babych Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 But we also cannot treat people equally. We can respect their rights as inidividuals, but in true equalism, people must be equal, and they clearly aren't, at least not in the broad spectrum indicated in your op. Maybe a vague social equality is being referred to, but I think we already have that. Bang on. I think the end goal is that are people are treated fairly, which may or may not involve treating them equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Strangelove Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Okay, so I want to hear your guys thoughts on this. I know a lot of people like feminism. And feminism is good, it's bringing equality for women. However, there are also a lot of people that dislike feminism, because of the judgmental attitude many feminists have toward not just male chauvinists, but men in general. Both sides have merit. However, I'd like to introduce a new thought: equalism. Basically, seeing people's differences, but treating all people as equal in spite of them (gender, age, religion, race, sexual orientation, disabilities, looks, etc.). It takes the root of what feminism is, and expands it. And it's highly unlikely that it could ever be corrupted. Thoughts? That doesn't even happen on this forum its a good idea in theory but not feasible in reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 There are always going to be people who are willing to subjugate and dominate people based on any difference they can find whether it be gender, race, religion, belief or action. The concept you are mentioning goes back thousands of years to the birth of civilization and has been continually corrupted since. Equality is a constant battle that will not cease in our lifetimes. For example. This is still garners laughs...now go make me a sandwich. Suck it up Cupcake and Man Up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherwise Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 maybe if people treated others like they wanted to be treated the world would be a better place. When I say this I don't just mean having manners but seriously thinking about how you would like to be treated in a certain situation. I guess having compassion, empathy and actually listening and trying to understand. It's not only between genders but also between all other things that cause divison, we are more a like than we are different. It would also be great if people would judge others on their actions and actual abilities not just what is assumed. I don't think equality is best term to describe this maybe fair would be better but I don't think it's on point either. I've also herd someone say the wanted equity, because it is powerful rather than passive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 maybe if people treated others like they wanted to be treated the world would be a better place. When I say this I don't just mean having manners but seriously thinking about how you would like to be treated in a certain situation. I guess having compassion, empathy and actually listening and trying to understand. It's not only between genders but also between all other things that cause divison, we are more a like than we are different. It would also be great if people would judge others on their actions and actual abilities not just what is assumed. I don't think equality is best term to describe this maybe fair would be better but I don't think it's on point either. I've also herd someone say the wanted equity, because it is powerful rather than passive. Although this is great, it contradicts itself. Lending yourself to the thought that we are all alike leads to stereotyping. If you try to judge people on actions and abilities, you'll find that most people aren't alike. A better way is to view people as human: unique, intelligent creatures who all have failures and need to be loved unconditionally. We screw up. We make mistakes. We do things other people don't like or believe is right. However, we still need love, it's a primary human need. We are created to be unique, but to find common bonds and build communities with people as well. If you want a way to put it: Just love people. Be joyful. Be peaceful. Be patient with people. Be kind. Be good to other people. Be loyal to people. Be gentle, and have self-control. If you do this, it's better than any feminism or equalism or politically-correctness could ever do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 There are always going to be people who are willing to subjugate and dominate people based on any difference they can find whether it be gender, race, religion, belief or action. The concept you are mentioning goes back thousands of years to the birth of civilization and has been continually corrupted since. Equality is a constant battle that will not cease in our lifetimes. For example. This is still garners laughs...now go make me a sandwich. Suck it up Cupcake and Man Up. Man that old guy looks horrible now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusclePharm Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I often come across people who find it difficult to grasp the concept of equal opportunity rather than equal everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 don't talk to me about equality until men get multiple orgasms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Equal rights.. Equal lefts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Be Mr. Rogers to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 don't talk to me about equality until men get multiple orgasms! Wait...women can have orgasms?? This is news to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Wait...women can have orgasms?? This is news to me If you're asking that question you should probably get that checked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Wait...women can have orgasms?? This is news to me better question is, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 better question is, who cares? Better to win every single game 1-0 than lose half of them 5-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 If you want equalism, become a misanthrope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 If you want equalism, become a misanthrope. One way of putting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherwise Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Although this is great, it contradicts itself. Lending yourself to the thought that we are all alike leads to stereotyping. If you try to judge people on actions and abilities, you'll find that most people aren't alike. A better way is to view people as human: unique, intelligent creatures who all have failures and need to be loved unconditionally. We screw up. We make mistakes. We do things other people don't like or believe is right. However, we still need love, it's a primary human need. We are created to be unique, but to find common bonds and build communities with people as well. If you want a way to put it: Just love people. Be joyful. Be peaceful. Be patient with people. Be kind. Be good to other people. Be loyal to people. Be gentle, and have self-control. If you do this, it's better than any feminism or equalism or politically-correctness could ever do. I think I did a bad job at phrasing what I was trying to get across. When I said we are more alike than we are different it was basically what you wrote that is in blue. As for judging people based on their actions and abilities that was more directed to the part about being equal. The only way to know if someone is trustworthy or loyal is by their actions. The only way to know if someone can do a job is by seeing their ablilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLindenIsGod Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité Not a new idea. Equality is good in theory, but it never translates into policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMohammadman Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Equity>Equality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:D Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Men and women aren't equal; Stop trying to make us be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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