stawns Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 On 06/09/2017 at 4:05 PM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: It's going to be interesting to see what happens with McEneny. I think management probably has him Utica bound. But Green might have something to say about that. As you noted, he was probably Utica's best D in the second half of last season, and earned much praise from his coach. If McEneny shows well at camp/preseason, I could see Green advocating for him sticking around. And if that's the case, I imagine management will listen to the coach (especially in the first season following a coaching change). I think that management believes that McEneny will get poached on the waiver wire. That's a much, much bigger loss than Corrado was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Prediction: Rodin steals Baertschi's spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 28 minutes ago, stawns said: I think that management believes that McEneny will get poached on the waiver wire. That's a much, much bigger loss than Corrado was. Oh yeah, I'm with you 100% on McEneny being much more valuable than Corrado. And of the 4 waiver eligible Ds sitting "on the bubble" for the 7/8 spots, I'm hoping we keep Wiercioch and McEneny. But I also know management really likes Biega and the Sifers signing in Utica seems to be telegraphing the intention for Biega filling one of the defensive depth spots on the Canucks roster. Not sure where management rank Wiercioch and Pedan. I'm thinking they like Wiercioch enough that they'd prefer to keep him in Vancouver. And it seems like they still have a fair amount of belief in Pedan (not really a sentiment I share but I do concede he has a unique skill set and could be very useful if he can somehow lock down the actual hockey part of the equation). That all said, I'm expecting at least one D to be on IR before opening night, which should hopefully provide enough space to carry McEneny to start the season, regardless of who else management likes for the top-8 Ds. And if he plays well, he could easily lock down the #7 slot and possibly move up the order depending on what opportunities are created by injuries or earned through his performance. I rate McEneny quite high and would love to see him become the "surprise" player who emerges this season (in a similar fashion to Hutton and Stecher in recent years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 24 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: That all said, I'm expecting at least one D to be on IR before opening night, which should hopefully provide enough space to carry McEneny to start the season, regardless of who else management likes for the top-8 Ds. And if he plays well, he could easily lock down the #7 slot and possibly move up the order depending on what opportunities are created by injuries or earned through his performance. I rate McEneny quite high and would love to see him become the "surprise" player who emerges this season (in a similar fashion to Hutton and Stecher in recent years). He may not be "quite" ready now but maybe sufficiently so to have him cycle into the bottom pairing. Will also be interesting to see how well Holm adjusts and if he gains traction in Utica. These would greatly help grease the skids for the inevitable Edler transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: And if he plays well, he could easily lock down the #7 slot and possibly move up the order depending on what opportunities are created by injuries or earned through his performance. I think if this happens, Juolevi might get his 9 games. Two of Wiercioch, Pedan, McEneny and Biega get waived regardless IMO. They'll try to sneak them down the same time as everyone else/Vegas waiving their 80 guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 hours ago, playboi19 said: Prediction: Rodin steals Baertschi's spot And then gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Baerstchi-Horvat-Vanek Sedin-Sedin-Ganger Eriksson-Granlund-Boeser Rodin-Sutter-Dorsett Or Baerstchi-Horvat-Eriksson Sedin-Sedin-Granlund Vanek-Sutter-Ganger Rodin-Burmistrov-Dorsett Or Baerstchi-Horvat-Boeser Sedin-Sedin-Vanek Ganlund-Sutter-Rodin Eriksson-Ganger-Virtanen There is countless other ways the opening lineup could change this season. When's the last time the canucks had this kind of quality in their competition at training camp? I personally think we will see a lineup closest to the last one I posted (Dorsett instead of Virtanen though) with Burmistrov filling in as 13th man and earning minutes when injuries strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 A 3rd line of Eriksson Sutter Virtanen might be effective Sedins Granny Barcheese HoBo Vanek x x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBrashear Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 17 hours ago, playboi19 said: Prediction: Rodin steals Baertschi's spot Yeah sure why not. I mean... Baertschi only had a breakout year last season, scoring 18 goals in 68 games. I'm sure he will show up to camp fat and lazy and let Rodin take his spot. Good prediction, not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaCanuck Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Ok. Camp