oldnews Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, HerrDrFunk said: I believe Vrbata has a limited NTC so he can tell us which teams he won't go to but can't kibosh any trades to teams not on the list? I could be way wrong though and if I am, I'm sure someone will be happy to correct me. As for Hamhuis, I just can't see him refusing a trade to a contender. Obviously, I have no special insight into him or his motivations but I'm not seeing him squash a trade. That is correct - and his list is 8 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Hamhuis will waive if he wants a run at the Cup. He won't waive if he wants a good contract in the summer. When you look at good players going to a stacked team ready to make a run at the Cup they rarely do well on the new team and end up losing money on next contract. Kaberle is a prime example, he would have made a tonne of money as a UFA, he waved to go to Boston, won a Cup but had an unimpressive playoff. He lost millions on his next contract. Last year Vermette went to Chicago, same thing happened, he was known for being a very good two way C, had a poor showing in Chicago and lost millions on his next contract. The list goes on. If Hammer wants to make money he shouldn't waive. Yandle is another player who won't make as much as he would have had he never been traded out of ARZ. Sather thought of him as a top pair D and paid a ransom for him with Duclair and a 1st + 2nd. Yandle will lose millions on his next contract because he didn't live up to his reputation in NYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, oldnews said: That is correct - and his list is 8 teams. You would think even if Chicago isn't on his list that he would waive to go there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Looks like a deal for Russell is in place. Game time decision tonight. https://twitter.com/NHLFlames/status/702915764949417985 I’ll say LA with the Sutter Calgary connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I don't believe re-signing Hammer was ever in the plan. And I don't think that was a knock on him from management, it's just the realities of rebuilding an aging roster. He's more valuable to another team than he is to us at our arc. Every year, if you don't make roster changes, you get 23 years older on aggregate to your squad. That means to remain the same average age you need to remove 23 years from your roster each season. That's hard to do. Skip a year, like when you're contending, and then you have to do 46 the following year. Now, naturally, this isn't a straight line...but it's true in general principle. If a front office decides, for sake of argument, that the optimum average age is 27 years old with a mix of vets and youth, then the easiest way is to move older players for younger players to make up that ground in a significant chunk rather than whittle away on several player spots. In fact, it's the only real viable way since changing over half your roster each year is impractical. By removing Hammer, even if for a temporary downgrade, allows you to shed 10 of those years at once then you have to do it in our situation. Those are what they call the hard decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeBee51 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 But if Hammer had a handshake agreement to come back here for a similar or reduced contract that wouldn't matter. Forgot the quote..... was WHL rocks post a couple up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, ForsbergTheGreat said: Looks like a deal for Russell is in place. https://twitter.com/NHLFlames/status/702915764949417985 I’ll say LA with the Sutter Calgary connection. All that says is he is a game-time decision. He's been injured (lower body). Nothing there to indicate a trade is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, oldnews said: That is correct - and his list is 8 teams. Cool. Though I just realized that if he wanted to, Vrbata could be a dick and only put contenders on his list of 8. That would hamstring the team pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, HerrDrFunk said: Cool. Though I just realized that if he wanted to, Vrbata could be a dick and only put contenders on his list of 8. That would hamstring the team pretty good. Why? They're likely the only interested parties anyhow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Get Chicago and LA into a bidding war on this. Hammer could be the difference for LA beating the Hawks or getting bounced in the WCF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeBee51 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, HerrDrFunk said: Cool. Though I just realized that if he wanted to, Vrbata could be a dick and only put contenders on his list of 8. That would hamstring the team pretty good. shouldn't matter cause thats whos loading up anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, oldnews said: Why? They're likely the only interested parties anyhow? I have no idea. Just throwing it there because I like the sound of myself typing, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I think Chicago will trade for Boedker rather than Vrbata. Not sure how much truth there is to this rumour. Hamhuis has value, Vrby not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, theminister said: You're better off calling in sick until Tuesday. Gotta face reality. I plan my life around stuff like this. You can afford to do so :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 hamhuis on radio still not asked to waive ntc, but he has prepared himself with his family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnipeshow91 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Vrby, Hammer, 3rd for Pokka, Dano/Hartman, Bickell, 1st. Basically Hammer 3rd for Pokka, 1st and Vrby for Dano/Hartman + Bickell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Yotes said: hamhuis on radio still not asked to waive ntc, but he has prepared himself with his family Sounds to me like he is prepared to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks-12 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 14 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Looks like a deal for Russell is in place. Game time decision tonight. https://twitter.com/NHLFlames/status/702915764949417985 I’ll say LA with the Sutter Calgary connection. LOL thats because of an injury, not because of a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Boudrias said: Sounds to me like he is prepared to go. Yup he does want to win a cup, but team has not approached him. I think they know where he would go and wont approach him till a trade has been completed and just needing his signature for approval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheSnipeshow91 said: Vrby, Hammer, 3rd for Pokka, Dano/Hartman, Bickell, 1st. Basically Hammer 3rd for Pokka, 1st and Vrby for Dano/Hartman + Bickell. that would be highway robbery for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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