabner, Neely just to name few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 So agreed. You're tempting me to find and bump my old thread on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Sedins were 99, Nathan Smith was 2000. So we drafted 2 busts 12 drafts. How do we compare to similar teams? Nashville - 2 busts (Finley, Parent) St. Louis - 3 busts (Schwarz, Taffe, Belle) LA - 4 busts (Hickey, Lewis, Tukonen, Karlsson ) Boston - 4 busts (Hamill, Lashoff, Toivonen, Jonsson) San Jose - 4 busts (Wishart, Kaspar, Morris, Jilsson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Sedins were 99, Nathan Smith was 2000. So we drafted 2 busts 12 drafts. How do we compare to similar teams? Nashville - 2 busts (Finley, Parent) St. Louis - 3 busts (Schwarz, Taffe, Belle) LA - 4 busts (Hickey, Lewis, Tukonen, Karlsson ) Boston - 4 busts (Hamill, Lashoff, Toivonen, Jonsson) San Jose - 4 busts (Wishart, Kaspar, Morris, Jilsson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Errr Marek SCHWARZ not Jaden SCHWARTZ. The Marek Schwarz who bounced between the ECHL and AHL before going to the Czech Republic and skipping a few seasons. 17th overall in 2004. Next goalie picked was Cory Schneider. I am surprised nobody figured that out, I guess the flame wagon looked too fun. Trevor Lewis is borderline, at least he made the NHL and is a solid checking line player but 7 goals over 155 games for a 17th overall pick isn't spectacular. I debated putting him on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 It would be nice for a change if they just put all 30 balls into the machine and gave everyone equal chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Just wondering if there is no season will everyone in the NHL have a shot at the #1 pick. I believe thats how Pittsburgh got Crosby. That would be deadly if canucks get a shot at a # 1 pick because we have never picked #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 with the 2005 lottery rules in effect this is how it would go: Each team begins with three balls in the lottery barrel. For every playoff appearance in the last three years or No. 1 overall pick over the last four years, a team loses one ball. 3 ball teams CALGARY DALLAS TORONTO COLUMBUS WINNIPEG CAROLINA MINNESOTA 2 ball teams NY ISLANDERS ANAHEIM COLORADO ST. LOUIS TAMPA BAY FLORIDA 1 ball teams EDMONTON PITTSBURGH PHILADELPHIA BOSTON WASHINGTON NY RANGERS VANCOUVER SAN JOSE DETROIT NASHVILLE PHOENIX LOS ANGELES CHICAGO NEW JERSEY BUFFALO OTTAWA MONTRÉAL That means we'd have a 1 in 50 (2%) chance to get 1st overall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancanfan Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 A chance? Yes A hope in hell? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamedreamer Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Poor choices? LOL Looking at our 1st round picks since 2000, our track record looks pretty great. 2000 - Nathan Smith (BUST) 2001 - RJ Umberger (6 time 20 goal scorer, but did not develop with VAN) 2002 - No 1st Rounder 2003 - Ryan Kesler (2nd line centre Selke winner) 2004 - Cory Schneider (One of the best young goaltenders in the league) 2005 - Luc Bourdon (Would have been a top 4 defender had the tragic accident not happened, RIP) 2006 - Michael Grabner (Developed with VAN, but wasn't in proper shape, this was admitted by Grabner himself) 2007 - Patrick White (BUST) 2008 - Cody Hodgson (Developed by VAN, traded due to drama issues, got a top power forward prospect in return) 2009 - Jordan Schroeder (Ranked as a top 5 North American prospect, should have been a steal at 22) 2010 - No 1st Rounder 2011 - Nicklas Jensen (Leading scorer on SEL team) 2012 - Brendan Gaunce (One of the draft's most NHL ready prospects, lots of defensive potential) Man, our first round drafting and development just SUCKSSSSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 with the 2005 lottery rules in effect this is how it would go: Each team begins with three balls in the lottery barrel. For every playoff appearance in the last three years or No. 1 overall pick over the last four years, a team loses one ball. 3 ball teams CALGARY DALLAS TORONTO COLUMBUS WINNIPEG CAROLINA MINNESOTA 2 ball teams NY ISLANDERS ANAHEIM COLORADO ST. LOUIS TAMPA BAY FLORIDA 1 ball teams EDMONTON PITTSBURGH PHILADELPHIA BOSTON WASHINGTON NY RANGERS VANCOUVER SAN JOSE DETROIT NASHVILLE PHOENIX LOS ANGELES CHICAGO NEW JERSEY BUFFALO OTTAWA MONTRÉAL That means we'd have a 1 in 50 (2%) chance to get 1st overall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane42 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I just hope we take a real scorer with wherever we're picking. Supposed to be be a deeper draft for forwards and heaven knows we need elite scoring prospects. Not aiming for the sky here, but better than PPG in the CHL during and following the draft year would be a nice change. Regarding Lou, if there's no meanigfull return that we'll help us now, MG should go with the best pick he can get for him. With Hank, Daniel, and Burr all around 33, and Kess' long-term health a question mark, it ain't gonne be pretty in couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemy Time Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I just hope we take a real scorer with wherever we're picking. Supposed to be be a deeper draft for forwards and heaven knows we need elite scoring prospects. Not aiming for the sky here, but better than PPG in the CHL during and following the draft year would be a nice change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Alexander Cody Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Poor choices? LOL Looking at our 1st round picks since 2000, our track record looks pretty great. 2000 - Nathan Smith (BUST) 2001 - RJ Umberger (6 time 20 goal scorer, but did not develop with VAN) 2002 - No 1st Rounder 2003 - Ryan Kesler (2nd line centre Selke winner) 2004 - Cory Schneider (One of the best young goaltenders in the league) 2005 - Luc Bourdon (Would have been a top 4 defender had the tragic accident not happened, RIP) 2006 - Michael Grabner (Developed with VAN, but wasn't in proper shape, this was admitted by Grabner himself) 2007 - Patrick White (BUST) 2008 - Cody Hodgson (Developed by VAN, traded due to drama issues, got a top power forward prospect in return) 2009 - Jordan Schroeder (Ranked as a top 5 North American prospect, should have been a steal at 22) 2010 - No 1st Rounder 2011 - Nicklas Jensen (Leading scorer on SEL team) 2012 - Brendan Gaunce (One of the draft's most NHL ready prospects, lots of defensive potential) Man, our first round drafting and development just SUCKSSSSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I don't think Kassian is a top power forward prospect yet. He's still got issues with consistency and has yet to prove to me that he can become a Todd Bertuzzi like player. He has lots to prove and I hope he does prove that he was worth it for Hodgson. Or else, he might be one of the Canucks that I dislike, like MayRay. For the love of God please don't give it to Calgary or Minnesota. I wouldn't mind if Toronto or Winnipeg got #1 overall and picked MacKinnon Any one but them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 with regards to the 30 balls in a cage draft pick, I'd rather do what I suggested in that draft pick thread: the 14 non-playoff teams all get 1 ball, and the top 5 picks are chosen at random from those 14 teams. then the remainder of the picks are chosen as they currently are, based on final standings. that way it helps keep the parity, worst teams still get high picks (guaranteed 6-10 for the 5 worst teams, with potential for higher), but it still gives the bubble teams a chance to land a prospect that could push them over the top so they can start making the playoffs. and I'd make sure the pick process was made by the american lottery commission with one of those automatic ball tumblers shown live on TV. that way the potential for "fixing" would be minimized (american don't really care about what team gets first overall, and they wouldn't risk trying to fix it, otherwise their credibility for their real lottery business would be questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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