aqua59 Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Somehow casual Kev with torts seems like a recipe for disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 They both have character. Character guys make it work. Go Canucks Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 how did he do with av? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 He'll buy in. IMO a lot of his lacklustre play stems from the example his gum chewing non coaching coach had. When challenged Kevin will respond admirably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Drama on CDC even before the season has begun. Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Juice will be fine.... Nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 The truth is nobody knows how individuals react to one another until tested. AV allowed the core and veterans to motivate and police themselves. Torts is the exact opposite of AV so the whole dynamic has been changed. We will never know how the players react until there is an incident. Even then the players will likely maintain a public persona of professionalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 It has been made an issue - one that I think was overplayed. Edit: [read what Elvis posted] - what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 It has been made an issue - one that I think was overplayed. Edit: [read what Elvis posted] - what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 He'll be fine. For one thing, Torts won't switch the D pairings up every period like the previous idiot did. He also won't play Bieksa with defensive liabilities such as Edler. The best benefit for Bieksa, though, is Torts is going to want him to play with much more of an edge than AV did. The rest of Bieksa's game seems to be much better when he's able to drop the mitts occasionally. I think Juice will become a favourite of Torts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Your micro opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril Sneer Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Hahahah You really think Bieksa has made it to the NHL without running into a coach like Torts? Bieksa needs a Torts to pull his head out of his bum once in a while, it will be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The Sedins will struggle with Tortorella's system the most. They're the worst defensively and never block shots, but will be asked to stop free-wheeling offensively the way AV let them and play defence first and foremost which goes against some 10 years of their training and development. If they can do it (and they will, they're the definition of professionals) then everyone on the team can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Your micro opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I think they will clash for sure.. but I get the feeling AV either stopped trying or stopped being able to push Bieksa's buttons in a good way. You know if Juice gets prickly Torts isn't going to back off... like someone else said, as long as they're winning it works out - if they tank this could turn toxic in a hurry. Didn't Juice go on record and say "this isn't the kind of coach we need?" Edit: this was brought up just after the signing... /topic/346788-how-will-the-hiring-of-john-tortorella-affect-kevin-bieksa/">http://forum.canucks.com/topic/346788-how-will-the-hiring-of-john-tortorella-affect-kevin-bieksa/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 One supported by facts. There's no question the media has run with this just like any other story and at the very least led people to an opinion that Bieksa has a problem with Torts. Bieksa's comments contradict that though, and the actual, factual evidence tells us there's actually no issue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 I think they will clash for sure.. but I get the feeling AV either stopped trying or stopped being able to push Bieksa's buttons in a good way. You know if Juice gets prickly Torts isn't going to back off... like someone else said, as long as they're winning it works out - if they tank this could turn toxic in a hurry. Didn't Juice go on record and say "this isn't the kind of coach we need?" Edit: this was brought up just after the signing... /topic/346788-how-will-the-hiring-of-john-tortorella-affect-kevin-bieksa/">http://forum.canucks...t-kevin-bieksa/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Why does everyone think these two will have problems? God, you guys realize Tony G hasn't even touched on this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I didn't bring it up because the media brought it up. Maybe i should just state that simply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 And that's fine, but I brought up two threads that have already been broached on the subject, one of which has Bieksa directly countering the notion that he'd have an issue with Torts. oldnews weighed in with his opinion too, based on what we already knew, and you downplayed it as a 'micro opinion' - which sounded condescending even if you didn't mean it that way. And as I mentioned, I'd already countered with actual evidence that contradicts that. If people want to have their own opinion that doesn't match the facts, that's their right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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