Tortorella's Rant Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, taxi said: It is very sad. I remember watching his bigger by the day, where he used steroids/GH to put on about 50lbs in 2 months...it was pretty terrifying to watch. He slimmed down later, but that could not have been good for him. Reports are stating that his death may have had nothing to do with steroids though, and he died of a drug overdose. Apparently paramedics found crushed white powder and then used an anti-opiate to revive him. So it could have been cocaine laced with Fentanyl. I'm sure all the steroids/GH he took didn't do wonders for his heart though. Amazing how many people continue to state that steroids aren't bad for you, but then every wrestler/body builder seems to drop dead around the age of 50. Clearly they are. One guy at the gym I know of does it (don't know why; he should be training a lot harder than he does to get the benefits of it) and his back looks like a WW1 western front battle field - all torn up. Hella nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I never realized how rampant steroid use was. Was at a friends bbq and somehow the topic of working out came up while we were having beers. 3 of the guys average chubby/stalky looking guys were going on about how they take oral steroids and how awesome their results were. I honestly wouldnt have guessed they were using. Kind of disappointing actually to think of it. As for Rich Piana, seemed like a genuine guy with image issues and clearly he's not the only one. Apparently another bodybuilder passed thid week Dallas Mcarver (not sure who he is or how he died). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) Quote As for Rich Piana, seemed like a genuine guy with image issues and clearly he's not the only one. Apparently another bodybuilder passed thid week Dallas Mcarver (not sure who he is or how he died). Another body Builder passed away a few days ago, but apparently choking on food? only 26 years. R.I.P. I Never really followed Rich because he was on steroids. But a very motivational guy, with strong messages. Will be missed among the fitness community. Edited August 26, 2017 by MoneypuckOverlord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 anyone here use weight gainers? need opinion on it, when it comes to the abs. Is it harder for me to get a defined abs while on weight gainers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: anyone here use weight gainers? need opinion on it, when it comes to the abs. Is it harder for me to get a defined abs while on weight gainers? Yeah, the higher your body fat the harder it is to have visible abs- and your body fat is likely to increase if you're on a weight gainer. Some guys can have some visible abs with slightly elevated BF due to deep definition in their abs and/or good genetics but they're few and far between. What type of weight gainer are you using ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Sean Monahan said: Yeah, the higher your body fat the harder it is to have visible abs- and your body fat is likely to increase if you're on a weight gainer. Some guys can have some visible abs with slightly elevated BF due to deep definition in their abs and/or good genetics but they're few and far between. What type of weight gainer are you using ? thank you for your response. Yea I do notice when I was on it, I did get bigger, but my gut also got "bigger" lol as in beer belly bigger trying this one for now http://pharmafreak.com/products/proteins-gainers/mass-freak/#1466142158867-b9b0c1c3-0c1d probably won't be on it for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: thank you for your response. Yea I do notice when I was on it, I did get bigger, but my gut also got "bigger" lol as in beer belly bigger trying this one for now http://pharmafreak.com/products/proteins-gainers/mass-freak/#1466142158867-b9b0c1c3-0c1d probably won't be on it for very long. I wouldn't bother with store-bought gainers to be honest. They're very expensive per serving and they're mostly just loaded with sugar. I made a homemade gainer when I was still playing baseball and trying to put on some significant size over the course of a summer after being injured and out of the game/gym for the past year. IIRC it was a combination of protein powder (I used a blend protein), oats, peanut butter, milk (2%), honey, and a banana. You can still get all the calories of a weight gainer you'd get in stores but it's substantially cheaper and you can adjust the macros to suit you better. I'd often throw in cinnamon too, helps with the taste and insulin sensitivity too when you eat it regularly. Insulin sensitivity is key when you're trying to gain weight and not get fat. Edited August 30, 2017 by Sean Monahan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brilac Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) My co-workers and I are doing the Base 2 Space event at the Space Needle October 1st to support Cancer Research at Fred Hutch. Any tips on how I should train for this, and what I should eat? I have been doing the stairs, and average 31-38 flights per day, about 341-418 steps depending on the flights I do. I have been doing these flights throughout the day, 12 flights each session / 3 sessions per day. I plan on upping my sessions each week. The Space Needle has 832 steps/ 98 flights. I've done similar things like the Grouse Grind