J529 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 CALGARY, AB. - The Western Hockey League announced today the disciplinary action which has been taken against the Portland Winterhawks franchise for a series of violations of the WHL Regulations. As a result of a series of player benefit violations which have occurred over the past four seasons, WHL Commissioner Ron Robison has suspended the Portland Winterhawks from participating in the first five rounds of the 2013 WHL Bantam Draft and the forfeiture of their first round selections in the 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 WHL Bantam Drafts. Should the first round selection in 2014 not be available due to a conditional trade, Portland will surrender their second and third round picks in the 2014 WHL Bantam Draft. The WHL also announced the Portland Winterhawks have been fined $200,000 and Winterhawks General Manager and Head Coach Mike Johnston has been suspended for the balance of the 2012-13 season, including the 2013 WHL Playoffs. “All WHL Clubs understand they are required to fully comply and respect our League Regulations or they will face significant consequences,” stated WHL Commissioner Ron Robison. “WHL Clubs are required to fully disclose all commitments they make to a player in the WHL Standard Player Agreement. Our independent investigation in this case revealed there were multiple violations over an extended period for player benefits that are not permitted under WHL Regulations and were not disclosed to the WHL. It should also be noted through the course of the investigation there was no evidence of any payments or enhanced education benefits provided to players that would be contrary to WHL Regulations as previous media reports indicated.” So that's the reason why Royals lost to Portland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 "I find it pretty funny coming from member who referred to Portland Winterhawks as "Cheaterhawks" How exactly did they cheat?" http://www.winterhawks.com/article/winterhawks-statement-on-whl-sanctions-suspension Today the Western Hockey League has announced disciplinary action against the Portland Winterhawks for violations related to player benefits. The WHL has forfeited the team from participating in the first five rounds of the 2013 WHL Bantam Draft and the forfeiture of the team’s first round picks in 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017. The WHL also announced the organization has been fined $200,000, and that General Manager & Head Coach Mike Johnston has been suspended for the remainder of the season, including the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 There are some of us who have been telling you all this since the end of last season. But you didnt wanna listen. Teams grow old. We had our fun. We scored a pile of awards and came one game short of the cup. We are NOT contending for the cup for another 3 years minimum. It just doesnt work that way. The team needs to rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 i like how everyone including the media completely forgot about last year..... just talked about how great we were winning the pres cup 2 years in a row and look at where we are now...... well last year we were 2 wins better than 9th place CBJ and we played in a far easier division.... only guy ive heard talk about this is lebrun who said its damn hard to steer a sinking ship...and torts came onto a team already heading in this direction before him... then add on a tougher division ... and a ton of injuries ... and no real changes made to the floundering roster and what did you people expect? torts was going to wave a magic wand and the whole team was going to climb in the way back machine and play like they did 4 years ago?? My thoughts exactly... changing the coach at this point is not going to get you any different results. Playing a different style isn't going to get you different results (in the W/L column anyways.) Team needs an overhaul - if a new coach might help out with that then so be it but going through 2 Jack Adams winning coaches (who have solid winning percentages and a lot of NHL success) in 2 years tells me the issue is not behind the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Torts is no more arrogant then Gillis who threw Torts under the bus and blaming him for how the season went in what turned out to be his final address on 1040. Unbelievable. Tortorella had commented publicly about lacking depth before that Gillis interview. He actually fired the first shots there - and you're overstating/paraphrasing what Gillis said - he didn't blame Tortorella for the season, he commented about departing from a style of play he'd like to see this team commit to. Quite different things, and no more "throwing Tortorella under the bus" than comments about lacking depth are a shot at his GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING ALBERTS Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Not the point of the thread. When the coach says it after a season where he is arguably a good deal responsible for the team at least not making it into the first round, is it a cop out that he said it in public? i've seen you try and tell people how to reply to a thread before - it doesnt work that way... especially the way this site is modded. if anyone wants to start a topic on torts saying the core is getting older, or if in fact the team is aging, or how big of a factor that was in our downfall this year, they will be directed to this thread before being powerlocked. so get over it. TO laughs is right, this has been the arguement since 2011... really it was a matter of time - i think torts was completely right in saying that, and he said it after taking the full blame for the season,(maybe you should watch the interview instead of making a thread based on what, a 10 word tweet?) AS WELL AS being very open about mistakes he has made. 2 first round exits in a row, one was a sweep and one is also the number of playoff games we won in the last 3 seasons... how can anyone argue that age didnt contribute to our downfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Mackcanuck, on 14 Apr 2014 - 7:54 PM, said: CALGARY, AB. - The Western Hockey League announced today the disciplinary action which has been taken against the Portland Winterhawks franchise for a series of violations of the WHL Regulations. As a result of a series of player benefit violations which have occurred over the past four seasons, WHL Commissioner Ron Robison has suspended the Portland Winterhawks from participating in the first five rounds of the 2013 WHL Bantam Draft and the forfeiture of their first round selections in the 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 WHL Bantam Drafts. Should the first round selection in 2014 not be available due to a conditional trade, Portland will surrender their second and third round picks in the 2014 WHL Bantam Draft. The WHL also announced the Portland Winterhawks have been fined $200,000 and Winterhawks General Manager and Head Coach Mike Johnston has been suspended for the balance of the 2012-13 season, including the 2013 WHL Playoffs. “All WHL Clubs understand they are required to fully comply and respect our League Regulations or they will face significant consequences,” stated WHL Commissioner Ron Robison. “WHL Clubs are required to fully disclose