PhillipBlunt Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 10:45 PM, Ghostsof1915 said: Actually Hawaii, Alaska, Yukon, BC, Washington, Oregon, California, and Baja California make one new country. Pacifica. Lots of industry, resources, Oil, Sugar, Lumber, LNG, and areas with nice sandy beaches, and fishing. We'll fly Boeing Aircraft, drive Teslas, and have our own constitution and get rid of the fat cat politicians. Hell, you can even make weed legal and tax it. Use the hemp for rope, and clothing. Win-win situation all around. I was thinking Cascadia. Maybe Pacifica Cascadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 10:35 PM, hsedin33 said: http://dailyhive.com/calgary/petition-alberta-to-join-the-united-states-2017 There’s a petition to try to get President Trump to offer Alberta statehood Image: Alberta Flag / Shutterstock DH Calgary StaffFeb 15, 2017 9:56 am631 A petition to ‘save’ Alberta from Canada has been started by American Lhris Ceeson. Ceeson says Alberta’s values side more with those of the values of the United States and that Albertans deserve better than the hatred they receive from the rest of Canada and the Canadian government. So far, the petition has 1,164 votes, saying it only needs 336 more votes for the petition to be sent to President Trump. The Canadian province of Alberta deserves better than the hatred it receives from the rest of Canada and its government. The values of Albertans are more accurately reflected by those of the United States of America. As a state, Alberta would be able to regulate its own healthcare, minimum wage, gun laws, and remain relatively the same should Albertans decide such. Should Albertans decide to secede from Canada, President Trump must take immediate action to offer statehood and annex the province if necessary. Here’s a look at some of the comments from supporters: Image: Change.org petition Image: Change.org petition Straight up Alberta for California, what do you think? Here's a picture of one of the people celebrating shortly after signing the petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Makes sense as Trudeau is about to impose sharia law in this country, wI think that Islamophobia bill which is like the sharia law where you can't blaspheme Allah or Muhammad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, BlackBeard said: Makes sense as Trudeau is about to impose sharia law in this country, wI think that Islamophobia bill which is like the sharia law where you can't blaspheme Allah or Muhammad That bill needs to be struck down now. Unless it's a bill that protects all religion from persecution, it's worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, BlackBeard said: Makes sense as Trudeau is about to impose sharia law in this country, wI think that Islamophobia bill which is like the sharia law where you can't blaspheme Allah or Muhammad I keep seeing this idea being posted but no one put up a link to any actual legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, BlackBeard said: Makes sense as Trudeau is about to impose sharia law in this country, wI think that Islamophobia bill which is like the sharia law where you can't blaspheme Allah or Muhammad Motions, bills, aren't they all just the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 "Don't call me bud... guy.. " The only guy that you should call Buddy Guy is this guy. http://www.buddyguy.net/ American blues guitarist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, gurn said: "Don't call me bud... guy.. " The only guy that you should call Buddy Guy is this guy. http://www.buddyguy.net/ American blues guitarist. South park reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 16/02/2017 at 0:06 AM, gurn said: Alberta has a population of a bit over 4 million people, so what percent of people is it if 2,000 have now signed this petition? Bingo. But it's nice see the ignorant posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 11:06 PM, gurn said: Alberta has a population of a bit over 4 million people, so what percent of people is it if 2,000 have now signed this petition? About the same percent of BCers that would sign the petition, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, BlackBeard said: Makes sense as Trudeau is about to impose sharia law in this country, wI think that Islamophobia bill which is like the sharia law where you can't blaspheme Allah or Muhammad What part of conservative beliefs make you act like a total drama queen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Doesn't Vancouver Island want to be their own Country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Doesn't Vancouver Island want to be their own Country? When I lived on Salt Spring Island they used to refer to themselves as "The republic of SSI." I'm thinking about declaring my property as a separate country. All I have to do is find a doctor, dentist, electrician, farmer, hunter, handyman and a few hundered others to join me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, gurn said: When I lived on Salt Spring Island they used to refer to themselves as "The republic of SSI." I'm thinking about declaring my property as a separate country. All I have to do is find a doctor, dentist, electrician, farmer, hunter, handyman and a few hundered others to join me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Molossia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: That bill needs to be struck down now. Unless it's a bill that protects all religion from persecution, it's worthless. Actually its just a motion, it carries no actual weight re: laws. All it does is recognize the word "islamophobia" and set up a committee to study the issue. The media is playing it up tho as if it is a bill unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 23 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: Actually its just a motion, it carries no actual weight re: laws. All it does is recognize the word "islamophobia" and set up a committee to study the issue. The media is playing it up tho as if it is a bill unfortunately. Fair enough. Thank you for clarifying that. However, it would be nice to see that all religions and phobias against them are included in the wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: Actually its just a motion, it carries no actual weight re: laws. All it does is recognize the word "islamophobia" and set up a committee to study the issue. The media is playing it up tho as if it is a bill unfortunately. Umm it condemns islamophobia not recognize. Phillip is right it should be all religion or no religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 It occurred to me that one of the reasons things like discussions over equalization can get so nasty so fast is that people (like I've done) can be quick to assign blame to the situation. The issue comes up, politicians use it to divide for votes, people start calling for new countries. But the fact is, no province has a say in the actual formula. The system in fact is all determined by the feds: "The provinces are uninvolved in the transfer except to the extent that they may qualify for Equalization payments; provincial governments do not contribute financially to the Equalization program, and each province’s ability to raise tax revenues is unaffected by the transfer. There are no conditions on the use of Equalization payments or the standards that should be achieved by the Equalization-receiving provinces. Instead, the provinces make decisions on behalf of their residents, and they are accountable to voters for the services they provide." (http://www.lop.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/ResearchPublications/2008-20-e.htm) So accusing provinces of doing one thing or anther to each other makes no sense. No province "pays" into it in the sense of losing anything from a provincial budget, and no one can say what a province can do with it once its received. So even if Quebec e.g., wanted more money from Alberta, they have no say in it whatsoever. But none of that stops all of our provincial politicians from using it as a way to create whatever populist wedges they want to, in order to drive up votes and so what if people in Calgary or Vancouver or Montreal dislike each other? So the argument shouldn't be province to province where there's no actual control or say in it, but province to the federal government. But I'm sure the fed's would prefer for people and provinces to fight over it instead Just some food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 @SabreFan1 probably started this to get us fighting. 1200 out of 4 million is nothing. That's probably Americans signing it. You guys know he will really hammer us over this thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just a question Where are/were all of you people when Harper was trying to criminalize any criticism of Israel again? http://www.canadianprogressiveworld.com/2015/05/13/harpers-effort-to-criminalize-legitimate-canadian-criticism-of-israel-is-diabolical/ http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/07/20117206368409551.html http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2015/05/law-law-canadians-criticise-israel-150517073103880.html More than a few of those laws passed legislation. it is in fact illegal to be "anti semetic" or speak out against Israel or delegitamize them. Remarkable that so many people are so outspoken about recognizing yet another useless law within a law (islamophobia instead of just hate speech) but conveniently forget this happened. Looking at you Blackfish, 2 hours ago, BlackBeard said: Makes sense as Trudeau is about to impose sharia law in this country, wI think that Islamophobia bill which is like the sharia law where you can't blaspheme Allah or Muhammad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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