numb3r 16 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 hours ago, MJDDawg said: Good. Very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just now, Alflives said: Craig Button, this weekend, said Boeser is currently the best player not in the NHL. That combined with a much weaker than recent drafts coming up, and I see Boeser as having a really good chance for the Calder. Button said ONE of the best, let's not forget that there are 29 other teams in the NHL that have very good prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, terrible.dee said: As it was stupid to have Virtanen and McCann up here last year, thus there has been a precedent set by the organization for prematurely graduating top prospects , And BTW this is how you support a point, with evidence Using words like delusional and stupid in a reply doesn't actually prove anything, However it's a good indicator that whoever is using them 1. has no evidence to support their POV 2. Does not possess the cognitive skills necessary to identify and articulate any evidence that might exist I could actually think of a few arguments to support your position.........so that kinda narrows it down, don't it? Virtanen was with the big club because, while he may not have been ready to play every night in the NHL, the major organization in Calgary is poor. Management thought that he would learn a hell of a lot more with the big club than he would playing major junior for Mark French. In the case of Jared McCann, he earned his spot out of training camp. He played very well the early part of the season, then we ran into injuries at center which forced him into a role that he was not ready for. Let's make one thing clear, both TL and JB made it clear that if the AHL was available to 19-year-olds, both Jake and Jared would have been playing there. I strongly disagree that the organization is setting a precedent for prematurely graduating prospects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, numb3r 16 said: Button said ONE of the best, let's not forget that there are 29 other teams in the NHL that have very good prospects. Boeser is going to score 30+ next season, and be over 50 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, numb3r 16 said: Button said ONE of the best, let's not forget that there are 29 other teams in the NHL that have very good prospects. Regardless, that is still very impressive company no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Craig Button, this weekend, said Boeser is currently the best player not in the NHL. That combined with a much weaker than recent drafts coming up, and I see Boeser as having a really good chance for the Calder. Cool! Wasn't suggesting that he wasn't that good, I honestly didn't know as I find most scouting reports to be totally useless, they compare every player to a superstar and then give some unsupported estimation of their chances of making the league!?! I honestly wish we had strength coming at center, because I believe that is the position that wins and loses cups, but I'll take whatever we can get at this point (I STILL think we need another center and that Joulevi could make goods trade bait for one, if his stock is rising then all the better to trade him with, prospect for prospect, D for Center ice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Boeser is going to score 30+ next season, and be over 50 points. Alright Alf......but I'm going to remind you if he doesn't (I'll settle for 20G ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Alflives said: That makes sense. Why give a prospect any hope? Jake, if he is playing really well, should be given opportunity, no? Jake still needs to show consistency. He is still up and down on how he plays games. I bet if he was playing every game the way he played when Benning was watching, he would be getting a call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Well Jake, head up man. Edited February 1, 2017 by Western Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 45 minutes ago, Whale Tail said: Jake still needs to show consistency. He is still up and down on how he plays games. I bet if he was playing every game the way he played when Benning was watching, he would be getting a call up. What time frame do you speak of? Curious if it was the 4-8 game stint 6-8 weeks ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, ReggieBush said: Regardless, that is still very impressive company no? Don't get me wrong, he is a really good prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Boeser is going to score 30+ next season, and be over 50 points. I was expecting 40 but I guess 30 will do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, numb3r 16 said: I was expecting 40 but I guess 30 will do. please. you guys are aiming too low. 50 goals or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Boeser is going to score 30+ next season, and be over 50 points. For the last 5 full NHL seasons, only one rookie has scored 30 goals, and he was 24. Turn your expectations down a notch or 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Zhukini said: For the last 5 full NHL seasons, only one rookie has scored 30 goals, and he was 24. Turn your expectations down a notch or 10 who was he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Tail Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 44 minutes ago, Western Red said: What time frame do you speak of? Curious if it was the 4-8 game stint 6-8 weeks ago? More recent than that. A week ago? Sorry traveling in Hong Kong right now and my sense of time is out of Wack. The one Green said was his best game of the year and I think Benning and others were watching it in person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Fun Fact: The Vancouver Canucks drafted the highest goal scoring rookie of the last 10 years - Michael Grabner. He even beat players like Evgeni Malkin and John Tavares with 34 goals in his rookie year; and only surpassed by Crosby and Ovechkin in the last 20 years. What other Canucks rookie also scored 34 goals in his rookie year? Pavel Bure. Edited February 1, 2017 by HomeBrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 58 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: and my comment get's minused for some reason...cool All good bro, I'll even you out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, The 5th Line said: Can we not bring that up? Yeah thanks To be fair Grabner played like 150 pro games before he finally entered his full rookie season. Perfect example of inconsistency and low hockey IQ. The guy can't get an assist to save his life but he already has 22 goals this year, he only managed 9 goals all of last season and my comment get's minused for some reason...cool Because all you said originally was "Can we not bring that up? Yeah thanks" but way to try to redeem yourself by editing your post and minusing my comment in retaliation. But so sorry if I hurt your ego - hope you don't lose sleep over it. Anyways, further towards my original post, there has only been 31 players ever in the history of the NHL to score 30 or more goals in their rookie season, so yeah its not a common thing to do to say the least and highly unlikely to happen in the future unless drafting a Matthews or Laine type player. Maybe if Boeser had a Henrik in his prime feeding him passes all season long, but we don't have a play maker currently to do that these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Alflives said: I think both Boeser and Juiolevi are on our team next season. I also believe Boeser wins the Calder. Kyle Connor DOMINATED the NCAA last year and started the season in the NHL this yr, then played himself down the the AHL. I'm sure he'll be great player one day but it'll take a bit of time. Boeser is on the right track and has a shot at the Calder but let's not get carried away here and get disappointed when he can't make an instant impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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