[rumor] benning wants reinhart

[Ryan Strome]

i posted this in another thread but its appropriate here:

I like I Just can't see tallon wanting to traade those 3 pieces. Maybe a smaller deal. But decent value.

[Boudrias]

Why does burrows have negative value? Seriously!

He was injured all season long, had terrible luck, but was getting to all the right areas.

Had 13 goals 11 assist in 49 games in shortened season.

Year before had 28goals 24assists in 80 games.

In the last 5 full seasons had 3 25+ goals and one 35goal seasons.

Negative value! Seriously, that is the bandwagon junk I can't stand on CDC. One off year for whatever reason, hoist up a noose, trade him for nothing, put him on the 4th line. Garbage!

2 years ago Stevie Y picks Burrows for his team.

This year Rob Blake picks Burrows for his team. Top quality hockey people!

At some point Burrows will extend his career by dropping off the #1 line back to a 3rd or 4th line checking PK specialist. That is more than what it appears the Twins will be able to do.

[Warhippy]

Warhippy, you certainly would do well in debates, however the 1st oa doesn't get traded for those 2 pieces a legit top 6 winger would be the start.

As for Garrison, I'm not convinced he would be a top 2 dman next season in Florida. I also believe that tallons interest would be in Tanev and as I agreed with you before, I think our best move is to stay pat at 6 and keep our youth.

It's those 2 pieces + the 6th overall.

The 1st OA gets moved for that if Florida really wants to be competitive and not saddled with a Phaneuf style contract

[Ryan Strome]

It's those 2 pieces + the 6th overall.

The 1st OA gets moved for that if Florida really wants to be competitive and not saddled with a Phaneuf style contract

But how does this offer compare to Phagoof, Kadri and the 8th?

They reach the floor, get a good young centre, and a #2 dman to play with Campbell.

I just don't see your proposed offer being the best they will get.

Honestly, burrows is a fan favorite but likely an overpaid3rd liner to other teams, as they don't have the Sedins

[Tangerines]

i posted this in another thread but its appropriate here:

I would so be down with that trade. I wonder If Kesler would waive to go to FLA. Our re-tool would be pretty much complete with this deal.

[Ryan Strome]

I would so be down with that trade. I wonder If Kesler would waive to go to FLA. Our re-tool would be pretty much complete with this deal.[/quote

Warm place, lu is there and a lot of good young players. Maybe a good fit.

[messier's_elbow]

So are you saying the only proposals you like is the homer proposals on cdc?

Lol to get future#1 centre or dman it will cost. Cdc seems to think Garrison and the 6th will land you #1

Laughable really. Hell, Toronto put Kadri in the offer they reportedly made. Kadri is more skilled then anyone on our team not named Sedin. He also had more points then Kesler and better ppg average and he's 23.

Bottom line 1st oa will cost you. Pony up or stay put.

Btw I sat stay put.

You right it will cost too much. Im not interested unless they are willing to do something like Tanev+6th overall and a 3rd. Anything else is too much to move up a few spots when we can still potentially get someone like Dal Colle or Nylander.

[Warhippy]

But how does this offer compare to Phagoof, Kadri and the 8th?

They reach the floor, get a good young centre, and a #2 dman to play with Campbell.

I just don't see your proposed offer being the best they will get.

Honestly, burrows is a fan favorite but likely an overpaid3rd liner to other teams, as they don't have the Sedins

It compares because they get a solid D man in Garrison who they KNOW will produce with Campbell and has solid chemistry with burrows as well on the PK and PP

It keeps a massive contract like Phaneufs out of their books. Kadri is the only variable.

As well you've gotta stop referring to Burrows as a 3rd liner. He is a top 9 player available for PK/PP 1st 2nd and 3rd line duties. his versatility makes him more than a 3rd line player. Just like Hansen is a solid bottom 9 player for the same reason.

That versatility is what sets them apart from players like Kadri and makes them so valuable on the market.

[messier's_elbow]

But how does this offer compare to Phagoof, Kadri and the 8th?

They reach the floor, get a good young centre, and a #2 dman to play with Campbell.

I just don't see your proposed offer being the best they will get.

Honestly, burrows is a fan favorite but likely an overpaid3rd liner to other teams, as they don't have the Sedins

That proposed Toronto deal is an overpayment for the first overall in my opinion. If Florida expects us to match that ....no thanks. Id be ok with the proposed 6th, Burrows and Garrison deal if they would waive it seems fair for both sides.

