spook007 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I think the line up is ok for now. I believe Benning will see what they can get out of the current players before re-shaping the squad. Too many questions regarding the existing squads hunger and desire. If Sedins, Burrows, Hansen etc. bounces back big time, the squad may only be a few tweaks away from contending again. Alternatively it would be foolish to buy supporting players to fill in the blanks if the original players doesn't bounce back and are to be traded.. Also letting the youngsters show their stuff in the AHL first would be good for their development... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucks-4-Life Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 OP your lineup looks good. However, I think they will run Matthias as 3C and put Vey on his wing to start the season. Matthias obviously has more experience taking draws in the NHL. What concerns me are the PP units. After watching Bonino's goals from last year, I think he would do great with the Sedins on the 1st unit. Problem is, the 2nd unit looks quite weak: Burrows/Kassian - Matthias/Vey - Vrbata All of the lineups everyone have been posting is assuming Kassian is ready for a top 6 role. I really hope he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Shawn Matthias is not going to be on the 4th line. He REQUESTED a trade out of Florida because he was unhappy with his playing time. Which forward ahead of him is he better than? He can earn a better spot if he has an issue with his role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerEpic5 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sedin/Sedin/Vrbata Burrows/Bonino/Kassian Higgins/Matthias/Vey Zalewski/Richardson/Dorsett Sestito Hamhuis/Tanev Edler/Bieksa Sbisa/Corrado Stanton Miller Lack (Markstrom) PP UNIT: PP UNIT 2: Sedin/Sedin/Bonino Higgins/Matthias/Kassian Hamhuis/Vrbata Corrado/Edler PK UNIT: PK UNIT 2: Richardson/Burrows Matthias/Vey Hamhuis/Tanev Sbisa/Bieksa I don't think this is 100% right but with Vey now, I think it this might be our line up. PP AND PK... I just added that there. Probably not right at all but I'd be looking forward to this kind of PP and PK. It's great we got Vey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmode33 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sedin/Sedin/Vrbata Burrows/Bonino/Kassian Higgins/Matthias/Vey Zalewski/Richardson/Dorsett Sestito Hamhuis/Tanev Edler/Bieksa Sbisa/Corrado Stanton Miller Lack (Markstrom) PP UNIT: PP UNIT 2: Sedin/Sedin/Bonino Higgins/Bonino/Kassian Hamhuis/Vrbata Corrado/Edler PK UNIT: PK UNIT 2: Richardson/Burrows Matthias/Vey Hamhuis/Tanev Sbisa/Bieksa I don't think this is 100% right but with Vey now, I think it this might be our line up. PP AND PK... I just added that there. Probably not right at all but I'd be looking forward to this kind of PP and PK. It's great we got Vey. Ya you are missing Weber who just signed and is probably our 6th defenseman over Corrado, as well as you have Bonino on Both PP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRow Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Honestly I see it as 2 border line second lines which isn't that bad. Roster looks good if you ask me. I'm excited that we won't be tanking and can possibly compete for a playoff spot. Hopefully we deal a goalie in a package that lands us a top 6 forward. Then we would be extremely competitive. Still upset we didn't re up Santo though. Higgins, Vey, and Hansen isn't anywhere near 2nd line material. Vey, Higgins and Matthias is an ideal third line in my opinion. But Hansen's time in top 6 has proven over and over to be the wrong place for him and management should know this by now. He's a guy that should have been shipped out in a package a long time ago. It's no secret this team lacks a legit 2nd line centre and the fact Benning believes Bonino will be that spot is absurd and will back fire quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 No second line. We desperately need a real top 6 winger, hopefully it will be addressed through a trade at the end of the prospect camp. Perron, Ladd, Kane... Still way too many grinders. Like the D-corps tho. (Huge Weber fan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 As for a lineup: Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Burrows-Bonino-Kassian Higgins-Vey-Hansen Matthias-Richardson-Dorsett Lain, Sestito Hamhuis-Tanev Stanton-Bieksa Sbisa-Corrado Edler Miller Lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sedin - Sedin - Vrbata Burrows - Bonino - Kassian Higgins - Matthias - Hansen Sestito - Richardson - Dorsett Jeffrey Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Tanev Stanton - Weber Sbisa Miller Lack Shinkaruk - O'Reilly - Vey Zalewski - Gaunce - Jensen Fox - Friesen - Grenier Kenins - Lain - De Fazio/Archibald Mallet Kennedy Tommernes - Corrado Biega - Sanguinetti Andersson - McEneny Blain Lafranchise Eriksson Cannata Remember that we will experience injuries throught the season, there is now plenty of depth for both the Canucks and the Comets to weather the storm. As usual, we will see many callups and different combinations this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 As for a lineup: Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Burrows-Bonino-Kassian