Caknuckle Puck Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Who would you choose? personally I like Laine more does anyone else have Laine above Matthews? maybe I'm being stupid but lets have a poll! who would you rather have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Matthews is definitely the better pick. He plays with more maturity and while he may not be a generational player like McDavid, he still should end up being an Elite Center/Franchise player. Also, Matthews is a Center and generally speaking it's harder to find a really good C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 OP: "Lets have a poll!" No poll in the OP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think we already know what the results would be. 1 for Laine, the rest for Matthews. There is not one report I've read that has any expert putting Laine above Matthews. I know little about either player other that the highlights and what I've read, but it looks like Matthews is the obvious choice. Now, if we won the 1st I would not be upset to see us trade down to #2 or #3 if the return was right. The battle between #2 and #3 seems highly contested between the Finns. Though I'd prefer Laine, both are stars in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Personally I'm a bigger fan of Laine over Matthews. I see Matthews being more of a Dustin Brown and Laine being more of a Teemu Selanne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Matthews easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, AriGold said: Personally I'm a bigger fan of Laine over Matthews. I see Matthews being more of a Dustin Brown and Laine being more of a Teemu Selanne. Austin Matthews reminds you of Dustin Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Just now, Canorth said: Austin Matthews reminds you of Dustin Brown? In terms of what his production will be, IMO he will hit 60 as a ceiling and float around there for his career. Dont get me wrong Dustin Brown is effective (used to be) but Laine has more flash and has a higher celing of 80+ IMO. Once again, just my opinion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 31 minutes ago, kloubek said: I think we already know what the results would be. 1 for Laine, the rest for Matthews. There is not one report I've read that has any expert putting Laine above Matthews. I know little about either player other that the highlights and what I've read, but it looks like Matthews is the obvious choice. Now, if we won the 1st I would not be upset to see us trade down to #2 or #3 if the return was right. The battle between #2 and #3 seems highly contested between the Finns. Though I'd prefer Laine, both are stars in the making. Why would you assume that? Laine is #1 for me too. I think he's going to be a jagr-like scorer. I'm not at all sold on Mathews, he looked slightly above average in the world juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I will be happy with either Finn, won't feel like we missed out on Mathews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 i'm hoping for laine, but that mathews kid is alright too....i have visions of them moving laine to centre and playing with virtanen...both Finnish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 1 hour ago, stawns said: Why would you assume that? Laine is #1 for me too. I think he's going to be a jagr-like scorer. I'm not at all sold on Mathews, he looked slightly above average in the world juniors. No kidding? Ok, well I stand corrected. I assumed virtually everyone would be on the Matthews bandwagon, considering: 1) He is the #1 consensus across virtually ALL "experts" to be drafted first overall. 2) He is a center, which someone already mentioned makes him more valuable than a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Matthews is the real deal. I question Laines agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think Matthews will be a very good, even great, player, but I'm a little skeptical with the hype. He certainly gets a lot of buzz, especially from the Crow. Any one of the top 3 and I would be very happy. Wonder if Benning would consider trading down if we get 1st pick. My guess is highly doubtful. The return would have to be incredible. Say we get 1st pick and ARI gets 3rd. Would we trade Matthews to ARI (so he can play in his home-state), in exchange for Domi and ARI's 3rd? We would then also get Puljujarvi, and Horvat and Domi would be reunited. ??? That could be very exciting moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 seems like a Ovechkin or Malkin comparison and between the two I'd take Ovechkin. In this case that would be Laine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: seems like a Ovechkin or Malkin comparison and between the two I'd take Ovechkin. In this case that would be Laine. The only comparable Laine has to ovi is his shot, he's not very fast and has slow foot speed, He also doesn't hit that often, although he is hard to knock off the puck. Ovi's is the opposite, fast, shot, and lays big hits. Ovi is not a comparable to Laine. Laine has the better shot (comparable to ovi's wrister) but that's about it. Matthews also has a shot (comparable to sakic's wrister) Matthews has speed, Matthews has size, Matthews has the IQ, Matthews has compete, Matthews has a 2 way game. Matthews is a center. Matthews is by far the better player. But every year people try to make this debate.. Same thing happened with Eichel and Mcdavid, Ekblad and the Sam's. It's only cause is to create more hype for the draft, but when the 1st team goes up to the podium we all know which player is going to be selected first overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: The only comparable Laine has to ovi is his shot, he's not very fast and has slow foot speed, He also doesn't hit that often although he is hard to knock off the puck. Ovi's is the opposite, fast, shot, and lays big hits. Ovi is not a comparable to Laine. Laine has the better shot (comparable to ovi's wrister) but that's about it. Matthews also has a shot (comparable to sakic's wrister) Matthews has speed, Matthews has size, Matthews has the IQ, Matthews has compete, Matthews has a 2 way game. Matthews is a center. Matthews is by far the better player. I see what you're saying, I am not comparing Laine to Ovi or Matthews to Malkin, just how close Laine and Matthews are in terms of skill with each other and the comparison of Ovechkin vs. Malkin comes to mind. I'd take the player that can put the puck in the net as a top scoring winger vs. a center when our center depth is looking alright. I don't think Matthews is leap and bounds over Laine. I think if the canucks somehow got the first(not going to happen) they would go with Matthews. If I were JB and got the first I would try to trade down to the second and see if whoever holds the second(hopefully Arizona) would bite on a deal. Don't need to ask for the sun and the moon but another draft pick would help with the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Matthews for sure. He might not be at McDavid's level but from what I hear, he is not that much behind McDavid. I thought the debate was between Laine vs Puljujarvi. If we had the #2 overall, which one do we pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Just now, Tre Mac said: I see what you're saying, I am not comparing Laine to Ovi or Matthews to Malkin, just how close Laine and Matthews are in terms of skill with each other and the comparison of Ovechkin vs. Malkin comes to mind. I'd take the player that can put the puck in the net as a top scoring winger vs. a center when our center depth is looking alright. I don't think Matthews is leap and bounds over Laine. I think if the canucks somehow got the first(not going to happen) they would go with Matthews. If I were JB and got the first I would try to trade down to the second and see if whoever holds the second(hopefully Arizona) would bite on a deal. Don't need to ask for the sun and the moon but another draft pick would help with the rebuild. I understand, if we were really going to compare I'd say Laine is more of a Jamie Benn, or a Fransen with a more deadly shot. Big, hard to knock of the puck, good skills, but not the most fleet of foot. Matthews is more Kopitar with a dash of Sakic. Big strong center who is a fast, and has all the tools to be a dynamite offensive player, yet doesn't shy away from the defensive side of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Like another poster said... Matthews is a Centre, therefore you pick him. Centres are rarer and worth more in the league. Teams build around centres. It is reasonable to predict Matthews will be a 1st line centre... who knows if it is a top end one or a below average one. What is absolutely certain is that he would immediately be our best prospect to start replacing Hank in a couple of years. Having said all that, I will not be terribly disappointed if we pick one of the Finns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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