DonLever Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The strike by teachers is over as a tentative deal has been made between the teachers and the government. From CKNW: There is a tentative deal to end the teachers strike. After 16 hours of talks in a Richmond hotel, mediator Vince Ready emerged at 4:15am to announce a tentative deal. No details have been released and the two sides, the BC Teachers Federation and the BC Public School Employers Association, are expected to comment later this morning. This round of bargaining follows 14 and a half hours on Saturday and 16 hours on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brick Tamland Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Good for them. I hope they got what they deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Excellent news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope the teachers lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The devil will be in the details....Is the contract of such a value that it triggers the me too clauses? If so, then get ready for some cuts/tax hikes/school closures/pain in general on large scale elsewhere. If no settlement re the court case, it keeps dragging on regardless.Is the contract basically what the government has been sticking too all along, with a sign off on the court case? If so, great, but what guarantee is there that the teachers union will actually vote for it? If that's what happened and I was a teacher I would be voting for a new union boss, not the contract.Let's hope they kept the salaries in line, settled the case, but put in some reasonable class size limits with some reasonable exemptions that deal with the majority of class size issues (which is also a quality of service issue to be sure) that's good enough for the teachers to hold their nose and vote for it.For sure it's no ten year deal though. I would surprised if it's five..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope the teachers lost. Hope that thing called Karma comes and takes a serious chomp out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope the teachers lost. I hope you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 ANCOUVER – A deal has been reached in the education dispute between the BC Teachers’ Federation and the provincial government. After an intense weekend of talks with mediator Vince Ready, the two sides have come to a tentative agreement. The BCTF will now take the details of the agreement to the teachers for a vote on Thursday and if it is accepted, students will be heading back to class. Ready announced the deal to media at 4:15 a.m., but would not discuss details of the tentative agreement. RELATED STORIES Government and BCTF continue negotiations until early hours of the morning BCTF, government back at the bargaining table with Vince Ready Friday What is proposal “E80″ and why is it so contentious? B.C. teachers’ strike: The timeline “After all these hours, I am very pleased to announce that the parties have reached a tentative agreement. I’m not at liberty to release any of the details, nor are the parties. The parties are going to meet later this morning and finalize a few of the outstanding details, but generally speaking there has been a tentative agreement initialed by the parties and that’s really all I got to say at this point.” The deal was reached at 3:50 a.m., after nearly 16 hours of negotiation between Ready, BCTF President Jim Iker, and government negotiator Peter Cameron and their respective teams in a Richmond hotel. Neither Iker nor Cameron have made a statement on the deal yet. Education Minister Peter Fassbender isn’t commenting on the tentative deal until final language is settled on. “This agreement will presumably take us out for a number of years and pretty much guarantee we won’t see a replay of what we’ve seen this year, which is an extended strike, in the near future,” says Global News political reporter Keith Baldrey. “Teachers paid through the pocketbook in this dispute and I think when this new contract ends, which I think is a five year deal, maybe six, the appetite for this type of job action will be quite diminished among the members of the BCTF.” Calling this “historic”, Baldrey says the BCTF was the one “that moved the most in the dispute, but the government did too” and while the details have not been released, it’s his understanding from some of the proposals that have been going back and forth that the government put more money on the table for classroom funding, in the region of $30 million per year. Over the next day, the two sides will be working out the finer points and language of the tentative deal. As for when schools will re-open for students, it’s unclear. “It’s conceivable that schools won’t be open [for students] until next week,” Baldrey says. “All that prep work that has to be done to get class composition together… in all reality, even opening the school today, your child wouldn’t get much learning, it’d still be pretty chaotic.” Vancouver School Board’s vice-chairperson Mike Lombardi said he’s delighted over the news of the tentative deal. “VSB has been pushing hard to settle. We want to get back to school and focus on teaching and learning,” Lombardi says. “Once we know the agreement is settled, we’ll roll up our sleeves and get the schools ready. Our goal is to get the kids back in their seats and the teachers in front of their classrooms.” The strike entered its third week on Monday and tensions were running high on both sides of the dispute. READ MORE: B.C. teacher’s strike – The timeline Since negotiations led by Ready fell apart two weeks ago, teachers have voted more than 99 percent in favour of returning to work if there was binding arbitration. The government has out-ruled this, but it appeared that they are getting more flexible on the contentious E80 clause, which deals with class size and composition. “We have said clearly, tell us what the problem with E80 is, and we’ll negotiate that,” said Education Minister Peter Fassbender. “And again, negotiations are about give and take.” Premier Christy Clark said she was confident the two sides could reach a deal before she leaves for India on Oct. 9 for a trade mission. What brought the two sides together? Vancouver Sun political columnist Vaughn Palmer says enormous credit goes to veteran mediator Vince Ready. “He’s incredibly good at his job and if they got a deal, it’s because both sides moved — that’s where you get a deal in collective bargaining,” Palmer told Global News. “Ready is a big fan of collective bargaining and he’s said in the past in teachers’ disputes, it’s not a broken system. You get a deal when two sides want a deal. And clearly both sides preferred a deal then have this thing settled on the floor of the legislature.” Palmer also mentioned some outstanding questions that will not come to light until the details of the deal are released. “Where does this leave the E80 court case, if anything? What did they do with the $180 million that they saved on the strike in June? We thought all along the money would be available somehow, to make that final element of the deal work. And when do schools go back? Did they make some sort of agreement to extend the school year to make up the time lost?” READ MORE: What is proposal “E80″ and why is it so contentious? The full-scale strike started on June 17 of the last school year, after escalating job action by the teachers throughout the spring. Back