Dittohead Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/01/putin-asks-russian-parliament-for-permission-to-use-military-inside-ukraine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Wondering if this will be a crisis like in Georgia a few Years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Wow. Ukraine is a mess, and now they get to host the invading Russian military. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortorellatheboss Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 it's not "the" Ukraine, just Ukraine. And my girlfriend is Ukrainian and I haven't heard from her in 2 days, I'm worried sick Anyways, just goes to show you that there's way more important things in life than hockey games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I get the feeling this will be one of those scenarios where Russia invades Ukraine while the western/EU stands around and condemns it for the next 2 years. You can't really Sanction a country as big as Russia, but you can be rest assured lots of angry letters are going Russia's way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I was reading this yesterday, things are getting crazy over there. It'll be interesting to see if anyone gets involved, going up against Russia would be pretty crazy. Especially if China decides to remain impartial or back Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 it's not "the" Ukraine, just Ukraine. And my girlfriend is Ukrainian and I haven't heard from her in 2 days, I'm worried sick Anyways, just goes to show you that there's way more important things in life than hockey games. Thoughts and prayers going your way bud hope everything works out. Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 WW3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Russia has a major military base there as well as naval assets. The direction the country is going with just removing their leader does not sit well with a large segment of the population, especially with Russian interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Maker Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 "Invading?" The Black Sea Fleet has been stationed in Crimea since like forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saskatchewan Canucks Fan Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 It hasn't been "The" Ukraine since 1991 when it became independent of the Soviet Union. Now it is just simply Ukraine. I've noticed a few reporters include "the" still and it comes across as uneducated and ignorant in my opinion. Of course I make similar mistakes myself. But I feel that a reporter/journalist should take the time to make sure they are providing relevant and correct information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
î мцšт вяздк чфµ Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 all of this could've been averted if ovenchicken and the rest of the hens won a gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The Crimean peninsula has always been strategically important, especially so for Russia. That's where the focus will be along with Kiev and Odessa. It'll be interesting to see if they'll go as far as Lviv which could alarm the rest of Europe. This is a little mind boggling because of the sheer scope of sending military into a country as large as Ukraine. This isn't Chechnya, or even Georgia which is big enough, this is one of the largest countries on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombastik der Teutone Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The Crimean peninsula has always been strategically important, especially so for Russia. That's where the focus will be along with Kiev and Odessa. It'll be interesting to see if they'll go as far as Lviv which could alarm the rest of Europe. This is a little mind boggling because of the sheer scope of sending military into a country as large as Ukraine. This isn't Chechnya, or even Georgia which is big enough, this is one of the largest countries on the planet. + both own nuclear weapons if i´m correct not that they will use them ....but its allways a thing to worry about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Ukraine crisis: Obama warns Russia against intervention President Obama: "Any violation of Ukraine sovereignty would be deeply destabilising"Continue reading the main story Ukraine crisis Latest updatesBBC on the groundAirport takeoversCrimea explained US President Barack Obama has warned Russia there will be "costs" for any military intervention in Ukraine. He said he was deeply concerned by reports of Russian military movements inside the country. Ukraine's acting president has accused Russia of deploying troops to the Ukrainian region of Crimea and trying to provoke Kiev into "armed conflict". Crimea's pro-Moscow prime minister has asked Russian authorities for help in maintaining peace in the region. "I appeal to the president of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, to provide assistance in ensuring peace and tranquillity on the territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea," Serhiy Aksyonov said in a statement. Mr Aksyonov, who was appointed by the Crimean parliament on Thursday, also said he was taking control of Crimea's interior ministry, armed forces, fleet and border guards "on a temporary basis". Continue reading the main story From the scene Oleg Boldyrev BBC Russian, Simferopol Passengers at the main airport in Simferopol were waiting for their flight to Istanbul when they were told airspace over the city was closed and the flight would not