missioncanucksfan Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, J.R. said: There's some D's and F's I'd probably prefer but I sure wouldn't be upset. The reason I hold that option open is Benning likes to create competition for certain positions. Drafting another stellar netminder in the same spot as he took Demko could be right up Benning's alley. Not much not to like about Oettenger as he did a masterful job for BU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, JamesBlondage said: I would...too many other good prospects will likely still be available at 33. Guys like Nikita Popugaev, Shane Bowers, Henri Jokiharju and Ryan Poehling are much more intriguing for me... Bowers and Poehling will be long gone by the time #33 rolls around. Not saying I'm on the Oettenger train, you are right that there are plenty of talented prospects at 33 but I'm saying don't be surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 29 minutes ago, missioncanucksfan said: Would anyone complain if with the #33 pick, Benning went out and selected Oettenger? Another top G in the system? I wouldn't be mad if we took him. Depends who's still on the board at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) If you want the Canucks to take a goalie, which might make some sense long term, then wait for the CBJ 2nd to do it. Goalies fall far these days... and then you take a look at Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen. Edited May 8, 2017 by theminister 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, theminister said: If you want the Canucks to take a goalie, which might make some sense long term, then wait for the CBJ 2nd to do it. Goalies fall far these days... and then you take a look at Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen. And just for the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 32 minutes ago, missioncanucksfan said: Would anyone complain if with the #33 pick, Benning went out and selected Oettenger? Another top G in the system? Nope not at all. The kid looks like a stud that would be a good backup plan if Demko doesn't pan out. He'd also be a bluechip prospect that could be flipped for another high end prospect at a later date. Hopefully we can snag a high end D prospect at that spot though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Why should we bow to Philly? They can live without a goalie and suffer. I didn't say we should, I'm saying that's what they'd be after, not another d man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 My Mock draft for the first 15 picks 1. New Jersey Devils - Nolan Patrick 2. Philadelphia Flyers - Nico Hischier 3. Dallas Stars - Miro Heiskanen 4. Colorado Avalanche - Gabe Vilardi 5. Vancouver Canucks - Casey Mittlestadt 6. Las Vegas Golden Knights - Cody Glass 7. Arizona Coyotes - Timothy Liljigen 8. Buffalo Sabres - Owen Tippett 9. Detroit Red Wings - Cale Makar 10. Florida Panthers - Martin Necas 11. Los Angeles Kings - Michael Rasmussen 12. Carolina Hurricanes - Elias Pettersson 13. Winnipeg Jets - Jusso Valimaki 14. Tampa Bay Lightning - Klim Kostin 15. New York Islanders - Eeli Tolvanen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, J.R. said: And just for the name Take a drink everytime you fumble it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, theminister said: If you want the Canucks to take a goalie, which might make some sense long term, then wait for the CBJ 2nd to do it. Goalies fall far these days... and then you take a look at Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen. Seriously doubt those guys slide past #35 Take Pittsburgh for the latest example Fleury has fought to keep his perch. If they lose Murray they still have a very promising Tristan Jarry coming up. If we get a pick for Tanev, I would seriously love to get Oettenger or even the Finn at #33. Preferably Oettenger after his freshman year. He can join Utica right after Demko Comes up to Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 23 minutes ago, missioncanucksfan said: Seriously doubt those guys slide past #35 Take Pittsburgh for the latest example Fleury has fought to keep his perch. If they lose Murray they still have a very promising Tristan Jarry coming up. If we get a pick for Tanev, I would seriously love to get Oettenger or even the Finn at #33. Preferably Oettenger after his freshman year. He can join Utica right after Demko Comes up to Canucks. Goalies fall these days though. It's a definite trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz92 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, theminister said: Goalies fall these days though. It's a definite trend. Yeah the only goalie selected in the first round the last 3 drafts was Samsonov, to the Caps one pick before the Canucks took Boeser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, theminister said: If you