Phat Fingers Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Pears said: If he gets to free agency that is. I personally think there's a better chance he'll make it to July 1 unlike Stamkos had. And quite frankly, I think we'd have a pretty good shot at him too since we need that top center as previously mentioned. Give him whatever he wants. We can up his salary too, the OP has us resigning the twins at 3 mil a piece, don't do that and we could offer Tavares the most he will see at FA. Gotta give it a real shot. If Tavares did sign here, we will be back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Sounds like the Stamkos thing not too long ago..we all know how that played out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Wouldn't the Islanders trade Tavares before he walked away for nothing? Also, I dont think the already slow non-physical Sedins should make up two thirds of our checking line. They should walk after this contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The Islanders just need to sort out their defensive structure and goaltending (likely solved when Sorokin crosses over). And once their "ice quality" is solved as well, they'll be fine. Basically, they'll pony up to keep Tavares. The only Canadian club that could conceivably go after him is the Canucks (Ottawa doesn't have the internal cap to bid), as Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, and Montreal have their #1 center's already. However, if I'm Tavares and I'm not extending in New York, why would I come to a worse team then the one I'm leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 9 hours ago, orcasgonewild said: I actually agree with you on the Gudbranson thang. He's gonna try to squeeze out a huge amount of dollar. I just hope the canucks don't give him the 5 mil he's asking for and get him to lower. Cuz he hasn't shown much. Id even go to an arbitrator I'd rather Benning admits to his mistake and lets him go, I had such high hopes for this guy before the season. Unfortunately, he hasn't done anything that he was supposed to bring to this team. Possibly deadline deal material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick_fan Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Offer JT same as Toews $10.5 mill/year for 8 years Offer Carey Price $9 mill/year for 7 years Both will be UFA's same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Monty said: The Islanders just need to sort out their defensive structure and goaltending (likely solved when Sorokin crosses over). And once their "ice quality" is solved as well, they'll be fine. Basically, they'll pony up to keep Tavares. The only Canadian club that could conceivably go after him is the Canucks (Ottawa doesn't have the internal cap to bid), as Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, and Montreal have their #1 center's already. However, if I'm Tavares and I'm not extending in New York, why would I come to a worse team then the one I'm leaving? Doesn't the Tavares family have ties to the Lacrosse culture in Vancouver? I think he has family here. Plus, he could be a star in the third largest Canadian market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Doesn't the Tavares family have ties to the Lacrosse culture in Vancouver? I think he has family here. Plus, he could be a star in the third largest Canadian market. Majority of my family and all of my wife's family lives in Vancouver, and we have zero desire to live there. I'm sure Tavares has closer ties in New York at this point than he does in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just now, Monty said: Majority of my family and all of my wife's family lives in Vancouver, and we have zero desire to live there. I'm sure Tavares has closer ties in New York at this point than he does in Vancouver. That's you though Monty, and that's fine for you, but we are discussing Tavares. He's a star player, who is heading to UFA status. He has family in .Vancouver. Vancouver is always voted as the greatest Canadian city, and one of the best cities in the world, especially for those who can afford our lifestyle. I see him choosing Vancouver over other places just for the city, it's location, and it's beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just now, Alflives said: That's you though Monty, and that's fine for you, but we are discussing Tavares. He's a star player, who is heading to UFA status. He has family in .Vancouver. Vancouver is always voted as the greatest Canadian city, and one of the best cities in the world, especially for those who can afford our lifestyle. I see him choosing Vancouver over other places just for the city, it's location, and it's beauty. Lucic had family ties here, too. Far stronger than Tavares, who's family is far closer to him in Ontario. So if adult men (ie: Tavares) made decisions on what was best for their careers, based solely on family proximity, then wouldn't you think that being as close to Ontario would be the best option for him? But again, grown ups don't make decisions for their careers based soley on this now, do they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Monty said: Lucic had family ties here, too. Far stronger than Tavares, who's family is far closer to him in Ontario. So if adult men (ie: Tavares) made decisions on what was best for their careers, based solely on family proximity, then wouldn't you think that being as close to Ontario would be the best option for him? But again, grown ups don't make decisions for their careers based soley on this now, do they. You already pointed out there is no other Canadian city that is a fit for Johnny T. Don't you want us to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 If you were a superstar why would you want to sign with Vancouver. The team has no franchise guys anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just now, Alflives said: You already pointed out there is no other Canadian city that is a fit for Johnny T. Don't you want us to get him? Just because no other Canadian team is a fit, that doesn't mean he should make a stupid decision and settle for a team in complete disarray. He'd be better off going to New Jersey or Arizona before playing in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Monty said: Just because no other Canadian team is a fit, that doesn't mean he should make a stupid decision and settle for a team in complete disarray. He'd be better off going to New Jersey or Arizona before playing in Vancouver. Ya, he most likely stays in Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 12 hours ago, numb3r 16 said: If tavares is willing to take only 7 mil AAV I will be amazed. Ya so would I thats why we offer him 10 million not 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 4 hours ago, ice orca said: Sounds like the Stamkos thing not too long ago..we all know how that played out. No way, this situation is way different. Stamkos was on a good stanely cup contending team and Taveres is not and has been waiting for Snow to build the NYI for far too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 23 minutes ago, Sbriggs said: No way, this situation is way different. Stamkos was on a good stanely cup contending team and Taveres is not and has been waiting for Snow to build the NYI for far too long Just watch how it plays out, he is not coming to the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 6 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: Give him whatever he wants. We can up his salary too, the OP has us resigning the twins at 3 mil a piece, don't do that and we could offer Tavares the most he will see at FA. Gotta give it a real shot. If Tavares did sign here, we will be back on track. Yea. This is all part of a plan Linden and Benning have to go on a run in 2019 IMO. I think the Sedins will take a one year discount to help Benning get the pieces necessary to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 49 minutes ago, Sbriggs said: Ya so would I thats why we offer him 10 million not 7 Chill, before you were here the OP had tavares contact for 7 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 14 hours ago, orcasgonewild said: I actually agree with you on the Gudbranson thang. He's gonna try to squeeze out a huge amount of dollar. I just hope the canucks don't give him the 5 mil he's asking for and get him to lower. Cuz he hasn't shown much. Id even go to an arbitrator Yeah but Jim Benning... He doesn't sign players to atrocious contracts to be fair, but he never gets a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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