Sean Monahan Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yeah I was just reading an article about MVP candidates and I was like holy mofo...that dude is juicing. The baseball fan in me wants to think he's just gifted genetically and athletically. I'd hate to find out he cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 The baseball fan in me wants to think he's just gifted genetically and athletically. I'd hate to find out he cheated. Yeah no doubt. I'd imagine it's really cleaned up from what it used to be, but I'd imagine there's players still trying to gain any edge that they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yeah no doubt. I'd imagine it's really cleaned up from what it used to be, but I'd imagine there's players still trying to gain any edge that they can. Bryce Harper is another one you wonder about...very Troutesque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Bryce Harper is another one you wonder about...very Troutesque. Tough to say with him. I saw Harper play when he was 16 (his last year of high school) and you could see this coming. If he has used or is currently using PED's I'd think he's been doing it since he was 16 or younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Bryce Harper is another one you wonder about...very Troutesque. Lol yes that's very true as well, Shakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 You've GOT to think that with the whole A-Rod situation recently that the league is testing players they suspect might have an artificial edge a bit more frequently. I mean didn't Bautista get tested twice a season or something when he broke out with 50 dingers in 2010? Guy doesn't even look ripped/jacked, so I'd like to think Trout hasn't slid under the radar. Unless of course, it's a cover-up. Re: Donaldson vs Grey Donaldson has been damn near fantastic this season. Not just his offence, but he makes some incredible throws from the 3rd base line. Hell of an arm. As an armchair MLB fan, and typically one that tunes in around playoffs, I'm not to familiar with Grey, but to put it into Jays perspective would it be fair to rephrase the question as "Would you rather have Donaldson in his prime over Roy Halladay in his"? Halladay is one of my favourite pitchers, damn near 8 innings guaranteed when he starts. It's tough to pick one guy or the other as they both offer strengths in different areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm not really sure but are steroids legal in baseball? I'm not necessarily saying anything....but I don't think Trout ever skips neck-day in the gym.Trout has to have juiced. The neck is a dead giveaway. Bryce Harper has the oddest looking jawline I've seen. That dude looks weird af Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Yeah... I dunno. Look at Ekblad. He had a full beard at 15. It happens. Edited August 21, 2015 by theminister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Maybe it's time to move Tulo down the order. Or not. Still has a .320 OBP since joining the Jays. Reveres OBP is .270 since joining the Jays. Edited August 22, 2015 by YummyCakeFace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Maybe it's time to move Tulo down the order. Or not. Still has a .320 OBP since joining the Jays. Reveres OBP is .270 since joining the Jays.Tulo needs to start hitting. No more excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckamo Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Whoooops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Tulo needs to start hitting. No more excuses. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YummyCakeFace Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Hell of a bunt Pennington. Even Tulo should be able to cash Revere. Edited August 22, 2015 by YummyCakeFace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Donaldson is such a prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Despite the fact that we are still a 1/2 game back we are in a better position than we were when we were up by the same margin last week. We have the same amount of wins but, more importantly, only one loss behind NY. Last week we were three losses back even when we were in 1st place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Glad Jays will run with 3 catchers, though only if they actually use Thole enough to give Martin more of a rest. He looks worn down to me and frustrated on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Yeah I was just reading an article about MVP candidates and I was like holy mofo...that dude is juicing. The guys that make me wonder are the guys that get big too quickly. Trout's been built like a tank since I first saw him, so if he's juicing, he's been doing it for a while. Think back to the early days in the careers of guys like A-Rod, Sosa and Bonds. They were actually on the skinny side. They were different people when they were throwing up those big power numbers. The New York fans can celebrate all of A-Rods "accomplishments" if they like, but to me, none of them matter. Ditto Bonds and McGwire. In my mind, Aaron and Maris are still the record holders. I also am a bit skeptical of average sized guys who manage one big offensive season that isn't in keeping with the rest of their careers. Brady Anderson, Brett Boone and Luis Gonzalez all come to mind... That isn't to say that every big power hitter is juicing. There are physically gifted players out there. Aaron, Ruth, Mantle, Griffey, Maris, etc., the list goes on and on. There are far more players doing it the right way then there are cheaters. Trout gets the benefit of the doubt from me until proven otherwise. Despite the fact that we are still a 1/2 game back we are in a better position than we were when we were up by the same margin last week. We have the same amount of wins but, more importantly, only one loss behind NY. Last week we were three losses back even when we were in 1st place. Good point. I really want to see if the pitching mini-slump was an aberration as well. Edited August 22, 2015 by RUPERTKBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Brady Anderson...my gawd was that obvious. But drugs have been a part of baseball life for at least 50 years in some fashion or another. Watch the movie Dockumentary about Dock Ellis. It's eye opening about that and a lot of other topics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bassi13 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-pirates-plunder-toronto/ It's like necro-bumping an old thread in this forum. Article from 2008 about the Bautista trade. Got a solid chuckle from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The guys that make me wonder are the guys that get big too quickly. Trout's been built like a tank since I first saw him, so if he's juicing, he's been doing it for a while. Think back to the early days in the careers of guys like A-Rod, Sosa and Bonds. They were actually on the skinny side. They were different people when they were throwing up those big power numbers. The New York fans can celebrate all of A-Rods "accomplishments" if they like, but to me, none of them matter. Ditto Bonds and McGwire. In my mind, Aaron and Maris are still the record holders. I also am a bit skeptical of average sized guys who manage one big offensive season that isn't in keeping with the rest of their careers. Brady Anderson, Brett Boone and Luis Gonzalez all come to mind... That isn't to say that every big power hitter is juicing. There are physically gifted players out there. Aaron, Ruth, Mantle, Griffey, Maris, etc., the list goes on and on. There are far more players doing it the right way then there are cheaters. Trout gets the benefit of the doubt from me until proven otherwise. Good point. I really want to see if the pitching mini-slump was an aberration as well. Don't forget Frank Thomas. Thomas and Griffey, I think, could have been the top two power hitters of the era if it wasn't for steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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