a few times, once as part of the Challenge, and that was some toughness with some breaks. Edited August 30, 2017 by brilac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 13 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: anyone here use weight gainers? need opinion on it, when it comes to the abs. Is it harder for me to get a defined abs while on weight gainers? It's not bad as a quick meal replacement. Usually their nutritional content are pretty good... just sugar is high too... which is kinda the purpose. But they are pricey compared to just regular protein shakes. Better to gain weight by just simply eating more meat, cottage cheese or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 13 hours ago, brilac said: My co-workers and I are doing the Base 2 Space event at the Space Needle October 1st to support Cancer Research at Fred Hutch. Any tips on how I should train for this, and what I should eat? I have been doing the stairs, and average 31-38 flights per day, about 341-418 steps depending on the flights I do. I have been doing these flights throughout the day, 12 flights each session / 3 sessions per day. I plan on upping my sessions each week. The Space Needle has 832 steps/ 98 flights. I've done similar things like the Grouse Grind a few times, once as part of the Challenge, and that was some toughness with some breaks. Jump up stairs two feet at a time. any runners workout plan will help. leg strength is obviously your friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 21 hours ago, brilac said: My co-workers and I are doing the Base 2 Space event at the Space Needle October 1st to support Cancer Research at Fred Hutch. Any tips on how I should train for this, and what I should eat? I have been doing the stairs, and average 31-38 flights per day, about 341-418 steps depending on the flights I do. I have been doing these flights throughout the day, 12 flights each session / 3 sessions per day. I plan on upping my sessions each week. The Space Needle has 832 steps/ 98 flights. I've done similar things like the Grouse Grind a few times, once as part of the Challenge, and that was some toughness with some breaks. youtube nate bower 20 minute boxing video workout. That will blast your lungs and help with what you want to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 21 hours ago, brilac said: My co-workers and I are doing the Base 2 Space event at the Space Needle October 1st to support Cancer Research at Fred Hutch. Any tips on how I should train for this, and what I should eat? I have been doing the stairs, and average 31-38 flights per day, about 341-418 steps depending on the flights I do. I have been doing these flights throughout the day, 12 flights each session / 3 sessions per day. I plan on upping my sessions each week. The Space Needle has 832 steps/ 98 flights. I've done similar things like the Grouse Grind a few times, once as part of the Challenge, and that was some toughness with some breaks. Sounds like you're doing just fine with the regimen you already have. (Is there an elevator? That might be the quickest way to the top? ) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brilac Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Alflives said: Sounds like you're doing just fine with the regimen you already have. (Is there an elevator? That might be the quickest way to the top? ) Hahaha, and ha! Yes I think there's 2, but the stairs seem so much more fun! I did 38 flights overall today. Next week my goal is 50 flights per day + what @riffraff and @MoneypuckOverlord recommended. Thanks all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 On 8/29/2017 at 7:43 PM, MoneypuckOverlord said: anyone here use weight gainers? need opinion on it, when it comes to the abs. Is it harder for me to get a defined abs while on weight gainers? Stop the weight gainers and just eat more actual food. Most are loaded with empty calories and TONS of sugar that will do more harm than good in regards to gains. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, RRypien37 said: Stop the weight gainers and just eat more actual food. Most are loaded with empty calories and TONS of sugar that will do more harm than good in regards to gains. will do. These are just sample packs I have, but awesome advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Grouse Grind best times? Mine is 44 minutes. That was a long time ago when I was a lot lighter and a lot more ripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Grouse Grind best times? Mine is 44 minutes. That was a long time ago when I was a lot lighter and a lot more ripped. Have not done but my Squamish chief is 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Grouse Grind best times? Mine is 44 minutes. That was a long time ago when I was a lot lighter and a lot more ripped. I did it in 36 minutes in 2013. Did it once this summer in late July and I think it was 44 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Anyone go to the gym after a week off, and you look way smaller in the mirror? What the f. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 35 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Anyone go to the gym after a week off, and you look way smaller in the mirror? What the f. Imagine taking 2 years off like I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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