[Mr.53]

That proposed Toronto deal is an overpayment for the first overall in my opinion. If Florida expects us to match that ....no thanks. Id be ok with the proposed 6th, Burrows and Garrison deal if they would waive it seems fair for both sides.

agreed one hundred and ten percent. When i first saw it I couldn't believe it. I thought it said Phaneuf, or Kadri, but both? Really? Then I thought they weren't putting their draft pick in the deal only to find out it was. Crazy talk. Florida comes out like a thief in the night with this exchange. Straight up highway robbery. I wonder how Toronto fans feel about that rumor.

Oh and I too would be fine with Garrison Burrows and our 6th, but thats my limit. Anything more than than, and no thank you, I'll stick with the 6th pick. We could always trade those two for other pieces as well in separate trades.

[Outsiders]

Benning pls get Reinhart but without giving up the future

[KSniper88]

If we don't get Reinhart, I'd be happy with Nylander

[westcoast]

Kesler for #10 +#24

#10,#24,Tanev,Hansen to Florida

Van selects Ekblad #1,Fleury#6

[tas]

Kesler for #10 +#24

#10,#24,Tanev,Hansen to Florida

Van selects Ekblad #1,Fleury#6

so you think ekblad is worth kesler, tanev and hansen?

[Skead]

so you think ekblad is worth kesler, tanev and hansen?

Technically it'd be Ekblad / Fleury for Kesler + Tanev + Hansen. I mean I get that we already have the 6th, but we used the 10th instead to trade rather than our 6th.

[westcoast]

I think both Ekblad and Fleury are going to be very good.I agree the Value now is a heavy price but if they turned into a Keith -Seabrook Calibre pair for 15 years and anchored the Canucks D it would be worth it.Trading Kesler for two potential gold pieces is better IMO than grabbing some lower ceiling players that are bigger gambles.

[L. Stanley]

Tanev + 1st = over payment

at 6th, Nylander, Ehlers, even Draisaitle may be available, and there is a chance that these guys become better or just as good as Reinhart

Corrado + Jensen + sixth is better, but still long term I rather have corrado, jensen and say nylander than just reinhart

or Edler+ 1st for 1stOA and 3rd rounder is alos fair because elder has a long contract and the uncertainty of his performance can be thought of as a prospect with a lot of high quality tools who may or may not reach his potential

[insomniac604]

Virtanen is more likely. To get Sam you need to be in the top 3. Frankly, I liked him over Ekblad or Bennett. But each team has their own needs.

I wouldn't want to see Garrison go. He has a beast of a shot. Last season was terrible for everybody. But if they want to play Corrado somebody needs to go. Edler, Bieksa and Hamhuis seem to be out of contention. Tanev and Stanton are good. But they are also cheap due to a lack of proven offense. Garrison would be the best strategic move.

However, if we did trade with FLA, we would draft Ekblad. So we are looking at a deal with Buffalo or Edmonton.

Buffalo needs solid vets. Edmonton needs vet D.

Garrison, Hansen & 6th for 3rd & Gagner

[tas]

Technically it'd be Ekblad / Fleury for Kesler + Tanev + Hansen. I mean I get that we already have the 6th, but we used the 10th instead to trade rather than our 6th.

technically its not. you're trading kesler for two picks, and then trading those two picks along with two other assets for the 1st overall. avoiding trading an asset isn't the same as receiving as asset.

pretty simple.

[shiznak]

Who says they are replaceable? You? Give me a break. We are giving up multiple assets for one measly pick. Who says we can't pick a franchise player at 6th? By every account, a player we choose at 6th has the potential to be just as good as any of the top 5.No, guys like Kassian are not replaceable if he becomes the player many hope he will be. I'd rather have Kassian and who we pick at 6th than someone like Reinhart who some of you assume he is a franchise player just because.Yeah, we need to replace the Sedins eventually. One guy alone won't do it, though. You whine about our prospect pool, which Kassian is still a part of, then you turn around and want to give some of them away, along with 6th for one prospect who isn't necessarily any better than a prospect at 6th.

Kassian reminds me a lot like Dustin Penner, often lazy, inconsistent, unmotivated, and takes a ton of unnecessary penalties. The only difference is, Kassian plays more physical and is a lot quicker on his feet. I could see him having the same point productions as Penner, hovering around the 40-50 points mark. People need to stop thinking he'll turn into Bertuzzi or Lucic. When Todd and Milan were at his age, they already had their breakout season. He still young, but I don't see him being "that guy" everyone hopes he will be.

Tanev is one of those defensemen, no one really knows about, aside from Canucks fans. So, I don't see him having much of a trading value. He's reliable in his own zone, but that really where it ends. He could step in into a top 4 role if someone is injured, but realistically he's a 5th or 6th defensemen. There's really nothing special about him, think Murray Baron or Scott Lachance, when they played, the unsung hero, who everyone loves. Stanton could easily replace him.