want the Canucks to take a goalie, which might make some sense long term, then wait for the CBJ 2nd to do it. Goalies fall far these days... and then you take a look at Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen. Oettinger looks dynamite, but no way i pick a goalie at 33, unless we got another 1st round pick through trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, KKnight said: Oettinger looks dynamite, but no way i pick a goalie at 33, unless we got another 1st round pick through trade. I wouldn't even then, if we hold onto the CBJ pick. If Hart can fall to where he did, and I don't think there is a Hart in this draft, then the second or third best goalie is fine. I mean, I'd love to take another good goalie, I really would, but the value can be found in the latter half of the 2nd or early 3rd often. We aren't needing another Demko, we need a guy who could take a little longer but get there. Here is a list of some of the goalies taken relatively high in the last few years: 2016: 48 - Hart 54- Parsons 55 - Gustavsson 59 - Fitzpatrick 63 - Woll 88 - Ingram 2015: 22 - Samsonov 42 - Blackwood 70 - Sandstrom 75 - Vladar 76 - Hill 77 - Montembeault 2014: 34 - MacDonald 36 - Demko 37 - Nedeljokovic 39 - Vanacek 59 - Halverson 78 - Sorokin 2013: 36 - Fucale 44 - Jarry 59 - Comrie 99 - Saros 2012: 19 - Vasilevsky 24 - Subban 31 - Dansk 45 - Stolarz 62 - Korpisalo 75 - Gillies 83 - Murray Plus many more in later rounds. There's value to be had long after the early 2nd round. It's not where I'd like the team to go. I'd rather go after a RH OD like Jokiharju or someone else first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 hours ago, missioncanucksfan said: Would anyone complain if with the #33 pick, Benning went out and selected Oettenger? Another top G in the system? I'd be upset if we took him with our 33rd pick. However, I wouldn't be upset taking a goalie in the 3rd round, especially with us having 2(+) 2nd rounders. As of right now, goaltending is our strongest position. We need to stockpile on forward/defensive depth more than anything and there's going to be players that fall from the 1st round ready to be snatched where we're picking. I'd be happy with any of the following in this order: Kristian Veselainen (W) Joshua Norris (C) Conor Timmins (D) Henri Jokiharju (D) Jaret Anderson-Dolan (W) etc. I'm hoping we could get another 2nd round pick that way we can pick 2 forwards and a defenseman in the 2nd round. 5th overall: Casey Mittlestadt or Cody Glass 33rd overall: Veselainen or Norris 2nd round pick: Conor Timmins 55th overallpick: Anderson-Dolan 3rd round pick: Best available goaltender ?????? Profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 hours ago, missioncanucksfan said: Would anyone complain if with the #33 pick, Benning went out and selected Oettenger? Another top G in the system? Dallas could cap dump one of their goalies for their two 2nds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Odd. said: I'd be upset if we took him with our 33rd pick. However, I wouldn't be upset taking a goalie in the 3rd round, especially with us having 2(+) 2nd rounders. As of right now, goaltending is our strongest position. We need to stockpile on forward/defensive depth more than anything and there's going to be players that fall from the 1st round ready to be snatched where we're picking. I'd be happy with any of the following in this order: Kristian Veselainen (W) Joshua Norris (C) Conor Timmins (D) Henri Jokiharju (D) Jaret Anderson-Dolan (W) etc. I'm hoping we could get another 2nd round pick that way we can pick 2 forwards and a defenseman in the 2nd round. 5th overall: Casey Mittlestadt or Cody Glass 33rd overall: Veselainen or Norris 2nd round pick: Conor Timmins 55th overallpick: Anderson-Dolan 3rd round pick: Best available goaltender ?????? Profit Dude, Vesalainen is going in the top 16-20. Edited May 9, 2017 by theminister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, J.R. said: Dallas could cap dump one of their goalies for their two 2nds.... just don't sign miller and take one of their goalies as a backup and get a pick/prospect. It really is the perfect situation for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, RetroCanuck said: just don't sign miller and take one of their goalies as a backup and get a pick/prospect. It really is the perfect situation for us Agreeedzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, theminister said: Dude, Vesalainen is going in the top 16. ranked 25th on Mckeen's hockey, 27th on Future Considerations, and 30th on ISS hockey. It's not totally out of the reach. And yes I'm aware he's had a good u18 showing and it's history of players who've dominated shooting up the ranks Edited May 9, 2017 by Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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