DeNiro Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Are you saying the 1C of team USA would only get a nice PROSPECT and a 1st??? We would get one more piece back easily, most likely as a salary coming back. I would hope we get more than 1 dimensional Mantha and a 1st. (likely to be a low pick in a not so deep draft). You're delusional. If Bobby Ryan can get 2 players and a 1st then so can Kes. Umm Mantha is their best prospect FYI. He made the rest of team Canada look like boys in the tournament, and is destroying the Q right now. He's looking like he's going to be a stud number 1 center ala Getzlaf. And it's arguable that Kesler is worth as much as Ryan was. Ryan was younger and a former 2nd overall pick who hadn't reached his peak. While Kesler will be turning 30 this year and appears to be declining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Tell me if not Kes who is then? That Daniel guy who hasn't score in two months? I dunno. To me, it's Kes.. easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Look I know the flavour of the month/year is to trade Edler, but I'm telling you...I watched our defenseman intently when he was out with his knee injury to see if we would miss him or not and I'm here to tell you. If you trade Edler without a physical defenseman to replace him with our defenseman are about to become the nails in any series we play. Bieksa is the only guy that delivers any sort of punch physically and he's almost 33. I'm not saying I'm completely against it, but we better be getting good value or don't bother, he'll come around. I don't want the Canucks to trade Edler. I like the guy and know he'll turn it around eventually. But right now, Phaneuf is playing better than Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I am intrigued that Ken Holland and Gillis could be discussing a deal involving Franzen due to Detroits rapidly expanding group of young top 6 potential players and the fact they have one compliance buy out left and may want to use it on both Steven Weiss and Franzen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Habitat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Gotta be a bigger deal .... Not 1 for 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Rio Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 To Det: Kesler, Edler To Van: Mantha, Franzen, DeKeyser enough, or more? I think the Wings would rather let go of Mantha still being a very young prospect, than one of their line up young guys like Tatar or Nyqvist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I don't want the Canucks to trade Edler. I like the guy and know he'll turn it around eventually. But right now, Phaneuf is playing better than Edler. I will concede that, but people need to remember that Edler is a top 30 scoring and top 30 minute munching defenseman. He is in a defenseman's prime years, has an excellent contract is low maintenance from an attitude standpoint and can destroy players when healthy. He is far from 100% and Tossing him to the scrap heap would be fool hearty. Trading for Franzen would have to include Nyquist or Jurco and B.Smith and sure they could have a bottom 6 like Hansen to balance the bodies. Maybe they feel they could resurrect Booth for one season so they can buy out Weiss and well keep Jannik. No way to Tatar and there is no way there trading Mantha. He's the reason Franzen would be expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Umm Mantha is their best prospect FYI. He made the rest of team Canada look like boys in the tournament, and is destroying the Q right now. He's looking like he's going to be a stud number 1 center ala Getzlaf. And it's arguable that Kesler is worth as much as Ryan was. Ryan was younger and a former 2nd overall pick who hadn't reached his peak. While Kesler will be turning 30 this year and appears to be declining. Mantha plays center??? Guys gonna be good but lots of players have crushed the Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackleford Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Franzen Ouellet or Sproul Frk Helm Cleary for Edler Schroeder Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 We are all flames 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Mantha plays center??? Guys gonna be good but lots of players have crushed the Q. Right wing. Corey Perry then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Tell me if not Kes who is then? One of the Sedins obviously, no question. The only year Kesler has ever been even remotely close to being in the same city, let alone the same neighborhood as the Sedins, is this year and maybe his Selke year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 if this is the move that gillis is going to make. he SHOULD be fired for being stupid. Edler could fetch a hell of a lot more than Franzen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Right wing. Corey Perry then. Meh, I see Mantha being multiple steps below Perry, who is far more dynamic. Mantha, at this point, is weak defensively and weak in transition. He's got a lot of learning to do still until he's ready for the NHL. Will spend next year in the AHL and probably the following year as well with a call-up or two. Might be a 30 goal scorer one day with the correct development. 40 goal scorer if the stars align or I'm off in my assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonimator#19 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Edler for Brayden Schenn Higgins for 1st round pick at deadline. Schenn hasn't lived up to the billing and has been fairly average so far in his career. Philly also will be needing dman after losing some to free agency. Schenn Kesler Santorelli Sedin Sedin Kassian Burrows Horvat Hansen Hamhuis Bieksa Garrison Tanev Stanton Corrado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg's Ricin Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Umm Mantha is their best prospect FYI. He made the rest of team Canada look like boys in the tournament, and is destroying the Q right now. He's looking like he's going to be a stud number 1 center ala Getzlaf. And it's arguable that Kesler is worth as much as Ryan was. Ryan was younger and a former 2nd overall pick who hadn't reached his peak. While Kesler will be turning 30 this year and appears to be declining. Sure Ryan is young, but overall Kes is a better player than Ryan, and it seems that most GM's would agree, seeing as how Ryan didn't even make team USA, although I think he still should have (Ryan is also 1 dimensional like Mantha). GM's value defensive gritty, Selke winning centers much more than a skilled winger in todays NHL. Any team making cup run would likely overpay for somebody like Kes to anchor their 2/3C position. Detroit would be one of those teams IMO. I still am flabbergasted that you think Kes would only get Mantha and a 1st. You have to remember that Mantha was the last person to make team Canada, because he is so 1 dimensional. It was either him or Shinkaruk. They made the right choice obviously, but he was nowhere near the best player on that team. If you think otherwise, you are a fool Deniro. Mantha is barely > Shinkaruk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Sure Ryan is young, but overall Kes is a better player than Ryan, and it seems that most GM's would agree, seeing as how Ryan didn't even make team USA, although I think he still should have (Ryan is also 1 dimensional like Mantha). GM's value defensive gritty, Selke winning forwards much more than a skilled winger in todays NHL. Any team making cup run would likely overpay for somebody like Kes to anchor their 2/3C position. Detroit would be one of those teams IMO. I still am flabbergasted that you think Kes would only get Mantha and a 1st. You have to remember that Mantha was the last person to make team Canada, because he is so 1 dimensional. It was either him or Shinkaruk. They made the right choice obviously, but he was nowhere near the best player on that team. If you think otherwise, you are a fool Deniro. Mantha is barely > Shinkaruk. Wasn't Shink injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Umm Mantha is their best prospect FYI. He made the rest of team Canada look like boys in the tournament, and is destroying the Q right now. Mantha did very well facing teams like Slovakia, Germany and Czechs in the World Juniors but the 3 games he played against USA x2 and Russia he got 1 point in these games. He fed off weaker teams. No defensive game and he isn't physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It's not Edler for Franzen 1 for 1, calm your asses down and read the article first lol. Franzen will be added for cap reasons and we'll get a top prospect in Mantha/Nyquvist/Tatar and a 1st/2nd possibly ontop on Franzen. If you think that's a bad deal, you don't know who Edler is...he's inconsistent and one team that can turn him around is Detroit but even the , that is a solid deal. ...should see any of those 3 youngsters play..they are something else. Nyquist and Jurco are two of their untouchables so don't get your hopes up. Franzens contract is worse then Burrs. It ends in 2020 and he will be 40, at 4 mil cap hit. Unless we get Mantha AND their 1st absolutely no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Franzen with the Sedin's till they retire would be awesome as Franzen is a playoff player!But saying that they would have to be a secon line, maybe 1st for this and next year, but what then??if MG has a plan on getting another scorer and getting rid of older players then do it and NOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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