King Heffy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thankfully this is from a real source. Can't wait until Edler is out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 This isn't news, but yeah a retool and getting rid of some core players is vastly needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 He won't trade for a rental but would he trade for Callahan with an intend to re-sign him? I've heard somewhere (I forgot where) but a few teams asked to speak to his agent, wondering if Vancouver is one of them. But then reading this, Gillis is trying to get younger so I guess that answers my own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thankfully this is from a real source. Can't wait until Edler is out of here. In some ways I agree with you, but your hate for Edler is becoming so blatant that it's not even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thankfully this is from a real source. Can't wait until Edler is out of here. I shudder to think what the return might be.. Just a terrible season to be moving him. Talk about moving your assests at the worst time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 In some ways I agree with you, but your hate for Edler is becoming so blatant that it's not even funny. Well I wouldn't hate him if he could play defense. The bottom line is a guy who can't score and is a human pylon is completely useless to an NHL team. He's had almost two years since he came back from his surgery and he's been a complete liability. Cap space>>>>>>>>Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I shudder to think what the return might be.. Just a terrible season to be moving him. Talk about moving your assests at the worst time. He keeps getting progressively worse though. If he doesn't start playing like an NHLer in his own end he'll be buyout material soon. Regular buyout, Yashin style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I believe that if the Islanders can find some stable goaltending, they can be a contender in the east. I'd even put them near the top of the Metropolitan. Before the start of the season I thought that they were a playoff team. Analyzing now I believe that they are just a goaltender away. Vanek - Tavares - Okposo is one of the hottest lines in hockey right now. I believe that they have stable D as well. Miller on the Islanders I think would make some noise. Yup, I keep questioning why people say Luongo wouldn't garner a 1st and a top prospect from the Isles and the Panthers when goal tending puts them into serious playoff position and or possible playoff contention. People may not think they're worth that but when an owner see tens of millions in playoff revenue as a possibility, that deal gets done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 He keeps getting progressively worse though. If he doesn't start playing like an NHLer in his own end he'll be buyout material soon. Regular buyout, Yashin style. Not really Yashin style as we won't be paying him for 90 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Our window to win the cup hasn't closed, we just should work with players that are on the active roster and draft picks when it comes to trades. There could be veteran players made available after the olympics who would be huge for the long-term stability of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.Joneson Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 This has been coming for awhile. Our core was built to compete for the Stanley Cup from 2009-2012. We had some great years in there. Like most on here I don't think we need to go full rebuild or anything but we need to trade some assets that we have, mainly Kesler & Edler so that we can get younger and remain competitive. Not saying it's possible but if we could trade Alex Edler for Ryan O'Reilly we should do that. Then I think we should take advantage of the Flyers love affair with Kesler, if we can get two of Jakub Voracek, Wayne Simmonds, Brayden Schenn or Sean Couturier we jump at that. The ideal 2 players coming back being Wayne Simmonds and Jakub Voracek. We would have to throw in more for these types of deals to go through, especially on the Philadelphia deal, probably Jannik Hansen or Burrows. Basically on the out is: Alex Edler, 27 turning 28 Ryan Kesler, 29 turning 30 Coming in: Ryan O'Reilly, 22 turning 23 Wayne Simmonds, 25 turning 26 or Jakub Voracek, 24 turning 25 or Brayden Schenn, 22 turning 23 or Sean Couturier, 21 turning 22 This keeps us competitive and gets us younger. I'm not against trading for draft picks or prospects like Mantha, but people on here thinking we have any chance of a McDavid are out to lunch. How many times has the team with the 1st overall pick ended up trading it, we still have enough pieces that it isn't possible for us to tank that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13371337 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 WOW.... PLEASE BE TRUE... could it be??? could it really be that gillis is starting to get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Not really Yashin style as we won't be paying him for 90 years. Ha or be debating signing him to a different contract 4 or 5 years later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Not really Yashin style as we won't be paying him for 90 years. Yeah, just not a compliance buyout. Any GM who willingly takes on Edler's contract is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Yeah, just not a compliance buyout. Any GM who willingly takes on Edler's contract is an idiot. OK....ya just showed a little idiocy in your post. The guy is still a top 4 D with huge upside on ANY team in the league. Don't let your hate cloud your judgement cause that was just a silly comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 This has been coming for awhile. Our core was built to compete for the Stanley Cup from 2009-2012. We had some great years in there. Like most on here I don't think we need to go full rebuild or anything but we need to trade some assets that we have, mainly Kesler & Edler so that we can get younger and remain competitive. Not saying it's possible but if we could trade Alex Edler for Ryan O'Reilly we should do that. Then I think we should take advantage of the Flyers love affair with Kesler, if we can get two of Jakub Voracek, Wayne Simmonds, Brayden Schenn or Sean Couturier we jump at that. The ideal 2 players coming back being Wayne Simmonds and Jakub Voracek. We would have to throw in more for these types of deals to go through, especially on the Philadelphia deal, probably Jannik Hansen or Burrows. Basically on the out is: Alex Edler, 27 turning 28 Ryan Kesler, 29 turning 30 Coming in: Ryan O'Reilly, 22 turning 23 Wayne Simmonds, 25 turning 26 or Jakub Voracek, 24 turning 25 or Brayden Schenn, 22 turning 23 or Sean Couturier, 21 turning 22 This keeps us competitive and gets us younger. I'm not against trading for draft picks or prospects like Mantha, but people on here thinking we have any chance of a McDavid are out to lunch. How many times has the team with the 1st overall pick ended up trading it, we still have enough pieces that it isn't possible for us to tank that bad. PLease No Simmonds. That would be the ultimate insult as the pick we traded way back when....is Simmonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Yup, I keep questioning why people say Luongo wouldn't garner a 1st and a top prospect from the Isles and the Panthers when goal tending puts them into serious playoff position and or possible playoff contention. People may not think they're worth that but when an owner see tens of millions in playoff revenue as a possibility, that deal gets done I still think Florida is still not stable in some positions though. They don't have an elite player in either offence, defence or goaltending, their centre depth is simply not good enough, and I don't think they have the right mix of veterans with young players, even with the likes of Goc and Jovanovski. The difference with the Islanders and Panthers for me is that I think the Islanders are one or two pieces away while I think the Panthers will still have a lot of growing pains to go through. Florida does have a good foundation of youth though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 OK....ya just showed a little idiocy in your post. The guy is still a top 4 D with huge upside on ANY team in the league. Don't let your hate cloud your judgement cause that was just a silly comment Top 4 D? He can't score, has terrible speed, loves going for leisurely skates in his own zone, and gets turnstiled more than New York subway passengers. You wanna pay 5 mil for a defenseman who's either too stupid or too lazy to play defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Bout time. This lineup is gross and the gameplay is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Kesler-d prospect and first Edler -d prospect and first Bieksa-d prospect and first Add Tanev and Corrado and the future d corp is pretty much done.add four gritty fast top six to shinkaruk and Horvat and in one swoop the rebuild gets a kick start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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