leave until the next morning at the earliest. Some considered making the 500km (310-mile) trip to the nearest international airport, in Odessa. Meanwhile, the airport car park was still being patrolled by heavily-armed soldiers in uniforms that gave no indication of where they were from. News from elsewhere was no less alarming. The main television station was taken over by armed men who said they were from Russia's Black Sea Fleet. Reports came in that fibre optic lines connecting Crimea to the rest of Ukraine were either blocked or damaged. If the mobile or internet connection goes down, it will be the most palpable indication yet of an emergency situation for the local people. "All commanders are to obey only my orders and instructions," Mr Aksyonov said. "I ask all those who refuse to do so to resign." The new cabinet in Ukraine is due to meet for the first time on Saturday to discuss the deepening crisis over Russia's reported military deployments. Russia's UN ambassador earlier insisted any troop movements in Crimea were within an existing arrangement with Ukraine. Overnight reports said armed men in unidentified military uniforms had seized another airfield. On Friday they took over airports in the Crimean capital, Simferopol, and Sevastopol, where Russia's Black Sea Fleet is based. Ukrainian media citing local officials said 13 Russian aircraft carrying nearly 2,000 suspected troops had landed at a military air base near Simferopol. The report remains unconfirmed. Russian armoured vehicles and helicopters were also seen in and around Simferopol and Sevastopol. Flights from and to Simferopol were cancelled with airlines saying airspace over the peninsula had been closed. The armed men also moved in on Crimea's parliament, state television building and telecommunication centres. 'Profound interference' Speaking from the White House, President Obama commended Ukraine's interim government for its "restraint". "Any violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity would be deeply destabilising, which is not in the interests of Ukraine, Russia or Europe," he said. "It would represent a profound interference in matters that must be determined by the Ukrainian people. It would be a clear violation of Russia's commitment to respect the independence and sovereignty and borders of Ukraine - and of international laws." He added: "Just days after the world came to Russia for the Olympic games, it would invite the condemnation of nations around the world. And, indeed, the United States will stand with the international community in affirming that there will be costs for any military intervention in Ukraine." Mr Obama did not spell out what any US response might be. However, the BBC's Beth McLeod in Washington says the US is considering exerting economic pressure by withholding the deeper trade ties that Moscow seeks. It is also considering boycotting a G8 summit hosted by Russia, she adds, although that is not until June. Georgia scenario In a TV address on Friday, Ukraine's interim President Olexander Turchynov said Moscow wanted the new government to react to provocations so it could annex Crimea. He appealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin to "stop provocations and start negotiations". He said Russia was behaving as it did before sending troops into Georgia in 2008 over the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which have large ethnic Russian populations. "They are implementing the scenario like the one carried out in Abkhazia, when after provoking a conflict, they started an annexation of the territory," Mr Turchynov said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 There is nothing Obama can or will do besides blowing smoke. Because Russia has veto on UN Security notheing can be done there. As for breaking international law, the US does it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 There is nothing Obama can or will do besides blowing smoke. Because Russia has veto on UN Security notheing can be done there. As for breaking international law, the US does it all the time. NATO though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Haha, Obama saying don't go into another country and flex your military muscle... comical. He doesn't want them to because the rest of the world will see how a super power should look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 It hasn't been "The" Ukraine since 1991 when it became independent of the Soviet Union. Now it is just simply Ukraine. I've noticed a few reporters include "the" still and it comes across as uneducated and ignorant in my opinion. Of course I make similar mistakes myself. But I feel that a reporter/journalist should take the time to make sure they are providing relevant and correct information It's just like using the term "the Prairies". The area is called "the Ukraine", the country name is Ukraine. NATO though. Georgia had like the observer status for NATO or something, but it didn't stop Russia from just steamrolling Georgia back in 08. If push comes to shove, the Russians still have enough power to just crush continental Europe. This whole situation is tough as the histories of both countries are intertwined. Lots of ethnic Russians are living in the Ukraine, so their concerns are legitimate, plus with the Black Sea fleet stationed there, the Russian Federation might be forced to take action. Sending in "peacekeepers" might be the best solution to avoid a civil war (unlikely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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