Nuck1991 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 9 hours ago, PassittoBoeser said: Oshie is not protected? Is he a ufa? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 12 hours ago, mll said: Because they get exclusive rights during the expansion window. In free agency a player can talk to every team in the league and there's more competition to sign the player. Free agency starts on 1 July and until then the player's rights belong to his team - no one else can sign him. There's an exception for Vegas during the expansion window where they can try and reach an agreement with unprotected UFAs (if the UFA is protected - they are not authorised to talk to him). The Stars traded for Bishop - he was a UFA this summer. They could have waited until free agency but he would have had more suitors. Can you help me out here as this is the first I've heard of any of this (I guess I didn't pay much attention to all the expansion rules until now). So if Vegas signed Miller, we wouldn't have to lose somebody else? Something tells me I've got my wires crossed, that can't be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmetts Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 13 hours ago, Rick Blight said: To meet the minimum requirements for the 2 forwards and 1 d man to be made available - yes. However, Vegas now has exclusive rights with all UFA's to make a deal. As an example, Vegas could make a deal with Miller and he would count as the 1 player Vancouver would lose. But miller has nmc i thought. Wouldn't it still be in effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I wonder how many first round picks Vegas will land? There was so few trades made. We could see teams using their first round picks to keep Vegas off of certain players. The rumor is that they have 3 in the bag already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, nzan said: Can you help me out here as this is the first I've heard of any of this (I guess I didn't pay much attention to all the expansion rules until now). So if Vegas signed Miller, we wouldn't have to lose somebody else? Something tells me I've got my wires crossed, that can't be right. That's correct. Vegas can now negotiate until Wednesday 21 June 10am ET with any pending RFA and UFAs who have not been protected. If they sign any such player he becomes their selection from that team. 34 minutes ago, Emmetts said: But miller has nmc i thought. Wouldn't it still be in effect? NMCs have been lifted for players who will be UFA this 1 July so that teams don't have to use a protection spot on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Emmetts said: But miller has nmc i thought. Wouldn't it still be in effect? Miller does not have a NMC but I believe he has a NTC. He is a pending UFA that the Canucks did not have on their protected list so Vegas will have exclusive negotiating rights with him for the period of June 17th - 20th. If Vegas were to sign Miller, he would then be the 1 player we would lose in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Emmetts said: But miller has nmc i thought. Wouldn't it still be in effect? Here are the details of Miller's contract. 2016-17 Modified NTC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $1,000,000 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 CLAUSE DETAILS: Lists 5 teams he can be traded to; Source: @realkyper/status/484065799783469056 https://www.capfriendly.com/players/ryan-miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I can't see Vegas wanting Miller. I think Miller will end up in Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Here is the Florida Panthers protected player list for the Expansion Draft. Jonathan Huberdeau Aleksander Barkov Vincent TrocheckNick Bjugstad Aaron Ekblad Keith Yandle Alex Petrovic Mark Pysyk James Reimer Unprotected: Reilly Smith Jussi Jokinen Derek MacKenzie Colton Sceviour Jonathan Marchessault Jason Demers Roberto Luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Here is the Dallas Stars protection list for the Expansion Draft. Jamie Benn Tyler Seguin Jason SpezzaAntoine Roussel Valeri Nichushkin Radek Faksa Brett Ritchie John Klingberg Esa Lindell Stephen Johns Ben Bishop Unprotected: Cody Eakin Curtis McKenzie Adam Cracknell Justin Dowling Dan Hamhuis Greg Pateryn Andrew Bodnarchuk Ludwig Byström Kari Lehtonen Antti Niemi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Here is the expected Edmonton Oilers protection list for the Expansion Draft. Leon Draisaitl Milan Lucic Ryan Nugent-HopkinsJordan Eberle Patrick Maroon Zack Kassian Mark Letestu Adam Larsson Oscar Klefbom Andrej Sekera Cam Talbot Unprotected: Benoît Pouliot Iiro Pakarinen Jujhar Khaira Mark Fayne Griffin Reinhart David Musil Laurent Brossoit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, appleboy said: I can't see Vegas wanting Miller. I think Miller will end up in Arizona. I agree it is highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Damn. The flames gave up on Shinkaruk after one year! Good on Benning for getting us a damn fine player for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 15 hours ago, Adarsh Sant said: Any chance Vegas takes Boucher? He has shown a bit more offensive flare than Gaunce and he is a hell of a lot cheaper than Sbisa Rodin and Dorsett are the other two most likely imo, depending on whom else they select. Out of the five, Boucher is by far the one I'd hope is taken. The Oilers lists are great -- Vegas will actually be doing them a favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Full list: https://www.nhl.com/news/protected-list-for-vegas-golden-knights-nhl-expansion-draft/c-289972722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 49 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Here is the Dallas Stars protection list for the Expansion Draft. Jamie Benn Tyler Seguin Jason SpezzaAntoine Roussel Valeri Nichushkin Radek Faksa Brett Ritchie John Klingberg Esa Lindell Stephen Johns Ben Bishop Unprotected: Cody Eakin Curtis McKenzie Adam Cracknell Justin Dowling Dan Hamhuis Greg Pateryn Andrew Bodnarchuk Ludwig Byström Kari Lehtonen Antti Niemi I find it very intriguing how they are not protecting Eakin. The guy is a fabulous hockey player. Definitely the bo choice option for me if I'm LGK. The fact they they are protecting Nichuskin must say that they are atleast attempting to bring him back? I don't know. I would have that because Nichuskin is such an enigma I would have exposed him and protected Eakin. So much to speculate on these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Here is the Florida Panthers protected player list for the Expansion Draft. Jonathan Huberdeau Aleksander Barkov Vincent TrocheckNick Bjugstad Aaron Ekblad Keith Yandle Alex Petrovic Mark Pysyk Roberto Luongo Unprotected: Reilly Smith Jussi Jokinen Derek MacKenzie Colton Sceviour Jonathan Marchessault Jason Demers James Reimer I'm surprised that the Panthers are exposing Marchessault. Kid just put up 30 goals. They must have a side deal in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/canucks-expansion-draft-protected-list-revealed?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter No surprise Gaunce isn't protected and same with Sbisa. Would've been nice if we got something in return for Pizza Boy. Oh well. The Protection list is what was expected. Players protected are Sedins, Eriksson, Sutter, Bo, Baer, Granny, Edler, Tanev and Guddy with Marky being the netminder protected. I agree with most the list. The loss of Sbisa may hurt but Benning did well signing Holm, Chatfield and extending Pedan. Not a bad list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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theo5789 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, Camel Toe Drag said: I find it very intriguing how they are not protecting Eakin. The guy is a fabulous hockey player. Definitely the bo choice option for me if I'm LGK. The fact they they are protecting Nichuskin must say that they are atleast attempting to bring him back? I don't know. I would have that because Nichuskin is such an enigma I would have exposed him and protected Eakin. So much to speculate on these days! If Nichuskin was left unprotected, I would definitely pick him if I was Vegas simply because you can only have 20 players in the NHL, so you take his rights and try to negotiate him to come over eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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