in March, public school teachers voted overwhelmingly (89 per cent) in favour of job action and issued 72-hour strike notice on April 17. In late April teachers started phase one of the strike plan and then began rotating strikes on May 26. Talks between the two sides broke down in July before resuming in late August. The full statement from Vince Ready Ready: “After all these hours, I am very pleased to announce that the parties have reached a tentative agreement. I’m not at liberty to release any of the details, nor are the parties. The parties are going to meet later this morning and finalize a few of the outstanding details, but generally speaking there has been a tentative agreement initialized by the parties and that’s really all I got to say at this point.” Can you disclose any details? Ready: I’m not at liberty to disclose any of the details, nor will the parties until they finalize them. They’ll meet later on this morning. Everyone’s a bit tired at this moment. How did this happen? They seemed so far apart a few days ago. Ready: It’s a process of negotiations. Did both sides make concessions? Ready: Both sides worked very hard to get this agreement. I’m not at liberty to discuss details. I’ll leave that to the parties. How are you feeling Vince? Ready: I’m pleased that there’s an agreement, I think the public of British Columbia will be very pleased with an agreement, that’s how I feel. http://globalnews.ca/news/1564466/bc-teachers-strike-deal-reached-between-bctf-and-government/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Of course the devil is in the details, but the dumb thing is we'll be back at this in 4, 5, 6 or however many years the deal will be for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hopefully next time they wont take billions out of education - give it to cover businuess tax breaks - then tell the teachers it will result in tax hikes to get any of that back..... The problem from the start was not that we didn't have the money. The BC Liberals gutted health and education to cover tax breaks for one group leaving the cupboards nearly empty and then used it as hammer over the workers heads that they would have to raise taxes to give any of that back. Funny if you think about it. If the NDP was in power and gave unions raises then told people that if they reduced any businuess taxes, personal taxes would have to go up, liberals would have had melt downs over it. And to cut off the false nonsense that they did when in power .... I remember contracts that were 0,0,1% ... 0/0 ....0,1,1 under the NDP. Right wing goverments ALWAYS leave office with massive deficits and to tackle that debt we got job security over raises. If it wasn't for the 15% wage roll back we would have actually gotten more wage increases under the Liberals than the NDP... go figure. Atleast it appears this battle is over, the court case still looms large and given the tax payers have had to eat over 100 Million in costs already with the HEU court settlement, I just wish the BC Liberals and their supports would pass the hat and cover that cost and the teachers final settlement so that we don't get stung with another massive bill to keep propping up the BC Liberal party corperate socialist agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hopefully next time they wont take billions out of education - give it to cover businuess tax breaks - then tell the teachers it will result in tax hikes to get any of that back..... The problem from the start was not that we didn't have the money. The BC Liberals gutted health and education to cover tax breaks for one group leaving the cupboards nearly empty and then used it as hammer over the workers heads that they would have to raise taxes to give any of that back. Funny if you think about it. If the NDP was in power and gave unions raises then told people that if they reduced any businuess taxes, personal taxes would have to go up, liberals would have had melt downs over it. And to cut off the false nonsense that they did when in power .... I remember contracts that were 0,0,1% ... 0/0 ....0,1,1 under the NDP. Right wing goverments ALWAYS leave office with massive deficits and to tackle that debt we got job security over raises. If it wasn't for the 15% wage roll back we would have actually gotten more wage increases under the Liberals than the NDP... go figure. Atleast it appears this battle is over, the court case still looms large and given the tax payers have had to eat over 100 Million in costs already with the HEU court settlement, I just wish the BC Liberals and their supports would pass the hat and cover that cost and the teachers final settlement so that we don't get stung with another massive bill to keep propping up the BC Liberal party corperate socialist agenda Hopefully...hopefully the union didn't agree to sign that away... we have to wait to see what the deal says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope the teachers lost. One comment .. you have already lost .. and so have our children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope the teachers lost. Your life sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope the teachers lost. This is one of those situations where everybody loses... Time to move forward. I'm just glad it's over (pending the vote) and my daughter can get back to school... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope you do. He already did lose .. his sense of humanity .. I was taking French Pea Soup to some of the teachers here on Friday beciase it was supposed to be raining .. if they ratify, I will take it to their first Staff meeting .. French Pea Soup to the French Immersion school .. all served in the dulcid tones of 'Jean Chretien' telling jokes and making banter .. impersonation can be fun .. you canna impersonate 'empathy' tho .. see right thru it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Interested to hear the details as they come out. Glad to get teachers back to work and kids back in school but so many underlying issues are bound to remain unsolved... We'll be back here again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 He already did lose .. his sense of humanity .. I was taking French Pea Soup to some of the teachers here on Friday beciase it was supposed to be raining .. if they ratify, I will take it to their first Staff meeting .. French Pea Soup to the French Immersion school .. all served in the dulcid tones of 'Jean Chretien' telling jokes and making banter .. impersonation can be fun .. you canna impersonate 'empathy' tho .. see right thru it. Pea soup, havent the teachers suffered enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Interested to hear the details as they come out. Glad to get teachers back to work and kids back in school but so many underlying issues are bound to remain unsolved... We'll be back here again. To use a baseball metaphor, when you're down to your last strike, you don't swing for the fences anymore. You choke up on the bat and just try to get on base... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Let's not put the cart before the horse. Unions can recommend acceptance but that doesn't guarantee a yes vote. If this tentative agreement does not address enough of what the teachers were looking for, why take it? Why strike for this long only to take a bum deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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