PhillipBlunt Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Oh I think, Dangles. And when I think......it hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Holy over reaction to a speculative situation. I put it out there for the purpose of discussion, as these are interesting factors to speculate on, Kes trade thread = speculative Kes trade discussion. Would be more interesting to hear what people have to say on these new variables, rather then my reaction to them. See poster Castiel above for a good example of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Oh I think, Dangles. And when I think......it hurts. At least you have something to hurt. I think I have been CDC lobotomized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 ANH has begun the media posturing... Saying they are interested in Spezza, I know they would rather have Kes but they are clearly floating that out there to let Benning know they have other options. Our leverage is slipping away by the day, We have just lost leverage with CHI and ANH, I think it's too late now. They didn't strike while the iron was hot, they pulled an MG and waited for un-realistic deal to happen. I expect to have an un-happy Kesler in training camp, and a Luongo 2.0 situation to drag on through out the season, before we finally either lose Kes to FA, or let him go for much less then what has been offered. The market was re-hot for Kes and now it has cooled significantly. I think Detroit is the most likely to make the trade, and that is based on nothin, other than I like that rumored offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 ANH has begun the media posturing... Saying they are interested in Spezza, I know they would rather have Kes but they are clearly floating that out there to let Benning know they have other options. Our leverage is slipping away by the day, We have just lost leverage with CHI and ANH, I think it's too late now. They didn't strike while the iron was hot, they pulled an MG and waited for un-realistic deal to happen. I expect to have an un-happy Kesler in training camp, and a Luongo 2.0 situation to drag on through out the season, before we finally either lose Kes to FA, or let him go for much less then what has been offered. The market was re-hot for Kes and now it has cooled significantly. Quick! We must sacrifice a chicken to get this back on track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 And do that voodoo that you do, so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure to Mogilny Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 At least you have something to hurt. I think I have been CDC lobotomized I litterly have no idea whats going on in this thread any more lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 So, we now know that CHI offered Shaw and Terravainen, Benning countered with Saad and Terravainen CHI walked away from the deal. Ok missed something, when and who reported that was offered?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 No one does BuretoMogilny. and that's the way we like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 So, we now know that CHI offered Shaw and Terravainen, Benning countered with Saad and Terravainen CHI walked away from the deal. I doubt they offered Shaw, if they did it should have been considered. Shaw and TT is not a bad offer. I'd probably be thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 ANA is the best option in terms of getting picks and prospects. 10th 24th and Etem/Theodore in exchange for Kesler would be a great rebuilding/retooling move. We would have an exciting future ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 No one does BuretoMogilny. and that's the way we like it. uuuuu huh ! uuuuu huh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 So, we now know that CHI offered Shaw and Terravainen, Benning countered with Saad and Terravainen CHI walked away from the deal. Terravainen is a top center prospect and Shaw is Marchand in the making, and a 20 goal scorer to boot. Would FLA have taken Shaw and 6th for 1st overall? Did we walk away from a great deal? Could we have both Terravainen and Reinhart in our prospect pool, having made this deal? Add Horvat to the list and that is scary center ice depth. (Also posted this in the other Kes thread, as I'm not sure where the majority of Kes talk is happening these days) That's actually a pretty good starting point from Chicago. A lot better of a deal then gillis would have been offered. It's still early so I think letting chi sit on it for a bit is a good idea. JB is an expert he will get us fair value. I would take shaw and TT all day if another offer isn't better. I got a feeling there's going to be some serious offers over the next 48 hours. Excited to see what transpires. It's not about winning a trade but getting fair value. Unproven players have risk attached so I'm glad he's taking his time since TT isnt proven at the nhl lvl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Although I like what Anaheim would be able to give us I don't think it is a good idea trading him in our division ....... Big factor being ignored or forgotten by many IMO. Competing against teams like ANA is a big reason VAN feels changes are needed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Nothing like some white boy funk to get your day going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Stanley Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Shaw, TT, 2nd, 3rd gets it done for me Ideally Shaw, TT, 1st or Leddy if the canucks throw in a sweetener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Just wanted to clarify I really am high on TT but we done know if he will reach his ceiling. Good prospect tho. Maybe chi can boost their offer with another promising prospect or a 2nd or 3 rd pick. If JB wants that. Love to have TT but let's let our man JB make the final decisions. Guys got talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Big factor being ignored or forgotten by many IMO. Competing against teams like ANA is a big reason VAN feels changes are needed.... Still, the return from ANA is one of the best available when trying to trade Kesler. Arguably the best trade available in terms of preparing for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 And I'd like to clarify that I'm just really high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If Shaw were on our team, the corrupt media would portray him like he's a relapsing necrophiliac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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