WTG Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 8 hours ago, Where's Wellwood said: Chychrun didn't make team Canada's wjc roster? What's with that? We should draft Alex Nylander and try to get William from the Leafs. They can succeed the Sedins. They invited 7 LHD and only 2 RHD to camp. They cut him not because he's bad. But because there are older/more developed players available at LHD. If he was a RHD he would have made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 When we keep winning thats kinda hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 knowing the luck of this franchise. we probably won't win the lottery and we will draft 6th overall again. missing out on drafting a high end impact player. sigh. mediocrity is the curse for this franchise. we are never bad enough when we are bad. and when we are good. we are never Chicago good enough to win Stanley Cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Mathews would be awesome but I would not hate it if the Canucks got a few good defensive stud in the first round. Watching teams like Pittsburgh, one can see the futility of loading up in the front while leaving nothing worthwhile in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 5 hours ago, smokes said: Mathews would be awesome but I would not hate it if the Canucks got a few good defensive stud in the first round. Watching teams like Pittsburgh, one can see the futility of loading up in the front while leaving nothing worthwhile in the back. I understand your point. I say take Matthews if we win the lottery because he is by far the best player in the draft. after that. whatever picks we have left. focus on drafting as many defense man as possible. stack up the dman in the system. because with Matthews. we will have a decent core of forwards on the team. either currently or coming up the pipeline. i would faint if we got both Matthews and Chychrun. that would change the landscape of this franchise almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejejester Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Draft Matthews and use later picks to find your weber, Keith, klingberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 16 minutes ago, jejejester said: Draft Matthews and use later picks to find your weber, Keith, klingberg yep. it's what I've been saying. agree with this approach. it's still possible to find defensive gems in the later rounds. Chara, Keith and even Subban were drafted in the second round and third rounds. I know it doesn't happen often. but it's still possible if Canuck scouts do their homework. and Benning. we are fortunate to have him as a GM in the sense of his eye for talent. I think Benning has drafted more quality players in his brief time here than Gillis' entire time with the Canuck organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: yep. it's what I've been saying. agree with this approach. it's still possible to find defensive gems in the later rounds. Chara, Keith and even Subban were drafted in the second round and third rounds. I know it doesn't happen often. but it's still possible if Canuck scouts do their homework. and Benning. we are fortunate to have him as a GM in the sense of his eye for talent. I think Benning has drafted more quality players in his brief time here than Gillis' entire time with the Canuck organization. Still how can you pass on a Ekblad, Rielly, Jones, Hedman, Ekman-Larsson and those are top 6 picks just in the past 6 years... We can also include Doughty there. I understand the idea, d-men harder to gauge their impact and you can find gems in the later rounds but there's no guarantee either for a forward either. Pick the BPA to a point where it makes sense for your team. For example Edmonton picking Yakupov was ridiculous, even if he actually met expectations they were obviously top heavy in the forward department already would've been far more complete with a Murray pick there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 were not drafting Mathews; If this organization saw the upcoming future holes they would care about a generational talent like Mathews or even a Chychrun, but Benning has shown me early he cares about one thing making the playoffs. The sad truth this puts the Canucks' in the 7-10 range. The problem, here you got team like Montreal struggling to score, and we have a guy named Vrbata who could be used as a decent trade bait but again Benning won't make the moves. I can tell from Benning's early hints that he is going to keep the veterans and go for the 8th place finish. I have my early doubts and at trade deadline if he doesn't make the obvious moves which fans want because they are sick of 1st round exits, it will prove to me Benning is not the guy. The manager we need is a guy with gutts and a guy who is not afraid to ruin this love party the remaining core has going on and you know the guys who need to be moved and replaced with younger talent. Eg a griener who has paid his dues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedinMadness Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 don't worry... the canucks will start winning and barely make the playoffs just to be out in the first round... we won't be getting mathews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 1 minute ago, desiboynux4lifee******* said: were not drafting Mathews; If this organization saw the upcoming future holes they would care about a generational talent like Mathews or even a Chychrun, but Benning has shown me early he cares about one thing making the playoffs. The sad truth this puts