73 Percent Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, Tyndall2 said: Hutton needs to develop a mean streak on the ice. He is playing like Edler has played the last few years.............big body but no punishment to the opponents who are standing in front of the net. Defensemen need a reputation that says, "Come near my net and you will regret it!" He's 183 pounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, Gooseberries said: He's 183 pounds... He's actually 207 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 21 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: He's actually 207 lbs. Yes, he's gained weight, but doesn't he look a bit pudgy? He looks like he needs to lean out maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: He's actually 207 lbs. Db must not be updated. Still you have to know that's not a part of his game. It's like asking dorsett to lead our team in scoring and Baertschi to fight the Matt Martin's of the league. Clearly something has changed for the worst with Hutton. It could certainly be the 24 pounds he added on in that short time. Edited December 19, 2016 by Gooseberries 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 45 minutes ago, Gooseberries said: Db must not be updated. Still you have to know that's not a part of his game. It's like asking dorsett to lead our team in scoring and Baertschi to fight the Matt Martin's of the league. Clearly something has changed for the worst with Hutton. It could certainly be the 24 pounds he added on in that short time. I know. I was just pointing out that fact. Weight could be a variable in his struggles but I wouldn't consider it a major one. I feel Hutton might not be ready to handle top 4 duties quite yet. We've relied on him a lot, perhaps a bit too much. Injuries have kind of forced are hand in that regard though. I see Hutton as more of a, potential, Jake Gardiner type/level of player, which isn't bad. Only problem I could see moving forward is when Juolevi is ready and Brisebois(If he pans out) down the road. We have a lot of depth at LD. Not everyone will pan out but it's a nice problem to have down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: I know. I was just pointing out that fact. Weight could be a variable in his struggles but I wouldn't consider it a major one. I feel Hutton might not be ready to handle top 4 duties quite yet. We've relied on him a lot, perhaps a bit too much. Injuries have kind of forced are hand in that regard though. I see Hutton as more of a, potential, Jake Gardiner type/level of player, which isn't bad. Only problem I could see moving forward is when Juolevi is ready and Brisebois(If he pans out) down the road. We have a lot of depth at LD. Not everyone will pan out but it's a nice problem to have down the road. Hutton for Drouin or Domi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameburn2 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 On 12/7/2016 at 4:27 PM, Alflives said: I keep posting over and over: it's the system. It's VERY passive, so a lot of our guys look slow, because they are standing still. That would explain why some of the games where "we didn't play our system" were so much faster -- e.g., the last game against the Leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, gameburn2 said: That would explain why some of the games where "we didn't play our system" were so much faster -- e.g., the last game against the Leafs. The guys on 1040 were just talking about how our team 3/4 of the games is out played early and falls behind by one or two. They went on to say, our guys start to push the pace, and leave Willie's structure and we start looking a lot faster. I think the guys on the radio, in this one circumstance, are correct. Willie's system is too passive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Clearly, Hutton is going through a bit of a "Sophmore Slump", which I think it was to be expected. I truly see him as a foundational piece for our core in a role much like Bieksa's in his time here. Remember, Patience is a Virtue 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 4 hours ago, ReggieBush said: Clearly, Hutton is going through a bit of a "Sophmore Slump", which I think it was to be expected. I truly see him as a foundational piece for our core in a role much like Bieksa's in his time here. Remember, Patience is a Virtue Indeed. In the pre-season, I expected big things from him, but I have quickly tempered my expectations and am looking more long-term with Hutty. He's still young so I'll be patient with him and hopefully he'll slowly develop into a stud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameburn2 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, Alflives said: The guys on 1040 were just talking about how our team 3/4 of the games is out played early and falls behind by one or two. They went on to say, our guys start to push the pace, and leave Willie's structure and we start looking a lot faster. I think the guys on the radio, in this one circumstance, are correct. Willie's system is too passive. I wonder how we'd look today if they'd hired Trotz instead of WD. Trotz you would pay a bit more but you'd get so much more. The idea you have mentioned before about the "Babcock model" is right on: get the best coach you can find, then tell him he won't be fired for 5 or 10 years. Make him a reliable fixture, a genuine part of the management system. Instead of a poor-man's motivational speaker you can dump when things go bad for a while. I don't see Babcock's Leafs looking "passive" and certainly never slow. Edited December 20, 2016 by gameburn2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, gameburn2 said: I wonder how we'd look today if they'd hired Trotz instead of WD. Trotz you would pay a bit more but you'd get so much more. The idea you have mentioned before about the "Babcock model" is right on: get the best coach you can find, then tell him he won't be fired for 5 or 10 years. Make him a reliable fixture, a genuine part of the management system. Instead of a poor-man's motivational speaker you can dump when things go bad for a while. I don't see Babcock's Leafs looking "passive" and certainly never slow. What are the odds a guy like Trotz, or any experienced coach coveted by several teams, would work for our owner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 20 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: I know. I was just pointing out that fact. Weight could be a variable in his struggles but I wouldn't consider it a major one. I feel Hutton might not be ready to handle top 4 duties quite yet. We've relied on him a lot, perhaps a bit too much. Injuries have kind of forced are hand in that regard though. I see Hutton as more of a, potential, Jake Gardiner type/level of player, which isn't bad. Only problem I could see moving forward is when Juolevi is ready and Brisebois(If he pans out) down the road. We have a lot of depth at LD. Not everyone will pan out but it's a nice problem to have down the road. IMO Hutton's weight gain is a positive even if it is likely impacting his game this year. It is an adjustment as he experiments. I think you are bang on about how quickly he has been pushed up the depth chart. He was playing top pairing, at times, last year with all the injuries suffered. At his age it is all about TOI and he is getting that. Canucks are rebuilding and can comfortably invest the time in Hutton. It is more than foolish when fans get down on a 2nd year pro d-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hutton probably had his most complete game against the Avs. He looked more comfortable being paired with Tryamkin, was aggressive, pinched more often, and created more offence and chances like this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 NEWS 1130 SportsVerified account @NEWS1130Sports 8m8 minutes ago Hearing a microfracture on his hand for #Canucks defenseman Ben Hutton, 6 weeks is the worst case scenario. No surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 With a strong effort tonight Hutton grabbed an assist and jumped into 156th in all-time Canuck scoring. 157. John Wright C 91 13 30 43 156. Ben Hutton D 129 5 38 43 157. Trevor Letowski RW 120 18 24 42 158. Nolan Baumgartner D 99 7 35 42 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 As much as I've been feeling like Hutton has had an off year, he's actually exactly matching last year's point production with a higher +/- rating and more goals! Way to go Hutty! Offensively, he's really turned his season around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 On 12/19/2016 at 10:02 AM, Alflives said: Yes, he's gained weight, but doesn't he look a bit pudgy? He looks like he needs to lean out maybe? It's the mumps... ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Hutton's back! Another strong game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 27 minutes ago, ajhockey said: As much as I've been feeling like Hutton has had an off year, he's actually exactly matching last year's point production with a higher +/- rating and more goals! Way to go Hutty! Offensively, he's really turned his season around. The pairing with Gudbranson was a train wreck for whatever reason, these last couple games though have you seeing what Hutton can be night in night out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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