has started. Hard to call it a prediction if i wait till after games have begun. Rodin Horvat Erickson Sedin Sedin Gagne Baerstchi Granlund Vanek Dorsett Sutter Burmistrov Boucher Edler Stetcher Hutton Tanev DelZotto Gudbranson Weircoch McEneny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Sedin Sedin Boeser Baertshi Bo Granlund Eriksson Sutter Gagner Rodin Burmistrov Vanek Dorsett Edler Stecher Hutton Tanev MDZ Gudbranson Biega Holm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 IF If Boeser and one other impress and stick after camp, what happens? What if Goldy, Boeser and Virtanen are all doing great? What happens to those new UFAs? If it's crowded after camp with kids earning spots, with depth to spare, is there a trade to make or is it just going to be guys buried in the minors? I see: Sedins and Granny Baer Bo Boe Eriksson Sutter Vanek Virtanen Gagner Dorsett leaving Brum, Boucher, Goldy and Rodin which are all great players. And Gaunce, once healthy. That's lots of great, but mediocre players and only a few spots. So does he keep the kids and develop them in the NHL or does he send them down to Utica to develop there? Seems like both places will be full of 2nd line wingers. I find this all interesting and am curious how they choose to handle contracts. This is is the only Canucks camp I can think of with such a roadblock for scoring line options since... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV's Coin Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Sedin Sedin Grandlund Rodin Horvat Erikson Baer Gagner Vanek Upshall Sutter Virtanen Gaunce Burmistrov Edler Stetcher Hutton Tanev Del Zotto Gudbranson Biega McEneny Markstrom Nilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, AV's Coin said: Sedin Sedin Grandlund Rodin Horvat Erikson Baer Gagner Vanek Upshall Sutter Virtanen Gaunce Burmistrov Edler Stetcher Hutton Tanev Del Zotto Gudbranson Biega McEneny Markstrom Nilson Don't know if we have room for Upshall AND Virtanen - I think it's one or the other - and I probably swap Granlund and Gagner but that's basically my starting lineup other than I also have Wiercioch over McEneny on D. Sedin, Sedin, Gagner Rodin, Horvat, Eriksson Baer, Granlund, Vanek Burmistrov, Sutter, Virt/Upshall Gaunce (After 'official' roster is submitted, Gaunce goes on IR and we recall someone as 13th F. Perhaps that's where Upshall and Virt come in to play, Virt gets papered down initially, Upshall becomes 13th.) Edler, Stecher Hutton, Tanev MDZ, Gudbranson Wiercioch, Biega Markstrom Nilsson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/12/2017 at 10:19 PM, playboi19 said: Prediction: Rodin steals Baertschi's spot Fair point! Something's gotta give with the crowded forward group... we gotta make room for Virtanen, Goldobin and Boeser are all ready for prime time! I'm fine taking a 2nd round pick for Baertschi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Virtanen#18 said: Fair point! Something's gotta give with the crowded forward group... we gotta make room for Virtanen, Goldobin and Boeser are all ready for prime time! I'm fine taking a 2nd round pick for Baertschi. Why? Wouldn't be a nice change to acually have quality call ups available when injuries happen rather than the career ahl'ers we've had available the past three seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Sedin Sedin Glodobin (played well together at the end of the year) Baertschi Horvat Granlund (beartscji has chem with both, gives face off options in case of a kick out of the circle Rodin Gagner Eriksson (seems like an ok 3rd line) Burmistrov Sutter Vanek (this line has been used in practice if i am not mistaken. Dorsett in the press box Edler Stecher (top d pair last year) Hutton Tanev (two really solid D) Mdz Gudbranson (used in practice i think) Markstrom Nilsson Boeser goes to utica. Its never a bad thing to start in the ahl. If he shows well then like stecher he will be up in 10 games or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Baggins said: Why? Wouldn't be a nice change to acually have quality call ups available when injuries happen rather than the career ahl'ers we've had available the past three seasons? Baertschi's play is too average. Rodin looked better than him in the preseason last year before he got injured. He looks like he's put on some more muscle this summer as well. We'll thank Tree for gifting us Granlund but Baer isn't what we had hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, playboi19 said: Baertschi's play is too average. Rodin looked better than him in the preseason last year before he got injured. He looks like he's put on some more muscle this summer as well. We'll thank Tree for gifting us Granlund but Baer isn't what we had hoped. A decent 2nd liner? I'd say that's fair return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Just now, J.R. said: A decent 2nd liner? I'd say that's fair return. I would rather have a good 2nd liner than a decent one. I agree that's a good return for a 2nd round pick, but it's not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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