Higgins-Vey-Hansen Matthias-Richardson-Dorsett Lain, Sestito Hamhuis-Tanev Stanton-Bieksa Sbisa-Corrado Edler Miller Lack Unfortunately Edler will be playing in a top 4 role. Also I would switch Matthias and Hansen. A part of the reason why Matthias asked for a trade was due to playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Unfortunately Edler will be playing in a top 4 role. Also I would switch Matthias and Hansen. Apart of the reason why Matthias asked for a trade was due to playing time. Edler's going to find himself in the press box if he keeps up his play from the last 2 seasons. He's clearly worse than Hamhuis and Stanton, Sbisa actually has the chance of improving at his age, and none of them can play the right side. Unless Edler somehow grows a brain and learns how to play NHL caliber defense, he sure as hell won't be in the top 4 playing for a new coach. As for Hansen, I think he rebounds from last year, and we certainly need some speed in the lineup. That 4th line will get plenty of minutes anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I'm hoping a couple of the new guys are stand-outs during camp/preseason and they play their way into higher roles that expected. I'd love to see Vey show chemistry with Bonino and have them work as a tandem on the de facto 2nd line (with Kassian hopefully). I'd really like to see Gaunce surprise people and earn as shot at centering a 3A/3B line (I'm expecting big things from him this season--and felt this way long before his strong showing at the recent summer development camp). Finally, I hope that Sanguinetti has a big preseason and earns a spot partnering with Edler (and fills vacant PMD/PPQB role). The odds aren't great of all this happening, but if it worked out, the lineup would be as follows: Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Bonino-Vey-Kassian (Bonino and Vey tandem at centre and switch for strong-side draws) Matthias-Richardson-Higgins Burrows-Gaunce-Hansen Dorsett (Sestito) Hamhuis-Tanev Edler-Sanguinetti Sbisa-Bieksa Stanton (Weber) Miller Lack (Markstrom) Players appearing in brackets might be demoted/waived/traded (as needed to make space on roster). If everyone actually played to a level that justified their place in the lineup (as currently listed--ie: Vey, Sanguinetti), this would be a very balanced team with lots of options. That all said, I expect a more conventional lineup will be much more likely for the season opener (similar to many of those already posted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Now that Linden Vey has officially accepted his Qualifying Offer, this is how our team looks: CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTERCapGeek Armchair GM RosterFORWARDSDaniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Radim Vrbata ($5.000m) Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) / Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Zack Kassian ($1.750m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Linden Vey ($0.735m) / Jannik Hansen ($2.500m) Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m) Tom Sestito ($0.750m) / DEFENSEMENAlexander Edler ($5.000m) / Chris Tanev ($2.000m) Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) Luca Sbisa ($2.175m) / Yannick Weber ($0.850m) Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) / GOALTENDERSRyan Miller ($6.000m) Jacob Markstrom ($1.200m) Eddie Lack ($1.150m) BUYOUTSDavid Booth ($0.000m) Keith Ballard ($0.000m) RETAINED SALARIES (1.16% of upper limit)Roberto Luongo ($0.800m—15.00%) BONUS OVERAGE$0------CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)(estimations for 2014-15)SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,993,333; BONUSES: $0CAP SPACE (23-man roster) $2,006,667 <<EDIT: MISSED TOTAL CAP SPACE DURING COPY PASTE Discussion Points: 1) Where does this roster rank in the League, Western Conference, and Pacific Division? 2) We have 3 goalies and a full roster. Do you think we keep all 3? How do you see our roster changing before opening night? 3) Do we lack the youth we were promised to be injected in this lineup? Feel free to discuss other topics I may have missed. I would tend to agree with the lineup as drawn up by Beastmode33. The only exceptions being one of the three goalies needs to be moved out (demoted to Comets, or traded), and I would rank Stanton ahead of Weber on the back end. On paper, the forward lines look like they are going to be a fast, up-tempo group...a group that can play a puck possession, fast forechecking, good on transition type of game, which is exactly as JB/TL/WD have stated what they want the team to be. As a group, it's lacking size...only Kassian, Higgins, Matthias, and Sestito top out over 200, and Higgins doesn't play a "heavy" game. We could use a few more big/skilled guys up front, so maybe this is where a Brendan Gaunce, Bo Horvat, Nik Jensen and Mike Zalewski gets a long look. If any of these young, bigger kids can unseat Burrows, Hansen, and Richardson, I'll be overjoyed (we get younger and bigger, and arguably more skilled). I still see our defence group as not having a real identity...it's not lightning quick like the 'Hawks...it lacks the size, grit and skill of the Kings...but on paper, it doesn't look that bad. But, I can't really give a good description of our d-men. Can someone help me with this one? I think we still need to add skilled size upfront, one more bonafide top six goal scorer, a smooth skating puck moving d-man, and a big, tough as nails, mean, ornery defenceman to round out the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks35 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Now that Linden Vey has officially accepted his Qualifying Offer, this is how our team looks: CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTERCapGeek Armchair GM RosterFORWARDSDaniel Sedin ($7.