all commitments they make to a player in the WHL Standard Player Agreement. Our independent investigation in this case revealed there were multiple violations over an extended period for player benefits that are not permitted under WHL Regulations and were not disclosed to the WHL. It should also be noted through the course of the investigation there was no evidence of any payments or enhanced education benefits provided to players that would be contrary to WHL Regulations as previous media reports indicated.” So that's the reason why Royals lost to Portland? No, the reason the Royals lost was because Portland had the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 i've seen you try and tell people how to reply to a thread before - it doesnt work that way... especially the way this site is modded. if anyone wants to start a topic on torts saying the core is getting older, or if in fact the team is aging, or how big of a factor that was in our downfall this year, they will be directed to this thread before being powerlocked. so get over it. TO laughs is right, this has been the arguement since 2011... really it was a matter of time - i think torts was completely right in saying that, and he said it after taking the full blame for the season,(maybe you should watch the interview instead of making a thread based on what, a 10 word tweet?) AS WELL AS being very open about mistakes he has made. 2 first round exits in a row, one was a sweep and one is also the number of playoff games we won in the last 3 seasons... how can anyone argue that age didnt contribute to our downfall? Take a freaking pill. I posted the article and asked a question. AT NO POINT DID I OFFER AN OPINION. Like I said further on in the thread, I wanted other people's opinions because I only get to see roughly 30 percent of the Vancouver games because first and foremost the Buffalo Sabres are my favourite team. I don't have enough knowledge of the specifics of the Canucks season to make an informed opinion/decision. As to one of your other points, people can respond to the thread any way that they choose. I don't tell them otherwise. I'm not the CDC board police. Never have been, never will be, and have no desire to be. Once again, take a pill and lay off of the caffeine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I found it pretty telling when the players were asked what they thought of Tortorella's job and whether or not he should be the coach moving forward, their answers were that they had to look at themselves, and feel responsible - that if they win more games, then AV, and Gillis and possibly Tortorella don't lose their jobs - that they could have been better, should have been better - and look at themselves first and foremost. Tortorella...they're old, stale, trending and need him to bang away more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Torts ... you're old and stale. You're trending downward ... I saw that right from the beginning yet Gillis and Aqua still hired you. Your style worked 10 years ago. You need to get younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I found it pretty telling when the players were asked what they thought of Tortorella's job and whether or not he should be the coach moving forward, their answers were that they had to look at themselves, and feel responsible - that if they win more games, then AV, and Gillis and possibly Tortorella don't lose their jobs - that they could have been better, should have been better - and look at themselves first and foremost. Tortorella...they're old, stale, trending and need him to bang away more. As competitive athletes age and inevitably slow down, they never want to admit the truth either. Sometimes that makes you work harder and in other cases you slow down. In the Canucks case, it is the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Take a freaking pill. I posted the article and asked a question. AT NO POINT DID I OFFER AN OPINION. Like I said further on in the thread, I wanted other people's opinions because I only get to see roughly 30 percent of the Vancouver games because first and foremost the Buffalo Sabres are my favourite team. I don't have enough knowledge of the specifics of the Canucks season to make an informed opinion/decision. As to one of your other points, people can respond to the thread any way that they choose. I don't tell them otherwise. I'm not the CDC board police. Never have been, never will be, and have no desire to be. Once again, take a pill and lay off of the caffeine. Unless that pill is a caffeine pill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Unless that pill is a caffeine pill... Good point... lol Funny story from when I was 18-19, many moons ago. I bought a package of caffeine pills, took a couple, they didn't hit me within the first 20 min. Took a couple more, nothing after another 15 min. Of course being that young back then, I thought nothing could harm me and I must have some manly resistance to the pills. So what did I do? I took the rest of the pills in the box. Hooo-lleeee crap, that did not go well for me. Once they finally hit, I had heart palpitations, I developed a feeling of paranoia about the oddest things. Didn't sleep for the next 2 days. Finally when it was all over I promised myself I would never touch those things again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 These are the youngest teams in the NHL (26 years avg). There's only one playoff team in this group who barely squeaked in. Columbus Winnipeg Buffalo Ottawa Toronto Nashville Washington Edmonton Calgary Canucks are 27.56 avg. The Sedins and Burrows are the oldest at 33 and the rest of the core group are in mid-late 20's. This isn't a very old team. Get out of here, fact-police!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Watch the Torts interview before you say you want him gone from a misconstrued TSN article. My god people. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Riding the Sedins into the ground was either stupidity or negligence..total fail on them killing so many penaties when we have a dozen third liners to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Twins barely killed penalties this year. Hardly what I would call riding them into the ground. Less than a minute per game average. Daniel just sucks since his concussion, and Hank was a beast until the injuries crept in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 water's wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Why Torts is a great coach is because he's a realist and fully sees the reality of this team and that it's not good enough to win right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 It shows to me that he doesn't realize his biggest mistake this year was the Calgary locker room incident. Cocky enough to say, 'If I reached Hartley, I would have gotten to him' No class. I still think he should go. Guys like Torts who don't know his biggest mistake, don't show any flexibility, cocky are impossible to work with. Please relieve him of his duties.How is that the biggest mistake? When that was still fresh people were 50-50 on what he did. I'd say if Canucks were in the playoffs people would be commending Torts for doing that showing he was sticking up for his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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