the Canucks' in the 7-10 range. The problem, here you got team like Montreal struggling to score, and we have a guy named Vrbata who could be used as a decent trade bait but again Benning won't make the moves. I can tell from Benning's early hints that he is going to keep the veterans and go for the 8th place finish. I have my early doubts and at trade deadline if he doesn't make the obvious moves which fans want because they are sick of 1st round exits, it will prove to me Benning is not the guy. The manager we need is a guy with gutts and a guy who is not afraid to ruin this love party the remaining core has going on and you know the guys who need to be moved and replaced with younger talent. Eg a griener who has paid his dues. Every organization should care about making the playoffs... On Vrbata and Prust my opinion is reserved until the trade deadline. I think if we are on the bubble you gotta pull the trigger on the UFAs to get some future talent back. On tanking, honestly what Buffalo did last year should be penalized by the league. Clearly they were making moves to lose games which doesn't bode well to an organizations image. Matthews / Chychrun may be top elite players but theirs no guarantee that they will help us in the next two years while we have Sedins still. Clearly would still be nice to have either in our system but that doesn't necessarily equate into a stanley cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 11 hours ago, goblix said: Every organization should care about making the playoffs... On Vrbata and Prust my opinion is reserved until the trade deadline. I think if we are on the bubble you gotta pull the trigger on the UFAs to get some future talent back. On tanking, honestly what Buffalo did last year should be penalized by the league. Clearly they were making moves to lose games which doesn't bode well to an organizations image. Matthews / Chychrun may be top elite players but theirs no guarantee that they will help us in the next two years while we have Sedins still. Clearly would still be nice to have either in our system but that doesn't necessarily equate into a stanley cup. I'm not saying tank and lose every game, but I'm saying move the assets that are UFAs atleast. This is the year and Benning said it himself that its a deep draft, so why not get picks? and let's this team makes 6th place by TDL, then what? they don't move Vrbata? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 We're still in playoff contention as of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 If we are going to tank, then trade Sedins, Edler, Hamhuis, and Vrbata, then let the season go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 11 hours ago, VanNuck said: We're still in playoff contention as of today. do you not see how the goaltenders stand on there heads, so much that they are pulling groins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 1 hour ago, desiboynux4lifee******* said: I'm not saying tank and lose every game, but I'm saying move the assets that are UFAs atleast. This is the year and Benning said it himself that its a deep draft, so why not get picks? and let's this team makes 6th place by TDL, then what? they don't move Vrbata? valid concerns, but no point in getting over a tizzy about it until it actually happens. Pretty much blaming someone on something that you think he's going to do but hasn't done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackinthebox Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 3 hours ago, goblix said: Every organization should care about making the playoffs... On Vrbata and Prust my opinion is reserved until the trade deadline. I think if we are on the bubble you gotta pull the trigger on the UFAs to get some future talent back.On tanking, honestly what Buffalo did last year should be penalized by the league. Clearly they were making moves to lose games which doesn't bode well to an organizations image. Matthews / Chychrun may be top elite players but theirs no guarantee that they will help us in the next two years while we have Sedins still. Clearly would still be nice to have either in our system but that doesn't necessarily equate into a stanley cup. The league changed the lottery rules shortly after the draft. Now the first 3 picks are lottery picks. This doesn't necessarily penalize Buffalo directly. But the league may suspect certain teams of tanking last year and are trying to discourage this strategy anyway they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Sedins are the only guys over 30 yrs old I'd keep. Find a way to convince all those no-move no-trade contracts to agree to move. The team will get a high pick and have massive cap space next year. I'd love to see us get Mathews. McDavid Gaudreau Mathews in the same division and in our building the next decade would be magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 14 hours ago, smokes said: Mathews would be awesome but I would not hate it if the Canucks got a few good defensive stud in the first round. Watching teams like Pittsburgh, one can see the futility of loading up in the front while leaving nothing worthwhile in the back. Kind of like a reverse mullet. We should go for Juleovi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 On 12/22/2015 at 3:45 PM, Where's Wellwood said: Chychrun didn't make team Canada's wjc roster? What's with that? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Chychrun American? Or does he have dual citizenship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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