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($7.000m) / Radim Vrbata ($5.000m) Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m) / Nick Bonino ($1.900m) / Zack Kassian ($1.750m) Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Linden Vey ($0.735m) / Jannik Hansen ($2.500m) Shawn Matthias ($1.750m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m) This team is asking for too much of a push from the players... If I recall reading correctly Vey had trouble even staying in the Kings lineup (now I know that was a championship team) and asking him to play 3rd line role which really should be filled by Bonino who is another player I feel is being asked for something he has not proven he can handle. Plus I don't see much youth in this lineup, so make trades to make room for prospects and acquire a legit 2nd line center or acquire a winger like Evander Kane (not saying it has to be Kane) with Bonino that can make his job easier... What our lineup should look like: Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata Burr-_______ -Jensen Horvat-Bonino-Kassian Richardson-Matthias-Dorsett Hammer-Juice Edler-Tanev Sbisa-Weber Miller Lack Trade: Markstrom+ Hansen+ Higgins+ B Prospect (NOT Horvat, Shinkaruk, Virtanen, McCaan or Gaunce) for ________ Feel free to insert a player you think could take the 2C role and if you think it's a fair trade. Otherwise GM JB and Linden are taking a BIG gamble with a lineup that I feel is bound to just miss the playoffs by one or two spots which sucks because it's right in between the 1st overall pick and Stanley Cup. I'd much rather be the LA Kings OR the Florida Panthers than right in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Which forward ahead of him is he better than? He can earn a better spot if he has an issue with his role. In the lock out shortened season he was on pace for 23 goals with Florida (had 14 in 48 games). How many players in our bottom 6 have that potential? Also, his 7 points in 18 games with us put him on pace for 31.8 points over a season. Taking into consideration it was a new team, which was playing horribly, in a new system. It is clear his point total will only rise. I don't any 4th liners in the league who can put up 30-40 points. Skill wise he is ahead of: Sestito Richardson Dorsett Hansen (potentially - about even at this point) He was a 2nd round pick by the WINGS. That speaks volumes. Also won gold with Canada at the WJHC. Keep in mind he is still only 26. Not sure why so many people on this board peg him as a 4th liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themcdeal Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sedin - Sedin - Burrow Higgins - Bonino - Vrbata Mathias - Vey - Kassian Sesito - Richardson - Hansen Doresett Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Tanev Sbisa Stanton Weber Miller/Lack - Shinkaurk, Jensen, Gaunce could use a year in the AHL. No point of rushing them -let burrows have another go with them early on and spread the wealth on the team. He's a 3rd liner w/o them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 In the lock out shortened season he was on pace for 23 goals with Florida (had 14 in 48 games). How many players in our bottom 6 have that potential? Also, his 7 points in 18 games with us put him on pace for 31.8 points over a season. Taking into consideration it was a new team, which was playing horribly, in a new system. It is clear his point total will only rise. I don't any 4th liners in the league who can put up 30-40 points. Skill wise he is ahead of: Sestito Richardson Dorsett Hansen (potentially - about even at this point) He was a 2nd round pick by the WINGS. That speaks volumes. Also won gold with Canada at the WJHC. Keep in mind he is still only 26. Not sure why so many people on this board peg him as a 4th liner. Yeah but we have a lot of guys who are very slightly better IMO. Nothing wrong with putting him on the 4th line and having a GOOD 4th line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bohonos76 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I don't think JB is done yet.... we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah but we have a lot of guys who are very slightly better IMO. Nothing wrong with putting him on the 4th line and having a GOOD 4th line. IMO Hansen is better suited on the 4th line. Matthias to me is better than Hansen and can play C which makes him a lot more valuable as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyShackleford Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sedins-Vrbata Burrows-Bonino-Kassian Higgins-Matthias-Hansen Sestito-Richardson-Dorsett (Vey) Hamuis-Bieska Edler-Tanev Sbisa-Weber (Stanton) Miller Lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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